Replacement arrived today and I’m luv’n it. Changed my vote to 10. Thank you Rhino. Drooling already for tomorrow’s Quadio releases.
Look at the images here: https://www.discogs.com/release/29531200-Spinners-SpinnersWhere does it say v2?
But, you posted a photo of the wrong Spinners.Wow, Rhino really came through on this one by providing a replacement for an iconic album which, BTW, wipes even the 2015 SHM~CD Atlantic disc off the map.
SPINNERS rewards the listener with hit after HIT in remarkable 4 channel sonics!
We've waited a long long time [over 50 years] for the rich WEA catalogue to be transferred from those original QUAD masters and now on a state of the art BD~A in 192/24 resolution that time has come! I voted a 10!
SPINNIN' OUT WITH THE SPINNERS!
yes, it arrived the other day although i haven't had a chance to play it yetHas anyone in Europe received the new corrected copy of the Spinner Quadio?
Has anyone in Europe received the new corrected copy of the Spinner Quadio?
yes, it arrived the other day although i haven't had a chance to play it yet
That indeed WAS something that I noticed. Thanks for bringing this to my attention! To be honest, the thing that really bothers me in this quad mix are the backing vocals right behind the listener. I don't know, but something about it just feels off to me. Maybe it's the directly behind bit, or maybe I just wanted more spread or something.I was speaking with Arthur Stoppe recently about this disc, and I asked him about something that's always slightly vexed me about the mix on this album, both in stereo and quad: on several tracks, the lead vocals are a bit off to one side, and the backing vocals are off a bit to the other side, like 11 and 1, or 10 and 2 o'clock on a watch dial, compared to the sort of "typical" way of mixing where the lead vocal would be rock solid at 12 o'clock (phantom center) and then the backing vocals sort of spread equally across the stereo spectrum.
What Arthur had to say was pretty interesting, I thought:
"As far as the vocals being off center in some of those mixes, that was a Joe Tarsia thing. He was always concerned (and maybe a little too worried, if you ask me) about how stereo mixes folded down to mono. His concern was about "center channel buildup" because anything panned to the center would, when a stereo mix was folded down to mono, come up 6 dB compared to anything panned to the left or right. So he'd put the vocals (along with other things normally panned to the center, like the bass and kick drum) somewhat off center. That used to drive me a little crazy, as when I heard those mixes I would always think that the stereo balance was off because the vocals, bass, etc., weren't centered the way they were in just about everyone else's stereo mixes. I didn't see why he wanted to mess up the stereo mixes in that way just because it might improve the balance in the mono mixes a little bit."
It's also interesting to note that while the mid-'90s Rhino remaster of this album (done by Bill Inglot and Dan Hersch) got this right, I listened to a number of greatest hits compilations (sorry I can't remember which now) where they've incorrectly "corrected" the tracks from this album, boosting the volume of either the left or right channel (and thus making the instrumentation in that channel louder than it should be) to force the lead vocals into the 12 o'clock 'phantom center' position when it wasn't intended to be so.
So if you're listening to this in quad (or stereo, like some kind of loser) and it feels like the lead vocal is a bit off to one side, you aren't losing your marbles (well, not in this instance anyway) the mix is functioning as intended, staying faithful to the left-right placements of the original stereo mix.