Suggestions for Audio Fidelity Multichannel SACD Releases

[steelydave]

MFSL put out Bob Dylan's 'Desire' on SACD in 2013, and they have both 'Nashville Skyline' and 'Planet Waves' in their announced but not released queue so they should be out sometime between next month and whenever the apocalypse occurs.

That means all the Dylan quad mixes are tied up with MFSL as stereo-only releases as far as I know, so probably set your sights elsewhere chaps.

 

[bmoura]

MFSL put out Bob Dylan's 'Desire' on SACD in 2013, and they have both 'Nashville Skyline' and 'Planet Waves' in their announced but not released queue so they should be out sometime between next month and whenever the apocalypse occurs.

That means all the Dylan quad mixes are tied up with MFSL as stereo-only releases as far as I know, so probably set your sights elsewhere chaps.

It means that some of the Dylan Surround Mixes have been licensed to MoFi. Audio Fidelity will have to look closer to see what else might be licensed for SACD.

Here's the preorder link for the upcoming Planet Waves SACD from MoFi:
http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/95128/Bob_Dylan-Planet_Waves-Hybrid_Stereo_SACD

 

[quicksrt]

Tell me in your opinion, if a title has been reissued in Stereo, but the Quad mix hasn't, could it still be possible for a label to agree to a reissue in order for the latter to be issued for the first time?

You didn't ask me I know....

But it does appear to matter how long ago it was that the stereo SACD was issued. If it was one or two years ago, I would think it would be very risky to issue it again so soon after. If it has been 4 to 5 years or more, and a surround mix can be included then I would think it's usually fine.

I used to think that when a box set comes out, or a super-duper-disc with bonus tracks is released, then the title has been done and that is that. This is simply not the case. Every 5, 8, or 10 years, a new generation of listeners comes along and is ready for their very own issue of a given album. Especially if the title was a hot seller last time around, another round seems to do just fine. I thought everyone and their mother already owned Aqualung, and owned it in several formats. Not true, these older issues are sent out into the market, and most are trashed into VG or worse condition within a year or two. Or lost.

So the idea of marketing a new version of a recording for a new buying generation is rock solid. Often the new generation wants their very own issue of a classic album. Five years to a 22 or 26 year old is a long time ago. Ten years ago is their dad's era, and not even the modern world to them.

So for the "evergreens" like Dylan and other albums, a reissue four to six years later is not out of the question. Even a couple of years later is doable if the title is still hot, and a surround layer or "fresh" bonus tracks are included.

On the other hand, music sales are lower than ever, all reissues will of course now sell few copies than in the golden age.

 

[fredblue]

Here's the preorder link for the upcoming Planet Waves SACD from MoFi:
http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/95128/Bob_Dylan-Planet_Waves-Hybrid_Stereo_SACD

Well that's one SACD I (mercifully) won't be buying.. for as long as they keep Quadblocking us they can go (Mo)Fo themselves.

 

[JonUrban]

You wanna kill the AF quad series dead in its' tracks?---Put out Gilbert O'Sullivan. Sheesh.

Seems there's only one member firmly in the Gilbert O'Sullivan supporter group. Guess he's alone, again naturally.

 

[cupboy]

Seems there's only one member firmly in the Gilbert O'Sullivan supporter group. Guess he's alone, again naturally.

Or hooking up with Judy Collins.

 

[Clint Eastwood]

Seems there's only one member firmly in the Gilbert O'Sullivan supporter group. Guess he's alone, again naturally.

I loved that one Jon...I can't make up my mind if your post is better than this one..no wonder there are so many stand up comedians out of work...props to you both

 

[Jim the Oldbie]

Or hooking up with Judy Collins.

Or a reasonable facsimile:



-- Jim (now playing, heh)

 

[quicksrt]

Seems there's only one member firmly in the Gilbert O'Sullivan supporter group. Guess he's alone, again naturally.

As far as AF is concerned, it's simply out of the question.

 

[Q-Eight]

I still say dig through the archives for unreleased Quad.

Here's two other's that sprung to mind tonight:

The Guess Who - So Long, Bannatyne
The Guess Who - Live at the Paramount

Now, neither appeared in their entirety in Quad, but are basically the only two classic Guess Who albums not released. Bannatyne ranked MUCH higher on the charts than either Rockin', Artificial Paradise or even #10! But, we did get a few cuts from it on Best Of #2.

Same thing goes for Live at the Paramount. Would've made for an awesome 2-tape set if they'd have tried to put out the entire concert. (Hey, they did it for Elvis!) and again, we got one track from Live! on the Best Of #2.

Now, from what we've learned over the years with certain single tracks appearing on samplers, many times the entire album from whence those tracks came, were completely mixed and often finished - only left unreleased. This leads me to believe that at the very least, So Long, Bannatyne was mixed. Possibly Live!, but I doubt that one ever was. The only thing I think that would've killed Bannatyne was it's over 45-minute runtime.

Still, those would be two great Guess Who albums to put out. I don't think Live! has been re-released on CD in the last decade and I don't believe Bannatyne ever has. I would want to look for these to see if they were ever done. I want to hear Pain Train in Quad!!

 

[fredblue]

Seems there's only one member firmly in the Gilbert O'Sullivan supporter group. Guess he's alone, again naturally.

There's no justice in the world when total dreck like "Get Down" gets to Number One in the UK chart but EJ didn't get a solo UK Number One throughout the whole of the 70's...

 

[fredblue]

Or a reasonable facsimile:

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-- Jim (now playing, heh)

Any chance Derringer's "Spring Fever" might be viable as an AF QUAD SACD?

Is there sufficient interest? Would it sell? Is it in the vault?

I'd love to hear the mix.. an old SQ LP of this one is really proving very htf.

 

[quicksrt]

Any chance Derringer's "Spring Fever" might be viable as an AF QUAD SACD?

Is there sufficient interest? Would it sell? Is it in the vault?

I'd love to hear the mix.. an old SQ LP of this one is really proving very htf.

I like some of this album. But being a "hitless" album, I'd expect AF to be more likely to consider All American Boy before this one. And even AAB is quite unlikely.

God I can remember seeing this in the new release stacks at Odyssey Records on the Las Vegas strip summer of '75. I was a big fan but could not afford it right then when there was a new Aerosmith album that I had to have as well as a couple albums I wanted by KISS who I had just seen in concert at the Sahara (Dressed to Kill tour).

But no, it would not sell very well IMO.

 

[quicksrt]

I still say dig through the archives for unreleased Quad.

Here's two other's that sprung to mind tonight:

The Guess Who - So Long, Bannatyne
The Guess Who - Live at the Paramount

Now, neither appeared in their entirety in Quad, but are basically the only two classic Guess Who albums not released. Bannatyne ranked MUCH higher on the charts than either Rockin', Artificial Paradise or even #10! But, we did get a few cuts from it on Best Of #2.

Same thing goes for Live at the Paramount. Would've made for an awesome 2-tape set if they'd have tried to put out the entire concert. (Hey, they did it for Elvis!) and again, we got one track from Live! on the Best Of #2.

Now, from what we've learned over the years with certain single tracks appearing on samplers, many times the entire album from whence those tracks came, were completely mixed and often finished - only left unreleased. This leads me to believe that at the very least, So Long, Bannatyne was mixed. Possibly Live!, but I doubt that one ever was. The only thing I think that would've killed Bannatyne was it's over 45-minute runtime.

Still, those would be two great Guess Who albums to put out. I don't think Live! has been re-released on CD in the last decade and I don't believe Bannatyne ever has. I would want to look for these to see if they were ever done. I want to hear Pain Train in Quad!!

I'm hoping that eventually we will get "The Best of The Guess Who Vol. 2" with the 4.0 layer. It seems that the more hit songs included the better the sales potential. The fact that volume one has been done is always a plus, they can form a nice Audiophile set for previous buyers.

Artificial Paradise is my favorite album from the band, but is was a big stiff at the time, and it made the cutout bins by the droves. Better sticking to hit filled albums during the first fantastic year of the AF 4.0 series. #10 is a fine album too and has a quad mix. It's not happening right now either.

 

[quicksrt]

There's no justice in the world when total dreck like "Get Down" gets to Number One in the UK chart but EJ didn't get a solo UK Number One throughout the whole of the 70's...

When "The Bitch is Back" and Don't let the Sun Go Down on Me" are such stunners from the era.

What about that classic "Clare" now that one we just still love to sing in the shower right?

 

[fredblue]

I like some of this album. But being a "hitless" album, I'd expect AF to be more likely to consider All American Boy before this one. And even AAB is quite unlikely.

God I can remember seeing this in the new release stacks at Odyssey Records on the Las Vegas strip summer of '75. I was a big fan but could not afford it right then when there was a new Aerosmith album that I had to have as well as a couple albums I wanted by KISS who I had just seen in concert at the Sahara (Dressed to Kill tour).

But no, it would not sell very well IMO.

Ah well.. worth a try! I'll keep looking for the old SQ LP Was All American Boy not a popular album? I love it and the Quad mix is great!

 

[quicksrt]

Ah well.. worth a try! I'll keep looking for the old SQ LP Was All American Boy not a popular album? I love it and the Quad mix is great!

Slow seller, low charting, a minor radio hit. His most popular solo album which is not saying a lot.

 

[quicksrt]

This post was posted in the AF Sony thread, I'm moving it to it's correct place which is here
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It does seem like Universal is going to continue to be difficult or even impossible so far as licensing out their quad mixes to AF. But there is one album that might not fall victim to this corporate gridlock.

One of the great legendary quad mixes, ZZ Top's Tres Hombres which came out on London in 1973 is no longer controlled by Uni!!!!!

When ZZ left the London label they went to Warner Brothers and took their entire catalog with them. This is a good thing as this stunner 4-channel mix is still a possibility for AF, as the ZZ Top catalog was long outta there by the time of the Uni fire.

I'm sure the folks who have been an information resource to Marshall at AF have pitched this title as a "crown jewel" in the world of 70s quadraphonic sound. So I'm hoping that AF has this and a couple others all planned and almost ready to go next year, and are pacing the releases so that some of the very best is yet to come.

Would it not be cool if Tres Hombres & Court and Spark kicked off the new year of AF's 4.0 releases? Wouldn't we all just go completely bonkers?

 

[fredblue]

When "The Bitch is Back" and Don't let the Sun Go Down on Me" are such stunners from the era.

What about that classic "Clare" now that one we just still love to sing in the shower right?

Precisely! He had a few more singles in the UK in the 70's including
Your Song, Rocket Man, Crocodile Rock, Daniel, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, Candle In The Wind, Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting, Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, Pinball Wizard, Someone Saved My Life Tonight, Philadelphia Freedom, Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word... to name a few..

..they're not just singles and they're not just hit singles.. many if not all of them are standards that have more than stood the test of time, which makes it faintly ludicrous none of them were UK Number 1's in the 70's.. to add insult to injury several of them hit Number One on the Billboard chart in the U.S.. yet not one of them hit the top spot here, while total shit like Gilbert O'Sullivan (and many others) routinely did. Is there a head shaking emoticon?

Sorry for going OT.. Rant over! Oh yeah.. To AF, can we have NO Gilbert O'F***ing Sullivan surround SACDs - please?

 

[fredblue]

Slow seller, low charting, a minor radio hit. His most popular solo album which is not saying a lot.

How sad! I'd rather have an AF Quad SACD of All American Boy than a number of other old Quads. A hidden gem, or sleeper hit that's ripe for reappraisal today, I would suggest.. I shall be playing the SQ thru the Surround Master a lot during my Quad holiday! :banana: