Rhino Quadios - Batch 7 - Speculation

[izgoblin]

WOW! That Rhino CD was waaaaay ahead of its time. "The Three Faces of AI", in 1984?

Agreed. I didn't even know that existed!

 

[Bill_in_Cle]

The Firesign Theatre was Definitely ahead of their time (and much of their stuff is still relevant), but the title is "The Three Faces of AI" as in "Albert"!

Their Quad albums were originally released on Columbia, but maybe someone can license them for release??

 

[esimms86]

The Firesign Theatre was Definitely ahead of their time (and much of their stuff is still relevant), but the title is "The Three Faces of AI" as in "Albert"!

Their Quad albums were originally released on Columbia, but maybe someone can license them for release??

Sony Japan could include them in their 7” series but I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

 

[Uncle Obscure]

Sony Japan could include them in their 7” series but I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

I agree. Their first album, Waiting For The Electrician Or someone Like Him, was released by Columbia in 1967. It, along with one or two other (?) Columbia albums did get the Sony Legacy Remaster CD treatment. Of the original Columbia albums, How many were were produced in quad?

Unrelated and not quad, but you also have their original 1980's Rhino Records stuff, followed in quick succession by the Polygram, Eat Or Be Eaten CD which is largely notable for being an early CD+G disc more than anything else.

May I see your passport...please.

 

[par4ken]

How many were were produced in quad?

Two were released in Quad, "I Think We're All Bozos On This Bus" and "Everything You Know Is Wrong".

 

[quicksrt]

We’ve known for years that when a title starts going for sky high prices, and sells, there’s a certain demand. And we have wished that we could get a re-release. It looks like Billy Cobham’s "Spectrum” will get one. It’ll also be interesting what type mastering will be on it.

I wonder if this new Quadio BluRay will improve on the sound quality over the Audio Fidelity SACD? The AF is pretty damn good.

 

[quicksrt]

I was so excited, woke up to email advertisement from Rhino showing the above, clicked and nothing new, just all the older Quadio releases. Excitement burst.
While I am at it, why the name Rhino?

But you can still be excited that four new ones are coming, and by many accounts they are exciting ones.

King Curtis at Fillmore is one step better.

I also like the King Curtis Fillmore album and even wish it was that rather than the Aretha. But any really good live album is exciting to me in quad.

 

[kenm]

The whole idea with this Rhino series is that it's old Quadraphonic (Quadio) titles, which basically ended in the late 70's; reissued in Hi-Res. digital.

We can hope that more 80's Rock titles will be coming in either 5.1 or Atmos

Wish Rhino could get their hands on all the old discrete Quad master tapes that were used to make the SQ vinyl albums, especially from Columbia/SONY. Hey, who owns those old SQ King Bisquit Flower Hour Quad FM broadcast concert series tapes, a lot of interesting bands there.

 

[Cassetto]

Wish Rhino could get their hands on all the old discrete Quad master tapes that were used to make the SQ vinyl albums, especially from Columbia/SONY. Hey, who owns those old SQ King Bisquit Flower Hour Quad FM broadcast concert series tapes, a lot of interesting bands there.

Dutton Vocalion has done a lot of Columbia/Sony titles and Sony have done some great ones in the 7" pack SACD's (though Sony doesn't license major titles to Dutton). It would be nice to see Sony do something like Rhino is doing with Quadio in the US, UK and EU (those Japanese releases are amazing packages, but pricey). Perhaps through their Legacy imprint. I think Sony license a fair bit to Sundazed, but Sundazed doesn't strike me as likely to embrace quad.

There were some great artists on the SQ King Bisquit Flower Hour shows, but the ones I've heard aren't very amazing sounding. Maybe it was the digital transfers that lacked.

 

[kenm]

Dutton Vocalion has done a lot of Columbia/Sony titles and Sony have done some great ones in the 7" pack SACD's (though Sony doesn't license major titles to Dutton). It would be nice to see Sony do something like Rhino is doing with Quadio in the US, UK and EU (those Japanese releases are amazing packages, but pricey). Perhaps through their Legacy imprint. I think Sony license a fair bit to Sundazed, but Sundazed doesn't strike me as likely to embrace quad.

There were some great artists on the SQ King Bisquit Flower Hour shows, but the ones I've heard aren't very amazing sounding. Maybe it was the digital transfers that lacked.

I got a couple from Vocalion, 2 -Art Garfunkel and the RCA Quad of Broadway musical HAIR, which is amazing in Quad surround, was blown away. Wish Vocalion could get their hands on the RCA Jefferson Airplane QUAD masters used for Volunteers and Worst. Sony JAPAN got 2 amazing packages TOTO and Billy Joel, The Stranger, awesome in surround plus great live recording from 16 multi tracks and tons of goodies, well worth the price. I only had a mediocre SQ decoder in my receiver back then, so I never really got a "nice" quad mix on the FM broadcasts of Bisquit Flower Hours.

 

[J. PUPSTER]

Wish Rhino could get their hands on all the old discrete Quad master tapes that were used to make the SQ vinyl albums, especially from Columbia/SONY. Hey, who owns those old SQ King Bisquit Flower Hour Quad FM broadcast concert series tapes, a lot of interesting bands there.

I'm not sure, I believe Wolfgang's Vault owns a lot of that old music, but it seems like they are harder to find online than they used to be. Could be those tapes are in the hands of some private collectors also There are others here that have more info, I'm pretty sure.

https://www.wolfgangs.com/music/king-biscuit-concerts.html

also, not to be confused with these old SQ LP concerts from the 'BBC Transcription Services'

https://www.discogs.com/search/?typ...t=QUADRAPHONIC&format_exact=Vinyl&decade=1970

Five days

 

[Cassetto]

I got a couple from Vocalion, 2 -Art Garfunkel and the RCA Quad of Broadway musical HAIR, which is amazing in Quad surround, was blown away. Wish Vocalion could get their hands on the RCA Jefferson Airplane QUAD masters used for Volunteers and Worst. Sony JAPAN got 2 amazing packages TOTO and Billy Joel, The Stranger, awesome in surround plus great live recording from 16 multi tracks and tons of goodies, well worth the price. I only had a mediocre SQ decoder in my receiver back then, so I never really got a "nice" quad mix on the FM broadcasts of Bisquit Flower Hours.

Paul Kantner, Grace Slick, Jorma Kaukonen, Jack Casady, and manager Bill Thompson started Grunt Records in 1971 just in time for Jefferson Airplane's Bark. It appears that Grunt owns the masters/rights for everything from "Bark" forward (also including all Starship, Hot Tuna and related acts on the label). Grunt seems to have a good relationship with Rhino, hence the Quadios of Starship and Hot Tuna. But I'm guessing that Grunt -only owns- Bark forward (Bark was the only Grunt era album from Airplane that came out in quad. If Sony owns the 1965-70 masters, then they own all of The Worst Of... compilation as well as Volunteers, so I would not bet on Rhino licensing those quads.

I've heard some transfers from King Biscuit tapes and few are good, none are amazing that I've heard. The series debut broadcast had Blood Sweat & Tears, Manhavishnu Orchestra (who both had good mixes) and Bruce Springsteen, who was alone on stage, so not much need for quad, plus his song was kinda echo-y. I've heard ones from Chicago, Rolling Stones and Alice Cooper one that are decent; and ones from Meatloaf, Aerosmith/Gentle Giant and Mott The Hoople ones that are thin and not release worthy. The complication with them, in general, is that they were seemingly mixed quickly for release, presumably with the expectation that about 2% of listeners would have quad, so quad was probably more of a novelty that a priority. And live music in quad was seeming tricky (obviously, the instruments weren't isolated like they could be in studio recordings, so great discreteness was not acheivable, and the rooms tended to be huge and echo-y).

 

[kenm]

Paul Kantner, Grace Slick, Jorma Kaukonen, Jack Casady, and manager Bill Thompson started Grunt Records in 1971 just in time for Jefferson Airplane's Bark. It appears that Grunt owns the masters/rights for everything from "Bark" forward (also including all Starship, Hot Tuna and related acts on the label). Grunt seems to have a good relationship with Rhino, hence the Quadios of Starship and Hot Tuna. But I'm guessing that Grunt -only owns- Bark forward (Bark was the only Grunt era album from Airplane that came out in quad. If Sony owns the 1965-70 masters, then they own all of The Worst Of... compilation as well as Volunteers, so I would not bet on Rhino licensing those quads.

I've heard some transfers from King Biscuit tapes and few are good, none are amazing that I've heard. The series debut broadcast had Blood Sweat & Tears, Manhavishnu Orchestra (who both had good mixes) and Bruce Springsteen, who was alone on stage, so not much need for quad, plus his song was kinda echo-y. I've heard ones from Chicago, Rolling Stones and Alice Cooper one that are decent; and ones from Meatloaf, Aerosmith/Gentle Giant and Mott The Hoople ones that are thin and not release worthy. The complication with them, in general, is that they were seemingly mixed quickly for release, presumably with the expectation that about 2% of listeners would have quad, so quad was probably more of a novelty that a priority. And live music in quad was seeming tricky (obviously, the instruments weren't isolated like they could be in studio recordings, so great discreteness was not acheivable, and the rooms tended to be huge and echo-y).

Thanks for the info, appreciated. Would LOVE, BARK, in QUAD !

 

[ar surround]

Think about it. 27 pages and over 530 posts of chatter for a lowly amount of just four quadraphonic albums. Obviously, Quad is dead and there is no longer any market for it.