Here's the YT link for the video RE: using Fielder Atmos Essentials, if you can understand him. lol.
Reaper for immersive up-remixing
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I’m keen to give this ago once I get MMH 9 released. I’ll need to renew my Reaper license but that’s not expensive.
Here’s a much better look at positioning Atmos objects using Atmos Composer:
I saw that was available, but have not took a dive into that video yet. Hopefully he speaks (my English). lol. I had a hard time following the other video I found.
One would think since I have both Scot and Irish ancestry I could follow better the other one. Not.
To me is an American accent but it may be a European guy that’s learnt to mimic American like most the non-English speaking world.
Hopefully. I used to work in an environment with people from India, China, Taiwan, Phillipines, Germany, and other cultures. These were all highly educated people, and by and large spoke very understandable English....except my first boss, who was born in Germany. It took me a long time to fully understand him. After a few months with daily interactions, no problem. But new people coming into R&D would often ask me if I understood his speech. lol. Given time we adapt and learn.
I had a boss for a few years that was born in China. I understood him perfectly, though he did not always understand my testing methods and it took me a while to convince him I knew what I was doing.
He would hover over me and question every decision I made for a while. After that, convinced I assume, he hardly ever bothered me unless he needed data for his monthly report.
He left most decisions to me after that on testing and concentrating more on f'ing off and long lunch breaks, before he was eventually fired. I pulled the load, he rode the train. lol. Sad but true.
Understand this is no way critical of Chinese people. What few Chinese and others I worked with from all nationalities were very competent.
anyway that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
I worked on a very large iron ore processing control system upgrade for a plant on the river near Shanghai in the late 90s. The project design team was based in Perth AU, and the Chinese company sent about 20 engineers down to overview what we were doing. All very polite and friendly. Their big cheese couldn’t speak English but I invited about 10 including the chief to my house for an Aussie BBQ and I introduced them to my 5.1 system, and blew their socks off. The chief asked one of his guys in Chinese if I could turn it down!!
They offered me a job back in China but the money was so low it was a Joke. It was a government owned control systems specialist.
At the end of the project design phase it turns out the Chief could speak perfect English. He hid it from us all for about 12 months, and could understand exactly what was said during the project with their engineers embedded within our small team.
They offered me a job back in China but the money was so low it was a Joke. It was a government owned control systems specialist.
At the end of the project design phase it turns out the Chief could speak perfect English. He hid it from us all for about 12 months, and could understand exactly what was said during the project with their engineers embedded within our small team.
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In the US we have many immigrants from south of the border. It's not uncommon that some understand English perfectly, and portend they do not.
Sadly many are working in the fast food joints and whether by design or lack of English language skills seem to only understand numbers. "just give me number 5" works.
Always pisses off my Daughter. Me, I hardly go to any except through the drive through ordering (which is seldom anyway) and hardly run into that situation in this part of Floriduh.
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Hey guys trying to pull us back on topic My current opinion is you don't need any special plugins to mix for Atmos in reaper, at least for "up-remix", because 1) we don't need dynamic objects, and 2) we don't need the ADM BWF file output that the Atmos renderer puts out. Just mix for 9, 12, or 16 channels and use mmh atmos helper to do your encode from there. If you really want some sound to move dynamically you can just automate the REA Surround Panner to do it.
And Speaking of REA Surround Panner, you can use that, on every track, to do your panning/channel assignment, vs. an Atmos panning plugin or whatever. I have now done 3 up-remixes this way and processed them all the way through to Atmos Encoded TrueHD and am quite happy with the results. Using Reaper is very nice, compared to the way I was doing it before in Plogue Bidule, as all the "DAW"ish stuff is there. Solo/Mute on tracks etc. vs. having to build all that into Plogue.
Moving on to Mastering Limiters, I've been using the Unlimited 5.1 VST for years, in Spec, SpecWeb, and SpecScript, and have also used multiple instances on the "main/Master" in immersive mixes, but would prefer a true 9, 12, and 16 channel limiter. It sounds like (pun intended) Reaper has a well respected multi channel limiter, Rea Limit, built in as well. It has both linked and independent channel processing, and I'm going to research which mode or both is recommended for immersive surround.
I'd also be interested in any QQ Pro opinions on the topic.
Here's one video I found on Rea Limit (but just for stereo):
My current opinion is you don't need any special plugins to mix for Atmos in reaper, at least for "up-remix", because 1) we don't need dynamic objects, and 2) we don't need the ADM BWF file output that the Atmos renderer puts out. Just mix for 9, 12, or 16 channels and use mmh atmos helper to do your encode from there. If you really want some sound to move dynamically you can just automate the REA Surround Panner to do it.And Speaking of REA Surround Panner, you can use that, on every track, to do your panning/channel assignment, vs. an Atmos panning plugin or whatever. I have now done 3 up-remixes this way and processed them all the way through to Atmos Encoded TrueHD and am quite happy with the results. Using Reaper is very nice, compared to the way I was doing it before in Plogue Bidule, as all the "DAW"ish stuff is there. Solo/Mute on tracks etc. vs. having to build all that into Plogue.
Moving on to Mastering Limiters, I've been using the Unlimited 5.1 VST for years, in Spec, SpecWeb, and SpecScript, and have also used multiple instances on the "main/Master" in immersive mixes, but would prefer a true 9, 12, and 16 channel limiter. It sounds like (pun intended) Reaper has a well respected multi channel limiter, Rea Limit, built in as well. It has both linked and independent channel processing, and I'm going to research which mode or both is recommended for immersive surround.
I'd also be interested in any QQ Pro opinions on the topic.
Here's one video I found on Rea Limit (but just for stereo):
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