Beatles Revolver Box Set (Dolby Atmos Mix available for streaming; No Blu-Ray)

[César]

HOLD THE PHONE!...according to Bob's email, the Super Deluxe edition contains 5 CDs and a 100-page book in a slipcover AND a "Digital Audio Collection" comprising "stereo & hi res 96kHz/24-bit stereo + mono + Dolby Atmos."

So the Atmos mix is included in the SDE after all--just not on a Blu-Ray? What form will this "Digital Audio Collection" take? Clarity, please!

This is terribly confusing. I understand there will be two digital editions, one with 63 and the other with 14 tracks, separate from the physical releases. Which is fine for me (well, depending on the price).
But then when you click on the link to pre-order, there's no mention to these digital editions.
I'm afraid we need to wait and be patient until all this mess is sorted out. And, in my case, I will stream the full album before purchasing anything...

 

[kap'n krunch]

Revolver Special Edition (Standard): 14 tracks

• Digital (New album mix in stereo & hi res 96kHz/24-bit stereo + new Dolby Atmos mix)
• 1CD in digipak (New stereo mix)
• 1LP (New stereo mix) on half-speed mastered 180-gram vinyl
• Limited Edition 1LP vinyl picture disc (New stereo mix) illustrated with the album cover art

reading between the lines I THINK that it will contain a VOUCHER with a DOWNLOAD for the MCH mix...

 

[sjcorne]

I wouldn't count on the Atmos mix being available on anything other than the streaming services. What digital distributor would they sell an Atmos download through? What format would they use? I doubt anyone at Apple/UMe knows how to make an MKV file with TrueHD/Atmos.

 

[edisonbaggins]

I wouldn't count on the Atmos mix being available on anything other than the streaming services. What digital distributor would they sell an Atmos download through? What format would they use? I doubt anyone at Apple/UMe knows how to make an MKV file with TrueHD/Atmos.

Would be huge business for IAA.

 

[M-K]

I'm only interested in Surround & Stereo. Vinyl is not needed. I cannot understand the bundling of vinyl and digital hires media. When do the record companies catch this?
We'll wait and see what is released. Then we can decide if or not...

 

[sjcorne]

Would be huge business for IAA.

I've been trying to get an interview with Giles Martin for over a year now. If it's that difficult just to get through his management, I'd imagine doing any kind of Beatles-related business is nigh-impossible.

 

[humprof]

I wouldn't count on the Atmos mix being available on anything other than the streaming services. What digital distributor would they sell an Atmos download through? What format would they use? I doubt anyone at Apple/UMe knows how to make an MKV file with TrueHD/Atmos.

The confusing product descriptions, together with the pre-release miscues and Giles's terse tweet from the other day, suggest to me that this whole thing was not quite ready for prime time, and that there were some hasty and ill-advised eleventh-hour decisions that have caught a few people off guard.

 

[Imbobman]

Apparently, there are lots of Beatlemaniacs willing to shell out the bread. Here's another recent article that will piss us all off again today...just in case some of us were getting over it. LOL

http://webgrafikk.com/blog/news/mal-software-saved-revolver-mix/

Interesting article there about the MAL software....
So the end result was ?????? No blu-ray with a 5.1/Atmos mix.
It motivated me to leave a 'non-glowing' comment there.
Thanks ar surround for rubbing a bit more salt in the wounds..LOL for sure!

 

[ss9001]

The marketeers for this couldn't have made it more confusing if they tried!

Interpretation 1 - digital collection available to box set buyers - voucher, download site?? (I THINK the CD vs LP collection but who knows)
Interpretation 2 - digital collection available to buy separately? and from whom??
Interpretation 3 - there will be no digital collection for sale, streamed only

Yes, make it very confusing to a prospective buyer what to buy...salesmanship 101

I'll place the preorder for the CD collection in the hope obtaining the digital collection is included. I can always cancel. In the meantime, I really hope someone at Universal/Apple can clear up this mess. Which the beatles.com site doesn't.

Weird way to announce this.

 

[humprof]

I wouldn't count on the Atmos mix being available on anything other than the streaming services. What digital distributor would they sell an Atmos download through? What format would they use? I doubt anyone at Apple/UMe knows how to make an MKV file with TrueHD/Atmos.

Well, the mystery is what they mean by a "Digital Audio Collection." Doesn't need to be in the form of downloads, necessarily; it could be physical--a USB stick, say. Maybe they wanted to pinch pennies by saving on Blu-Ray licensing and authoring costs?

 

[riskylogic]

HOLD THE PHONE!...according to Bob's email, the Super Deluxe edition contains 5 CDs and a 100-page book in a slipcover AND a "Digital Audio Collection" comprising "stereo & hi res 96kHz/24-bit stereo + mono + Dolby Atmos."

So the Atmos mix is included in the SDE after all--just not on a Blu-Ray? What form will this "Digital Audio Collection" take? Clarity, please!

USB?

 

[sjcorne]

Well, the mystery is what they mean by a "Digital Audio Collection." Doesn't need to be in the form of downloads, necessarily; it could be physical--a USB stick, say. Maybe they wanted to pinch pennies by saving on Blu-Ray licensing and authoring costs?

Rush's recent Moving Pictures mega-box had a press release with similar wording, yet a multichannel download never materialized.

 

[J. PUPSTER]

HOLD THE PHONE!...according to Bob's email, the Super Deluxe edition contains 5 CDs and a 100-page book in a slipcover AND a "Digital Audio Collection" comprising "stereo & hi res 96kHz/24-bit stereo + mono + Dolby Atmos."

So the Atmos mix is included in the SDE after all--just not on a Blu-Ray? What form will this "Digital Audio Collection" take? Clarity, please!

As I mentioned earlier, I believe they are confusing by stating 'Digital' instead of 'Streaming', I'm not hopeful for any Physical surround release

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/fo...treaming-no-blu-ray.32752/page-19#post-646813

 

[Imbobman]

Well, the mystery is what they mean by a "Digital Audio Collection." Doesn't need to be in the form of downloads, necessarily; it could be physical--a USB stick, say. Maybe they wanted to pinch pennies by saving on Blu-Ray licensing and authoring costs?

Yes, you might very well be on to something there??? I hope so.
Even though typically a USB doesn't have the longevity of a 'correctly made' physical media like blu-ray/DVD, I'd take it over streaming.

 

[ss9001]

The confusing product descriptions, together with the pre-release miscues and Giles's terse tweet from the other day, suggest to me that this whole thing was not quite ready for prime time, and that there were some hasty and ill-advised eleventh-hour decisions that have caught a few people off guard.

Sure seems that way. Maybe the backlash has forced them to re-evaluate. Too late for a BD-A but if they offered Atmos/5.1 & hi-rez stereo files to buy that works for me.

 

[Quad Linda]

IMHO, IF they meant Blu-ray, they would have used the verbiage, BD, BD-A or something...

Large print giveth, small print (or omission) taketh away - Tom Waits

 

[ss9001]

You may well be on to something there??? Even though typically a USB doesn't have the longevity of a correctly made physical media like blu-ray/DVD, I take it over streaming.

Better than nada. Transfer files from USB to drive/NAS/Roon server/music file player, back it up. Done. I for one wouldn't play directly from USB stick long-term, at least not without backing it up

But I would think if a non-streaming digital collection is to be available, they'd wouldn't even bother with USB stick. Just provide the url for downloading and download code. USB stick would be a PITA for the company especially with QC verification etc.

 

[J. PUPSTER]

If the assumption is a Giles' Atmos mix, what would be the format/codec for distribution, I'm afraid folks' anticipation, is just setting themselves up for more heartache

 

[humprof]

Rush's recent Moving Pictures mega-box had a press release with similar wording, yet a multichannel download never materialized.

As I mentioned earlier, I believe they are confusing by stating 'Digital' instead of 'Streaming', I'm not hopeful for any Physical surround release

I hear you. And I'm probably wishfully misreading when I imagine that the bulleted "Digital Audio Collection" in Bob's email implies that said "Collection" will be included in the Superdeluxe Special Edition. It's just as likely to mean that the "Collection" is one of 3 forms--digital (read: streaming), CD+book box, vinyl+book box--in which the Superdeluxe Special Edition will be offered. At any rate: some clarity in nomenclature on the part of the marketing department would be welcome. Why must we all become amateur Kremlinologists or Biblical hermeneuticists in order to figure out what they're trying to say???

 

[ss9001]

If the assumption is a Giles' Atmos mix, what would be the format/codec for distribution, I'm afraid folks' anticipation, is just setting themselves up for more heartache

Codec has to be Dolby TrueHD obviously but the container? I don't know. makemkv? iso file like playing the disc? You're right, it could all be down to subscribe to Apple/Tidal etc, maybe a voucher for so many months?

So confusing that I think it could well be not thought out & rushed perhaps due to the backlash. If this is what they intended from the start, one wonders how sites like SDE got it so wrong about the BD-A, showing track listings on each disc.