DSotM underground DVD-A

[Dylan Berichon]

5) the quad mix at times has less sidewall imaging and is more discrete in its placement of instruments than the SACD. I prefer the wider, "between the speakers" imaging of Guthrie's mix (except for the vocals). Still, the quad mix is delightfully entertaining and a beautiful piece of music history that's now available in a hi-res format. I can't believe it!

I think that this probably has to do with the limitations of the SQ matrix, which this album was initially intended for. The instruments are forced to live in extreme corners.

P.S. in that Sound & Vision article, Parsons states that he mixed the heartbeat right of center, as if someone were standing in front of you. In this DVD-A/quad mix, the heartbeat is clearly in the left channel. Are the front channels flopped?

You'll notice he says "In the Stereo version" before he talks about mixing the heart beat.

The heart beat is suppose to start in the front left in the Quad.

 

[Felix E. Martinez]

Thanks for the clarification!

 

[Cai Campbell]

5) the quad mix at times has less sidewall imaging and is more discrete in its placement of instruments than the SACD. I prefer the wider, "between the speakers" imaging of Guthrie's mix (except for the vocals).

That's because the Guthrie mix is essentially "wide stereo". I read somewhere that he wanted to retain the integrity or whatever of the stereo mix. A piss-poor approach to mixing surround-sound, if you ask me. Actually, doing a track-by-track comparision, I do prefer a few of the Guthrie tracks (as I've written here) but as package, I prefer the Parsons mix by a wide margin.

 

[LiveShowCollector]

I Just Burned it and started listening to it...


SPEECHLESS

 

[Lucanu]

I think the Guthrie mix is a little static, not that bad but static.
That's why I prefer the Parsons, it sounds much more as a "Pink Floyd" fan would expect in surround.

 

[Felix E. Martinez]

This link combines an interview with Guthrie with Parsons' chat with Sound & Vision, creating a nice "point-counterpoint."

Both mixes have their pluses and minuses, and it's interesting to see that the band - particularly Gilmour and Waters - actually reigned in Guthrie's mix choices in a couple places ("On The Run", "Any Colour You Like").

 

[Bob R]

Jon & Cai have done a very good job of controlling this thread. Over at S&V, I made it clear that the first “one post wonder” who asked for a copy would close the thread - so far, so good.

This is an “event” in our lives that needs to be experienced. When/if it does come out as a commercial release, I’ll be glad to plop down my dollars for a great production.

 

[Benefactor]

Simply amazing.

 

[Lucanu]

I read the article and it's superb.

But right now I was thinking if the Guthrie mix was actually done by the cat

BTW, both versions are great, but I still prefer dynamic in surround mixing.

 

[ChristopherLees]

So is there anybody out there who wants to combine the best bits of both mixes....for a new ultimate surround disc?

lots of fun editing in 5.1

 

[dougi]

OK
You guys have peaked my interest again lol
Can someone p.m me please who has this
[email protected]
Thanks

 

[jeffrey r]

OK
You guys have peaked my interest again lol
Can someone p.m me please who has this
[email protected]
Thanks

See post 98.

 

[Benefactor]

This is a great forum, BTW.

Thank you to the folks who put it together.

Lots of great information here.

:brew

 

[Foxman]

I am hearing very good things about this on the sights I frequent. hopefully someone is going to hook me up from another forum since I don't have a DVD burner, but either way it's all good. Glad to hear all the rave reviews. I am hoping my Denon 2900 will play it since it hasnt played any homemade DVD's to date.

 

[ssully]

That's because the Guthrie mix is essentially "wide stereo". I read somewhere that he wanted to retain the integrity or whatever of the stereo mix. A piss-poor approach to mixing surround-sound, if you ask me. Actually, doing a track-by-track comparision, I do prefer a few of the Guthrie tracks (as I've written here) but as package, I prefer the Parsons mix by a wide margin.

Unlike Parsons' mix, Guthrie's mix was vetted by (and adjusted according to suggestions by) both Roger Waters and David Gilmour...so really, if you have complaints, they should be directed at those two as much as Guthrie.

 

[IDJIT DRAGON]

I am hearing very good things about this on the sights I frequent. hopefully someone is going to hook me up from another forum since I don't have a DVD burner, but either way it's all good. Glad to hear all the rave reviews. I am hoping my Denon 2900 will play it since it hasnt played any homemade DVD's to date.

It plays fine on my 2900


Cheers


Martin

 

[YmSeb]

I am hoping my Denon 2900 will play it since it hasnt played any homemade DVD's to date.

It does, of course, as long as the DVD is properly burned (either DVD-R or DVD+R, no difference).

I have many homemade DVD's and I have yet to found one that doesn't play in my Denon 2900, as long as the authoring is fine of course.

I've given many spins to the quad mix thanks to this DVD-A, and now I finally understand the enthousiasm about Parson's mix.

I only knew Guthrie's version from the SACD, as I did not want to listen a pirat DTS mix from the quad tapes.

In fact, like it's been said before very clearly, I like both too, with their own pros and cons. We're very lucky to have two very good surround mixes of such a masterpiece.

 

[QuadMike40502]

Can somebody PM me with instructions to burn this thing. Nero 6 and Sonic don't seem to cut it. Thanks.

 

[mandel]

Can somebody PM me with instructions to burn this thing. Nero 6 and Sonic don't seem to cut it. Thanks.

ISOs such as this (*cough*) burn fine for me in Nero 6. Just go to Recorder > Burn Image, Select the .iso archive and then click burn. (I think I checked the 'Finalise DVD' box too)

 

[MilleRSVR]

Hi Everyone,
I'm new to the Forum (first post), I was linked here from the AVS Forum.
I own the SACD of DSOTM but would love to try this DVD-A version.
Could anyone PM me with info on this.

Thanks in advance for any help.

MilleRSVR