SACD....by the numbers

[mandrix]

I'm unaware of any existing hybrid Blu-rays of any kind, be it Blu-ray/CD or Blu-ray/DVD or Blu-ray/SACD. Have any ever been pressed commercially?

I'm not either. I think he's just saying a CD layer is allowed in the BD spec. Not SACD.

 

[SeeMoreDigital]

I'm unaware of any existing hybrid Blu-rays of any kind, be it Blu-ray/CD or Blu-ray/DVD or Blu-ray/SACD. Have any ever been pressed commercially?

Me neither... And I'm always on the look-out for collecting such disc rarities...

 

[Mr. Afternoon]

I'm unaware of any existing hybrid Blu-rays of any kind, be it Blu-ray/CD or Blu-ray/DVD or Blu-ray/SACD. Have any ever been pressed commercially?

I believe the initial Blu-ray issues of the Bourne Trilogy were hybrid Dual-layer DVD and Dual-Layer Blu-ray on one side of the disc.

It's not a very well-known feature of Blu-ray, that's for sure.

Edit: The Bourne Trilogy were actually flipper discs, apparently.

 

[Mr. Afternoon]

I'm not either. I think he's just saying a CD layer is allowed in the BD spec. Not SACD.

CD and Dual Layer DVD is allowed in a Blu-ray disc under the Hybrid BD part of the Blu-ray spec.

 

[Mr. Afternoon]

The reason Hybrid Blu-ray discs can work without compatibility issues is because the Blu-ray data layers are much closer to the label side of the disc while CD and DVD layers are kinda in the middle. So there's no conflict.

 

[SeeMoreDigital]

The reason Hybrid Blu-ray discs can work without compatibility issues is because the Blu-ray data layers are much closer to the label side of the disc while CD and DVD layers are kinda in the middle. So there's no conflict.

I would love to get my hands on one of these discs for my collection...

 

[Mr. Afternoon]

I would love to get my hands on one of these discs for my collection...

I would love to release on a Hybrid! Unfortunately Blu-ray serves no real purpose unless I run out of space on a DVD or SACD...or so Atmos.

Furthermore, it's certainly more prohibitive in terms of cost.

 

[SeeMoreDigital]

I would love to release on a Hybrid! Unfortunately Blu-ray serves no real purpose unless I run out of space on a DVD or SACD...or so Atmos.

Furthermore, it's certainly more prohibitive in terms of cost.

Indeed, data storage wise there's a huge difference between a single layer DVD and a single layer Blu-ray, which is why I quite liked the idea of authoring to AVCHD.

That being said... As soon as you creep above a single layer DVD's capacity, what's the price difference between a dual layer DVD and a single layer Blu-ray?

 

[Mr. Afternoon]

Indeed, data storage wise there's a huge difference between a single layer DVD and a single layer Blu-ray, which is why I quite liked the idea of authoring to AVCHD.

That being said... As soon as you creep above a single layer DVD's capacity, what's the price difference between a dual layer DVD and a single layer Blu-ray?

I'm afraid I'm not allowed to reveal any specific details. Contract stuff. I will however say that the price differences only apply to really small pressings amounts like mine, as once you go above a certain number it's all virtually the same cost.

 

[kfbkfb]

Re: small pressing amounts - is BD-R a viable option - manufacture on demand?

(a few of my recently purchased DVDs [kinda obscure TV shows and movies] have been on DVD-Rs, strangely, the DVD-Rs are not allowed to use the official DVD logo)


Kirk Bayne

 

[SeeMoreDigital]

Re: small pressing amounts - is BD-R a viable option - manufacture on demand?

I think the most DVD~R's I've done is around 50 or so. It was for a friends show-reel and not long after ImgBurn was officially launched. Nowadays such things are on peoples web site. Also, nowadays nobody even has a disc player

 

[Mr. Afternoon]

Re: small pressing amounts - is BD-R a viable option - manufacture on demand?

(a few of my recently purchased DVDs [kinda obscure TV shows and movies] have been on DVD-Rs, strangely, the DVD-Rs are not allowed to use the official DVD logo)


Kirk Bayne

I can't objectively answer this: I feel very strongly about doing proper pressings when possible. Cost-wise, it can be less or more per unit than a normal BD depending on who you go through. The amount of customization available on a BD-R is usually far less than a pressed disc. Any recordable media is usually for when you need under 300 or 500 units...

 

[mandrix]

Wasn't there a German group at one time doing that with DVDA? That is burn a disc and mail it. Can't remember the site offhand, seems the artists did Quad though...

 

[SeeMoreDigital]

Wasn't there a German group at one time doing that with DVDA? That is burn a disc and mail it. Can't remember the site offhand, seems the artists did Quad though...

You've just reminded me... Many years ago I did some work with a media company that offered links to their content as .iso disc images. This was before PC's had a reliable way to mount disc images and before we had ImgBurn... What a ball-ache!

 

[Bill B]

It's one thing to press discs, but how is the format actually selling? I'm still buying, but I feel like I'm in the minority even among surround enthusiasts. The surround listening community seems to be dividing into two camps -- Atmos v Everyone Else. Obviously SACD is, at best, a 5.1 format so it won't appeal to those looking for or requiring Atmos for it to be worth their ear time.

Don’t forget that we are a subset of the overall SACD buyers. There are many more audiophiles that buy them just for stereo or mono due to their higher fidelity.

 

[SeeMoreDigital]

Don’t forget that we are a subset of the overall SACD buyers. There are many more audiophiles that buy them just for stereo or mono due to their higher fidelity.

At least we are still willing to buy music on discs along with their players... I find it pretty depressing that this decade will most probably be the last decade for us disc lovers...

 

[mandrix]

Dude. lol. My goal is to at least LIVE to the end of this decade. Then I'll take it from there!

 

[4-earredwonder]

And from Japan's Victor Entertainment: Lee Ritenour in RIO [hybrid Stereo SACD]

 

[JediJoker]

And from Japan's Victor Entertainment: Lee Ritenour in RIO [hybrid Stereo SACD]

Not on Discogs. Care to add it, if you own it?

 

[mandrix]

Not on Discogs. Care to add it, if you own it?

The 1979 JVC release is on Discogs, JJ. Not sure about the SACD .