BIG Blu-Ray Audio drive from Universal Music in 2013

[leevitalone1]

I expect that will be the case in time ?....but am I right in thinking, that these are going to be released as cd + blu ray audio ?

It would not make sense, the whole idea is lossless media. and as they mention, the ability to listen to the format you choose, like dvd audio-stereo or 5.1. With this, stereo/ and multi-channel ability are the choices. I have for a good example
"Machine Head" on cd and dvd audio. Why? would I choose to listen to the cd? Possibly in the car, that's it. I would be cheating myself. make sense?
I would think, the same material would be available on cd anyway-like MH, and many other titles. Given a choice-It's a no brainer.

 

[keenly]

Personally, I think it's all very encouraging ! They've got to start somewhere ! Let's hope we do get titles that haven't been released before. I don't think Universal are going into this with a half hearted approach. I think they will be putting every effort in to make it a success.
These discs will have a CD too ?....to encourage people to hear both / different audio formats ? Really could be the replacement for SACD, if it's approached correctly ! ?

It is half hearted as these Blu rays are from previous sources such as SHM SACDS some of which sound just like CDs.

 

[Dixie4]

It would not make sense, the whole idea is lossless media. and as they mention, the ability to listen to the format you choose, like dvd audio-stereo or 5.1. With this, stereo/ and multi-channel ability are the choices. I have for a good example
"Machine Head" on cd and dvd audio. Why? would I choose to listen to the cd? Possibly in the car, that's it. I would be cheating myself. make sense?
I would think, the same material would be available on cd anyway-like MH, and many other titles. Given a choice-It's a no brainer.

.....it may be a M.E. / CFS, cognitive moment for me ?....but I could have sworn I've read some listing saying CD + Blu Ray Audio ??

 

[0tto]

there nothing to be ashamed in announce sort like "we're working on remixing/remastering from original sources
these albums, to offer them to our consumers in never before heard quality of the sound." that's what usually
doing labels, even if final results far from what was promised. in plain words - commercially driven venture can't
have too much promo. i guess in this case they have nothing to say or use, beside abstract slogan "pure audio".
i wondering who's decides amount of purity of these audio?
if they have used Queen's original masters from 70th/80th, well, excuse my rudeness, but these for most part has
horrible mixes/fidelity and hardly can qualify for title superior recording even being put into 192/24. if so, what a
difference - garbage in - garbage out, but with premium price tag.

 

[Dixie4]

It is half hearted as these Blu rays are from previous sources such as SHM SACDS some of which sound just like CDs.

Time will tell, if it turns out to be half hearted.....the SHM-SACD's I own sound superior ( imo ) to CD's

 

[leevitalone1]

.....it may be a M.E. / CFS, cognitive moment for me ?....but I could have sworn I've read some listing saying CD + Blu Ray Audio ??

ahh, don't pay that attention to me, my ability to remember is headed south. I have come to know everyone thinks differently. They may choose to do that, makes little sense to me, but who am I to judge?

 

[leevitalone1]

there nothing to be ashamed in announce sort like "we're working on remixing/remastering from original sources
these albums, to offer them to our consumers in never before heard quality of the sound." that's what usually
doing labels, even if final results far from what was promised. in plain words - commercially driven venture can't
have too much promo. i guess in this case they have nothing to say or use, beside abstract slogan "pure audio".
i wondering who's decides amount of purity of these audio?
if they have used Queen's original masters from 70th/80th, well, excuse my rudeness, but these for most part has
horrible mixes/fidelity and hardly can qualify for title superior recording even being put into 192/24. if so, what a
difference - garbage in - garbage out, but with premium price tag.

Well stated!!!

 

[Dixie4]

ahh, don't pay that attention to me, my ability to remember is headed south. I have come to know everyone thinks differently. They may choose to do that, makes little sense to me, but who am I to judge?

M.E. is the illness / disability I suffer from, it affects cognitive function, i.e. recollection, amongst main other cognitive functions.....

Just checked Mylene Farmer disc on ebay & it states, deluxe cd + blu ray audio

 

[inquadwetrust]

More juicy pre-order scans of blu-ray audio to come...

http://musique.fnac.com/a5911303/Miles-Davis-Ascenseur-pour-l-echafaud-Blu-Ray-Audio-Blu-ray-audio

http://musique.fnac.com/a5911313/Nina-Simone-I-put-a-spell-on-you-Blu-Ray-Audio-Blu-ray-audio

http://musique.fnac.com/a5911292/Cat-Stevens-Tea-for-the-tillerman-Blu-Ray-Audio-Blu-ray-audio

http://musique.fnac.com/a5911295/Supertramp-Breakfast-in-America-Blu-Ray-Audio-Blu-ray-audio

http://musique.fnac.com/a5911283/Jacques-Brel-Ne-me-quitte-pas-Blu-Ray-Audio-Blu-ray-audio

http://musique.fnac.com/a5911309/El...la-et-Louis-again-Blu-Ray-Audio-Blu-ray-audio

http://musique.fnac.com/a5911285/Serge-Gainsbourg-Melody-Nelson-Blu-Ray-Audio-Blu-ray-audio

Not to get anyone's hopes up - but the triple disc set of Gainsbourg's Melody Nelson had a rather lovely surround mix. Hobbled by Dolby Digital but it never put me off. Strings to the rears with a vigour and swagger that Serge himself would have approved of. So the question is - does that DD mix make it to the BDA as PCM/DTS-Master Audio?



Nice info though - much appreciated for the heads up.

 

[Dixie4]

Not to get anyone's hopes up - but the triple disc set of Gainsbourg's Melody Nelson had a rather lovely surround mix. Hobbled by Dolby Digital but it never put me off. Strings to the rears with a vigour and swagger that Serge himself would have approved of. So the question is - does that DD mix make it to the BDA as PCM/DTS-Master Audio?





Nice info though - much appreciated for the heads up.

Lets hope this is the case ? I'm baffled that there's not more info, given that these releases are just 3 weeks away......

 

[rusinurbe]

http://musique.fnac.com/a5911285/Ser...-Blu-ray-audio


That track listing suggests just the two CD mixes and not the 5.1 which I would buy in an instant.

 

[Bob Squires Jr]

Regarding the HMV Japan thing...
Problem here is that they are most likely all stereo and that 90% of them, as usual, are classical & opera.
I noticed about 10 are rock out of about 150 of them and 4 (2 Tom Petty, 1 Led Zep and KC's Lark's) I already have.

Also, nothing appearing yet here in the states...
It seems that Japan & France are getting all the pre-order things set up.

I would love it if they re-did ones like Areosmith - TITA and some of the rarer SACD multis but they also
need to do some different stuff.
I do like the ABBA, Cat Stevens etc but we'll see.

 

[fredblue]

None of these are remastered. They are from previous sources.
Stevie Wonder has his own original master tapes and it is well known he will not let anyone touch them.

ok.. I thought it was all mythology/conjecture about Stevie controlling the tapes.. but I just looked around online and found this discussion which seems pretty conclusive..

http://soulfuldetroit.com/archive/index.php/t-1350.html

it turns out the last remaster of Songs in the Key of Life was indeed from a 2nd generation copy tape which was said to be mastered without Dolby for the first time etc.. blah.. the results were shit back then, so there you go this blu-ray will be a load of old shit too.

I GIVE UP

I've said it several times in this thread and I'm cyber-hoarse repeating it, I'm only hoping beyond hope this first lot (whatever the bloody ball-ache is on them) is just the starting point, from which we might eventually get decent new surround things.. lets face it there's not much else on the horizon.. SACD has become the preserve of stereo snobbery stuff, etc.

I could go on but I can't be bothered, I'm only the messenger, I don't work for Universal, I have no axe to grind and no vested interest beyond the potential of this campaign - don't shoot me I'm only the messenger.

FED UP with the negativity. If you don't like it, nobody's making anyone buy them. I'll support them to encourage more down the line, maybe that's dumb to some, I don't care, it's my money and I can flush it down the toilet if I want to.

Rant over.

 

[Quad Linda]

ok.. I've said it several times in this thread and I'm cyber-hoarse repeating it, I'm only hoping beyond hope this first lot (whatever the bloody ball-ache is on them) is just the starting point, from which we might eventually get decent new surround things...

Cyberhorse.

 

[Robert van Diggele]

Hi Adam, it seems strange that some already have an opinion before we have been able to listen to these BD anyway.

On a positive note, the prices have come done a little bit, the pre orders are now €19,99, instead of €21,99. Perhaps I dd not noticed this before, but the descriptions alsomentikn that buyers can also download an mp3 or flac version of the album. No mention of number of bits of hertz though.

 

[fredblue]

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Cyberhorse.

nay, nay and thrice nay..!!

 

[fredblue]

nay, nay and thrice nay..!!

I feel you know me Linda above all others on here and how I operate (and I regret that my usual sunny light-hearted kinda disposition has been eroded right now..) and I refuse to get totally worked-up about all this kershizzle.. but it's so disheartening to hear all the poo-pooing going on when it's anybody's guess as to a.) what these things are actually going to be and b.) what these things could eventually become if they take off..!!

 

[fredblue]

Hi Adam, it seems strange that some already have an opinion before we have been able to listen to these BD anyway.

On a positive note, the prices have come done a little bit, the pre orders are now €19,99, instead of €21,99. Perhaps I dd not noticed this before, but the descriptions alsomentikn that buyers can also download an mp3 or flac version of the album. No mention of number of bits of hertz though.

thank you Robert, yours is a voice of reason I greatly appreciate, particularly in the face of condemnation, suspicion and a pervading dismissive attitude to these releases before they've even got off the ground.

A "wait and see" policy is surely better at this stage (and then all the nay-sayers can hurl abuse and tell me "I told you so!") but to trash it all now is rather senseless.

If we give them a chance (the benefit of the doubt, if you will) and then read Universal the riot act if or when these things turn out to be another "missed opportunity" then so be it!

A 'blu-ray audio plus download' package seems to be a very sensible way to present what Universal see as a major new format for the future and I applaud their efforts - even if the results do end up being underwhelming or disappointing, at least they made an effort.

 

[fredblue]

the last post (from "rammiepie") on this page of the discussion thread about these upcoming blu-rays over at sa-cd.net is fantastic and I would very much like to shake them by the hand and say "Thank You".

http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/89782//y?page=last

I think rammiepie's suggestion UMG raid their vaults for existing quad and 5.1 mixes and include them on these BDA discs where possible is spot-on.

it's also very interesting to see that the sa-cd hardcore by and large are embracing this. yes there are dissenting voices there too but I'm quite pleasantly surprised at the response there which is by and large not one of dismissing these out of hand or seeing them as anything but what they represent right now - possibilities.

 

[elroy]

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Cyberhorse.

Still better than a cyberhearse...