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Beatles to release expanded "Red" and "Blue" compilations in Dolby Atmos, including brand new song "Now and Then"
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If we’re talking about how AI learns (at this point) how to do certain things because it scraped the Internet regardless of content, then the issue is about Copyright. If MGM wants to hire Arnold Schwarzenegger to sing a joke version of OTR that’s fine. What’s not cool is when one’s music and likeness is used without their permission, and artists don’t get paid.
This final song is an official version being released by The Beatles rights holders. If AI can do a better job at extracting John’s vocals from an old noisy cassette tape, why not? Again, with AI the issue is about Copyright, and if the music is any good.
This final song is an official version being released by The Beatles rights holders. If AI can do a better job at extracting John’s vocals from an old noisy cassette tape, why not? Again, with AI the issue is about Copyright, and if the music is any good.
I think Paul has tried to come across as trendy by mentioning ‘A.I.’ - but it is sending the wrong message. He is really referring to the ‘de-mix’ technology as used for the other Beatles recordings and as a useful restoration tool for all kinds of audio - yes it may be based on some ‘A.I.’ tech, but being able to extract or separate audio elements has been in development for many many years and has become particularly effective recently. It’s just that some people prefer not to talk too much about their post-production techniques and secrets!!.
However the use of ‘A.I.’ to recreate or emulate new material and performances from what it learns is another matter - and that is what many people assume from Paul’s supposed use of ‘A.I.’ on John’s vocal.
However extracting John’s existing vocal and then doing overdubs is not letting the ‘A.I.’ do the creative work.
However the use of ‘A.I.’ to recreate or emulate new material and performances from what it learns is another matter - and that is what many people assume from Paul’s supposed use of ‘A.I.’ on John’s vocal.
However extracting John’s existing vocal and then doing overdubs is not letting the ‘A.I.’ do the creative work.
Today, Paul made the following statement:
Been great to see such an exciting response to our forthcoming Beatles project. No one is more excited than us to be sharing something with you later in the year. We’ve seen some confusion and speculation about it. Seems to be a lot of guess work out there. Can’t say too much at this stage but to be clear, nothing has been artificially or synthetically created. It’s all real and we all play on it. We cleaned up some existing recordings - a process which has gone on for years. We hope you love it as much as we do. More news in due course - Paul
Been great to see such an exciting response to our forthcoming Beatles project. No one is more excited than us to be sharing something with you later in the year. We’ve seen some confusion and speculation about it. Seems to be a lot of guess work out there. Can’t say too much at this stage but to be clear, nothing has been artificially or synthetically created. It’s all real and we all play on it. We cleaned up some existing recordings - a process which has gone on for years. We hope you love it as much as we do. More news in due course - Paul
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PedroEB
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How can it possibly be a new Beatles song? Maybe Ringo will be involved, but as far as I am aware, there's nothing available from George that could be included.
The surviving Beatles tried already to use this song for the Anthology project, but apparently George force the shelving of the song as he thought it was rubbish. Maybe his guitar contribution has been reused now (all this assuming it's the same song that was attempted for the Anthology). We'll get to know in due time
Ringo confirms that George recorded some parts for the track.
https://www.musicradar.com/news/rin...ong-say-theyd-never-fake-john-lennon-vocal-ai
"Now And Then" seems entirely out of place on either compilation that covers the period 1962-1970 since nearly all of the elements of that track (assuming the "Because" outtake piece is true) was recorded after 1970.
The good news is that the Red and Blue album reissues should have new mixes and likely Atmos mixes. Unfortunately, if Giles Martin approaches the Atmos mixes like he did with 1 then we'll be disappointed.
This image was posted on The Beatles' social media today.
Mailing list subscribers were also sent an image of a countdown clock, indicating that an announcement would be coming tomorrow
Mailing list subscribers were also sent an image of a countdown clock, indicating that an announcement would be coming tomorrow
Here's the pack shots for the new Red and Blue compilations being announced tomorrow.
The final Beatles song "Now and Then" is the final track on the expanded Blue set.
I expect both of these compilations will be available to stream in Dolby Atmos, but I am not expecting any physical editions with Atmos, 5.1 surround, or any other surround formats.
The final Beatles song "Now and Then" is the final track on the expanded Blue set.
I expect both of these compilations will be available to stream in Dolby Atmos, but I am not expecting any physical editions with Atmos, 5.1 surround, or any other surround formats.
Here's the pack shots for the new Red and Blue compilations being announced tomorrow.
The final Beatles song "Now and Then" is the final track on the expanded Blue set.
I expect both of these compilations will be available to stream in Dolby Atmos, but I am not expecting any physical editions with Atmos, 5.1 surround, or any other surround formats.
Ryan,
From the pictures of the discs one can spot a bunch of songs from the White Album and Revolver that were not included in the original Red & Blue series.
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Only "Now and Then", no "Free As A Bird" or "Real Love"??
all info here: Announcement | The Beatles
as predicted, Dolby Atmos mixes streaming (no physical release)
as predicted, Dolby Atmos mixes streaming (no physical release)
Wondering how the early songs will sound in Atmos, hopefully better than in the 1+ collection
I’ll be curious if the Apple streams will include the White Album tracks in Atmos. Since the box is “only” in 5.1, that is their only remixed album not streamable in surround. I like those 5.1 Dolby/DTS tracks but it’d be nice to have easy (lossy) access.
Obligatory lament: Once again no physical media. I’ll just daydream about an eventual blu-ray only box set of the albums in Atmos. Why quadruple dip when I can quintuple dip?
I’ve never owned either of these comps. Unlike Past Masters, these were already redundant when I was at peak fandom. With the expanded tracklists — and the “new” track — I may finally grab one or both (after doing price tracking due diligence). I’ve made worse purchases in the heat of retail therapy.
Obligatory lament: Once again no physical media. I’ll just daydream about an eventual blu-ray only box set of the albums in Atmos. Why quadruple dip when I can quintuple dip?
I’ve never owned either of these comps. Unlike Past Masters, these were already redundant when I was at peak fandom. With the expanded tracklists — and the “new” track — I may finally grab one or both (after doing price tracking due diligence). I’ve made worse purchases in the heat of retail therapy.
Whoever is running The Beatles' releases is seriously out of touch. £75 for a vinyl and £25 for a CD? And no physical Atmos release after the furore of Revolver is poor. Even Floyd got the message recently and did a stand-alone release of DSOTM!
To me, 1967-1970 was noteworthy for having the clean intro for A Day In The Life and the clean fade-out for Back In The U.S.S.R.
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