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"There is not more available from these albums, nor any planned.."

WTF...!? :yikes

Do you mean there won't be any Isley Brothers, O'Jays, Harold Melvin Quad albums released on SACD by AF? :(



Utter Blasphemy!

Does this mean the honeymoon's OVER?

Adam you better insure those Columbia Vinyl SQs for a thousand pounds and up the dosage to Fairy Liquid PLUS!
 
Oh yes, John Lennon on that sampler would be fine indeed.

but I don't think SONY/BMG has his music rights, just UMe.





but if AF now has UMe catalogue access? Well good news indeed.

I almost forgot the collaborative effort on RCA.

NILSSON/LENNON-PUSSYCATS .The disc Lennon produced and contributed to musically for Harry, during his wild "sans Yoko"years.
 
We've had the long running polls for a while now. I think everyone knows what albums are desired. The sampler it looks like is a way to get some tracks released from the long list of titles that exist in decent shape, sound fine, but have fallen victim to being locked out of consideration due to a previous license (like MFSL) being granted for SACD. Santana, Dylan, and Nilsson, Miles Davis, Jeff Beck, and EW&F I think are all off the table for their albums coming out in the original quad mixes. Things change of course. But once Marshall stated that anything out or coming out on SACD / DSD elsewhere is most unlikely to be considered for AF. Then we could do the subtraction ourselves and figure out what is not coming.

Point is, this sampler represents a lot of stuff that is not available and will not be available for the foreseeable future in SACD quad album form. Or, it is available for license, but AF do not have the album on their desired wish list for quad. I'm thrilled that AF went the distance to get what they can here, the single songs/cuts.

Marshall told me that he was reluctant to use the term "Sampler" in discussing this comp. The reason he said was that there is not more available from these albums, nor any planned. So it's not a sampler of things in his catalog, or a sampler of anything. It's a various artists "collection". So I was a little surprised that the art mock-up has sampler in the text.

I know that QQ has polls, I've been here since the inception of the site. The thing is, QuadraphonicQuad (as great as it is) isn't the center of the universe: there are hundreds or thousands of purchasers of AF product that don't know about or don't come to QQ. AF putting a poll up on their website or facebook page is more about engaging their fanbase and giving them a voice and getting them excited about what exists in quad than it is gathering actual valuable market research. Not everyone has the same level of arcane knowledge that we do here, and every person who's eyes you open about what exists in the vaults of the major labels becomes a potential purchaser which adds to your leverage as a licensee. It doesn't serve any positive purpose as a business to take consumer interest for granted - you should stoke it at every available opportunity. It's a much better position to be in where you have people rabidly asking for things and you as the business saying 'we're doing the best we can' than not asking at all.

As far as what's available and what isn't, it's nice that you've decided to annoint yourself as Marshall Blonstein's mouthpiece, but there are exceptions to the rule, even within AF's own quad reissue program - they put out Blood Sweat & Tears II, which had already been released on SACD not once, but twice previously, and the Jeff Beck Group SACD they released came out as a remastered CD via Iconoclassic Records literally a month before AF's SACD came out. In the words of Captain Picard from Star Trek, 'things are only impossible until they aren't' - these things are a fluid situation and for every month this program is in existence, old licensing contracts expire, label relationships with artists change, etc. At the very least, there seems to be no visible barrier to at least two of the other Earth Wind & Fire quad mixes being released other than the location and quality of the tapes.
 
At the very least, there seems to be no visible barrier to at least two of the other Earth Wind & Fire quad mixes being released other than the location and quality of the tapes.

Or sales.

Right now, the Audio Fidelity Multichannel SACD of "Open Our Eyes" by Earth, Wind & Fire is # 338 in sales on the Top Selling Multichannel SACD Sales Chart at Acoustic Sounds.
That's 2 spots lower than the 5.1 Christmas Album by the New York Voices.

http://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=results&start=321 &CategoryID=10
 
There is more to come from Audio Fidelity in terms of Multichannel SACDs.
The "honeymoon" isn't over. :)

Brian, I was jesting with fredblue.

As far as I'm concerned, the honeymoon with Audio Fidelity is just beginning.

I am one of their BIGGEST fanboys. See my post #88 on this thread.
 
Or sales.

Right now, the Audio Fidelity Multichannel SACD of "Open Our Eyes" by Earth, Wind & Fire is # 338 in sales on the Top Selling Multichannel SACD Sales Chart at Acoustic Sounds.
That's 2 spots lower than the 5.1 Christmas Album by the New York Voices.

http://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=results&start=321 &CategoryID=10

Not surprising Brian, As much as I liked EW&F's Open Your Eyes.....it was NO Gratitude.....http://hraudio.net/showmusic.php?title=814#tracks

As far as the Elliot Scheiner 5.1 remixed Christmas chestnut "Let It Snow" Audio Fidelity SACD from New York Voices .....it was one of the best sounding, highly discrete and enjoyable holiday albums to come out in years.
 
I know that QQ has polls, I've been here since the inception of the site. The thing is, QuadraphonicQuad (as great as it is) isn't the center of the universe: there are hundreds or thousands of purchasers of AF product that don't know about or don't come to QQ. AF putting a poll up on their website or facebook page is more about engaging their fanbase and giving them a voice and getting them excited about what exists in quad than it is gathering actual valuable market research. Not everyone has the same level of arcane knowledge that we do here, and every person who's eyes you open about what exists in the vaults of the major labels becomes a potential purchaser which adds to your leverage as a licensee. It doesn't serve any positive purpose as a business to take consumer interest for granted - you should stoke it at every available opportunity. It's a much better position to be in where you have people rabidly asking for things and you as the business saying 'we're doing the best we can' than not asking at all.

As far as what's available and what isn't, it's nice that you've decided to annoint yourself as Marshall Blonstein's mouthpiece, but there are exceptions to the rule, even within AF's own quad reissue program - they put out Blood Sweat & Tears II, which had already been released on SACD not once, but twice previously, and the Jeff Beck Group SACD they released came out as a remastered CD via Iconoclassic Records literally a month before AF's SACD came out. In the words of Captain Picard from Star Trek, 'things are only impossible until they aren't' - these things are a fluid situation and for every month this program is in existence, old licensing contracts expire, label relationships with artists change, etc. At the very least, there seems to be no visible barrier to at least two of the other Earth Wind & Fire quad mixes being released other than the location and quality of the tapes.

I've also been around, but way before the inception of this site, I go back to the Yahoo group era.

Jon has already said, one can pray, hope, pray some more, and poll over at FB, but if it is not happening, it ain't happening. Get that straight.

I just relayed what I was told. Sorry you took offence, and felt like being snarky in your reply with me being some mouthpiece. I'll admit I do know more of what's going on behind the scene than most, but that is no reason for your snarky reply.

But yes, those six artists I mentioned are not coming out as albums that include the hits on this "collection" we have coming. But there are other things to look forward to. I'm fine with what we have gotten and the cool stuff coming later (that I of course cannot mention).
 
Or sales.

Right now, the Audio Fidelity Multichannel SACD of "Open Our Eyes" by Earth, Wind & Fire is # 338 in sales on the Top Selling Multichannel SACD Sales Chart at Acoustic Sounds.
That's 2 spots lower than the 5.1 Christmas Album by the New York Voices.

http://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=results&start=321 &CategoryID=10

So that is not a good chart placement? Or is this impressive?

It's one of my favorite AF releases, very delighted to hear this for the first time.
 
Or sales.

Right now, the Audio Fidelity Multichannel SACD of "Open Our Eyes" by Earth, Wind & Fire is # 338 in sales on the Top Selling Multichannel SACD Sales Chart at Acoustic Sounds.
That's 2 spots lower than the 5.1 Christmas Album by the New York Voices.

http://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=results&start=321 &CategoryID=10

Fair point that sales are obviously important and I'm sure that Audio Fidelity knows exactly how many copies of 'Open Our Eyes' they've sold, but I don't think the top sellers chart at Acoustic 'No Discount For You' Sounds is any arbiter of anything. How many people here paid $29.98 plus shipping at Acoustic Sounds when they could get it from Amazon or a variety of other discount sellers for ~$24 and free shipping? Also, what's the criteria for Acoustic Sounds sales chart? Is it all time (and if so when did they start keeping track), or caculated for a set period of time? How many copies differentiate position 338 from position 200 or 100 or 1?

There have been well over 10,000 titles released in the history of the SACD format, I'd say putting out a title that ranks at 338th (comfortably in the top 3.5%) is nothing to sniff at.
 
Not surprising Brian, As much as I liked EW&F's Open Your Eyes.....it was NO Gratitude.....http://hraudio.net/showmusic.php?title=814#tracks

As far as the Elliot Scheiner 5.1 remixed Christmas chestnut "Let It Snow" Audio Fidelity SACD from New York Voices .....it was one of the best sounding, highly discrete and enjoyable holiday albums to come out in years.

Well I've tried not to go down this road because (talking of Gratitude) I am IMMENSELY grateful for ALL that AF is doing in their Surround endeavour.. but Open Our Eyes was, imho, possibly not the best choice they could've made out of the EW&F Quads at this stage.. maybe it's all that exists in the vault, who knows.. Personally reckon Spirit would have been a better choice by virtue of the Quad mix's rarity (its EW&F's hardest to find Quad by a country mile, the SQ decodes well but its SQ.. and the Q8 conversion I've heard while having superior separation to the LP and being truly discrete as expected - no disrespect to anyone - sounds pretty poor).. Head To The Sky may have been a better choice because it is a better surround mix than Open Our Eyes (Head To The Sky's arguably the most adventurous surround mix of all the EW&F Quads) though it is a more jazzy freeform album than their others of the Quad era, so perhaps not.. and That's The Way would have been a better choice commercially as their most popular album of that period and with more crossover appeal to Rock/Pop listeners, I feel - all as ever just my 2c's. Ah well, at least AF got one EW&F Quad out the door.. and for that I'm thankful.
 
I've also been around, but way before the inception of this site, I go back to the Yahoo group era.

Jon has already said, one can pray, hope, pray some more, and poll over at FB, but if it is not happening, it ain't happening. Get that straight.

I just relayed what I was told. Sorry you took offence, and felt like being snarky in your reply with me being some mouthpiece. I'll admit I do know more of what's going on behind the scene than most, but that is no reason for your snarky reply.

But yes, those six artists I mentioned are not coming out as albums that include the hits on this "collection" we have coming. But there are other things to look forward to. I'm fine with what we have gotten and the cool stuff coming later (that I of course cannot mention).

Sorry I must have missed your previous post on this.. :eek:

What are the 6 artists you mentioned already that are not coming out as albums that include the hits on this AF collection/sampler disc, please?
 
Fair point that sales are obviously important and I'm sure that Audio Fidelity knows exactly how many copies of 'Open Our Eyes' they've sold, but I don't think the top sellers chart at Acoustic 'No Discount For You' Sounds is any arbiter of anything. How many people here paid $29.98 plus shipping at Acoustic Sounds when they could get it from Amazon or a variety of other discount sellers for ~$24 and free shipping? Also, what's the criteria for Acoustic Sounds sales chart? Is it all time (and if so when did they start keeping track), or caculated for a set period of time? How many copies differentiate position 338 from position 200 or 100 or 1?

There have been well over 10,000 titles released in the history of the SACD format, I'd say putting out a title that ranks at 338th (comfortably in the top 3.5%) is nothing to sniff at.

Top 3.5% is great! :D

I'd buy that for a dollar.. and 97.65% of all statistics are made up. Allegedly. :eek:
 
Had one of them.. PA = nothing but a PITA ;)

Now Ralphie, can you find quicksrt's post with the magical 6 acts that aren't going to appear on an AF SACD anytime soon..?

Chuffed if I can.. :p


I'll entrust THAT chore to my PIT:flameA PA!

Actually Adam....it's quicksrt's Post #89 ON THIS THREAD........Dylan, Nilsson, Miles Davis, EW&F, etc. All OFF THE TABLE as MoFi and AP have already licensed these artists for future SACD STEREO releases. Bummer!
 
Ok, so I can forget about any of this lot then..

Santana (14 Quads, including Santana Live w/Buddy Miles and Santana collaboration albums with Alice Coltrane and John McLaughlin)
Dylan (3 Quads)
Nilsson (4 Quads)
Miles Davis (2 Quads)
Jeff Beck (2 Quads)
EW&F (3 Quads)

So that's 28 Quad albums who's artists are represented on this upcoming compilation off the table for the near
future.
 
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its a shame there's not a window in which labels like MFSL have to get product out from the time of licensing or its revoked or something, the evil quad blocking *****. Goodnight, I love you all.
 
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