HiRez Poll Spinners, The - SPINNERS [Blu-Ray Audio]

[RustyM]

Replacement arrived today and I’m luv’n it. Changed my vote to 10. Thank you Rhino. Drooling already for tomorrow’s Quadio releases.

 

[Tres Discrete]

Corrected disc received today:
Music: 10
Mix: 10
Format: 10
Rhino Effort: 10
I guess that makes it a 40!
All kidding aside, this release is like a dream come true for me - the older I get, the more I appreciate classic Soul and R&B

 

[Quad70s]

Mine came on Friday, along with the America Holiday disc.

After noting that both SACD cases were not cracked and that the Spinners disc had the V2 inscription meaning I had the corrected disc, I was ready...

I'm not too fond of "Don't Let The Green Grass Fool You" but the rest of the material is great and it sound great. I was not previously very familiar with this album or the Spinners, although I had been aware of them for a long time, and I've always loved the genre of Philadelphia/Symphonic Soul.

As others have reported, a fair amount of the bass and percussion is directed to the rear channels but I do like the presentation anyway.

 

[dr. simple]

This disc is everything I enjoy about quad and music in general. Great songwriting, great arrangements, great performance, great fidelity, and a great quad mix. Sitting here listening to the corrected version just feels good… Not having had this album prior, I feel like I’m listening to a concert in the way that the first four songs are great and varied but unfamiliar, and then they play a couple hits. After another album track that could’ve been a hit, they end the show with three more hits. It’s a great time to be a multichannel music fan.

 

[bktouchstone]

This is a terrific mix with a strong group of songs that flow well. I gave it an 8 because I keep thinking as I listen that it could use a remix by someone who really knows what they are doing to bring out a bit more lead or backing vocals or a bit more horn here and there. And because I am very picky about bass levels I think the bass needs to be managed better. But running it in the Pure Audio mode which turns off all the room corrections seemed to improve things a lot. Don’t know why that is but sometimes you have to play with things a little even if it’s against your religion like it is for me. Many thanks to the Quadio folks for resurrecting this great album from my teen years!

 

[GOS]

Like the music, the mix is just fine. Overall, to my ears, the fidelity sounds a little soft (not enough sparkle). I'm voting an 8.
Thanks Rhino for sending the corrected disc.

 

[Freedesignfan]

Thanks for the replacement disc Rhino! I already knew the big hits on The Spinners were
great but even the other songs "I Could Never (Repay Your Love)", the
smokin' Don't Let The Green Grass Fool You, and my overall favorite "Ghetto Child"
just really make this a easy vote of 9. Phillipe Wynne was such a master vocalist. And the String
arrangements....Killer!

 

[4-earredwonder]

Wow, Rhino really came through on this one by providing a replacement for an iconic album which, BTW, wipes even the 2015 SHM~CD Atlantic disc off the map.

SPINNERS rewards the listener with hit after HIT in remarkable 4 channel sonics!

We've waited a long long time [over 50 years] for the rich WEA catalogue to be transferred from those original QUAD masters and now on a state of the art BD~A in 192/24 resolution that time has come! I voted a 10!

SPINNIN' OUT WITH THE SPINNERS!

 

[jhw59]

Where does it say v2?

 

[svengaleekie]

Where does it say v2?

Look at the images here: https://www.discogs.com/release/29531200-Spinners-Spinners

 

[ar surround]

A true classic 70s R&B album. All of the songs are excellent. The quality of the non-singles tracks are beyond my expectations. None of the songs ramble on with ad lib singing as found on some other R&B albums...Even the 7 minute I Could Never (Repay Your Love) does not get monotonous. The album is a classic style quad mix as well. I really like the splitting of the vocals between the fronts and rears.

Highly recommended, even for those only mildly interested in R&B. And thank you again Rhino for fixing this product for us.

 

[jefe1]

Plus on my fixed copy they removed those dated mustaches from the guys......

 

[gbaby183]

Wow, Rhino really came through on this one by providing a replacement for an iconic album which, BTW, wipes even the 2015 SHM~CD Atlantic disc off the map.

SPINNERS rewards the listener with hit after HIT in remarkable 4 channel sonics!

We've waited a long long time [over 50 years] for the rich WEA catalogue to be transferred from those original QUAD masters and now on a state of the art BD~A in 192/24 resolution that time has come! I voted a 10!

SPINNIN' OUT WITH THE SPINNERS!

But, you posted a photo of the wrong Spinners.

 

[bgf1973]

Has anyone in Europe received the new corrected copy of the Spinner Quadio?

 

[fredblue]

Has anyone in Europe received the new corrected copy of the Spinner Quadio?

yes, it arrived the other day although i haven't had a chance to play it yet

 

[ar surround]

Has anyone in Europe received the new corrected copy of the Spinner Quadio?

yes, it arrived the other day although i haven't had a chance to play it yet

So ironic that the corrected discs finally start arriving in Europe...and then the last surviving member of the Spinners passes on. I guess his work was done.

 

[key_wiz]

Revised my vote to a “9” with the corrected disc. Great surround mix. Great fidelity.

 

[steelydave]

I was speaking with Arthur Stoppe recently about this disc, and I asked him about something that's always slightly vexed me about the mix on this album, both in stereo and quad: on several tracks, the lead vocals are a bit off to one side, and the backing vocals are off a bit to the other side, like 11 and 1, or 10 and 2 o'clock on a watch dial, compared to the sort of "typical" way of mixing where the lead vocal would be rock solid at 12 o'clock (phantom center) and then the backing vocals sort of spread equally across the stereo spectrum.

What Arthur had to say was pretty interesting, I thought:

"As far as the vocals being off center in some of those mixes, that was a Joe Tarsia thing. He was always concerned (and maybe a little too worried, if you ask me) about how stereo mixes folded down to mono. His concern was about "center channel buildup" because anything panned to the center would, when a stereo mix was folded down to mono, come up 6 dB compared to anything panned to the left or right. So he'd put the vocals (along with other things normally panned to the center, like the bass and kick drum) somewhat off center. That used to drive me a little crazy, as when I heard those mixes I would always think that the stereo balance was off because the vocals, bass, etc., weren't centered the way they were in just about everyone else's stereo mixes. I didn't see why he wanted to mess up the stereo mixes in that way just because it might improve the balance in the mono mixes a little bit."

It's also interesting to note that while the mid-'90s Rhino remaster of this album (done by Bill Inglot and Dan Hersch) got this right, I listened to a number of greatest hits compilations (sorry I can't remember which now) where they've incorrectly "corrected" the tracks from this album, boosting the volume of either the left or right channel (and thus making the instrumentation in that channel louder than it should be) to force the lead vocals into the 12 o'clock 'phantom center' position when it wasn't intended to be so.

So if you're listening to this in quad (or stereo, like some kind of loser) and it feels like the lead vocal is a bit off to one side, you aren't losing your marbles (well, not in this instance anyway) the mix is functioning as intended, staying faithful to the left-right placements of the original stereo mix.

 

[Dynamic Editor]

I was speaking with Arthur Stoppe recently about this disc, and I asked him about something that's always slightly vexed me about the mix on this album, both in stereo and quad: on several tracks, the lead vocals are a bit off to one side, and the backing vocals are off a bit to the other side, like 11 and 1, or 10 and 2 o'clock on a watch dial, compared to the sort of "typical" way of mixing where the lead vocal would be rock solid at 12 o'clock (phantom center) and then the backing vocals sort of spread equally across the stereo spectrum.

What Arthur had to say was pretty interesting, I thought:

"As far as the vocals being off center in some of those mixes, that was a Joe Tarsia thing. He was always concerned (and maybe a little too worried, if you ask me) about how stereo mixes folded down to mono. His concern was about "center channel buildup" because anything panned to the center would, when a stereo mix was folded down to mono, come up 6 dB compared to anything panned to the left or right. So he'd put the vocals (along with other things normally panned to the center, like the bass and kick drum) somewhat off center. That used to drive me a little crazy, as when I heard those mixes I would always think that the stereo balance was off because the vocals, bass, etc., weren't centered the way they were in just about everyone else's stereo mixes. I didn't see why he wanted to mess up the stereo mixes in that way just because it might improve the balance in the mono mixes a little bit."

It's also interesting to note that while the mid-'90s Rhino remaster of this album (done by Bill Inglot and Dan Hersch) got this right, I listened to a number of greatest hits compilations (sorry I can't remember which now) where they've incorrectly "corrected" the tracks from this album, boosting the volume of either the left or right channel (and thus making the instrumentation in that channel louder than it should be) to force the lead vocals into the 12 o'clock 'phantom center' position when it wasn't intended to be so.

So if you're listening to this in quad (or stereo, like some kind of loser) and it feels like the lead vocal is a bit off to one side, you aren't losing your marbles (well, not in this instance anyway) the mix is functioning as intended, staying faithful to the left-right placements of the original stereo mix.

That indeed WAS something that I noticed. Thanks for bringing this to my attention! To be honest, the thing that really bothers me in this quad mix are the backing vocals right behind the listener. I don't know, but something about it just feels off to me. Maybe it's the directly behind bit, or maybe I just wanted more spread or something.