ELP Emerson Lake & Palmer Cataloge in 5.1 Surround

[tarkusnj]

The going rate is 6 blocks of igloo ice for 1 American dollar.

Get real here...it is 2 pounds of blubber per American dollar.

 

[0tto]

Can you help me understand how much these cost in real money.-)) My pea brain can't handle all this pounds and Canadian dollars jazz.

£10 usually something between $15-16 US
in Europe VAT( value added tax - tax on sale) always included in price.
so in this case, the VAT (£1.67 or $2.60US) was deducted as he does purchase outside of EU.

 

[georgeshannon]

Wow. Thanks. That's about $32 delivered. I pre-ordered through Burning Shed and they charged about $47. They charge about $10 to ship each disc set. You wouldn't think popping a second disc set in the package would cost an additional $10. I thought $20 shipping and handling was a bit high.

 

[The Rang]

ELP on DVD Audio.

Great.

I haven't even started buying the King Crimson's yet and now here comes Emerson Lake & Palmer.

Can't keep up....can anyone spare a dime?

 

[Claus]

I had so many ELP copies... Victory, Rhino, Castle, Shout Factory.... I hope this is the final release!

I hope Steven Wilson will not do a flat transfer of "Welcome Back my Friends..." This one sounds aweful on every pressing. This one needs a careful remix!

 

[rugene]

Wow. Thanks. That's about $32 delivered. I pre-ordered through Burning Shed and they charged about $47. They charge about $10 to ship each disc set. You wouldn't think popping a second disc set in the package would cost an additional $10. I thought $20 shipping and handling was a bit high.

the lesson to all this : the cheapest way to get the cd's is to buy from the UK.

 

[neil wilkes]

I had so many ELP copies... Victory, Rhino, Castle, Shout Factory.... I hope this is the final release!

I hope Steven Wilson will not do a flat transfer of "Welcome Back my Friends..." This one sounds aweful on every pressing. This one needs a careful remix!

Hi Claus.
I think you have misunderstood this a little - the "flat transfer" in question on both ELP & Tarkus is referring to a flat transfer of Steven's remix - in both stereo & surround - as opposed to a "mastered" version where everything has been slammed within an inch of it's life with limiters for additional volume & as a result has had the living snot crushed out of it, killing all the dynamics. It does most emphatically not mean a flat transfer off the original tapes.
What happens is this.
Firstly, the tapes are transferred to a digital format for remixing, and Steven does the stereo as the first step to recreate the original sound of the record. This is then expanded out into 5.1 (discretely, of course, not upmixed) so we end up with 2 new mixes one stereo & one surround.
It is these new mixes that are flat transferred to the disc for authoring - not the original versions.

I hope this clarifies things for you!

 

[Claus]

@Neil

Thx for your detailed reply

Also thx for all your work to make ELP fans happy. Normally I don't like remixes... rewriting history, but I was very pleased with Aqualung. I hope I have the same good experience with the upcoming 2 ELP albums, Thick as a Brick and the next 72 remix.

 

[jefe1]

Pre-ordered from amazon Uk. Saved me $18 over amazon US. Don't know why its cheaper to order from farther away but I'm not complaining!
And thank you again Steve and Neil for making this happen!

 

[watsontr]

Pre-ordered both from Wow HD Au @ A$17 posted each. This must be a bargain for anyone in Australia who is interested. Although listed as 2CD + DVD-V, I imagine this just means they know no better? They can be slow to deliver but they've not let me down and I've bought lots of stuff from them in the past. Just awaiting delivery of my Peter Green 4CD Anthology that I ordered fom them last week

 

[jberq]

as opposed to a "mastered" version where everything has been slammed within an inch of it's life with limiters for additional volume & as a result has had the living snot crushed out of it, killing all the dynamics.

Now Neil..... tell us how you REALLY feel, lolol.

Seriously..... as a guy who got his first "stereo" forty years ago, it's been a major disappointment to see the advances in recording and (especially) delivery technology be negated by mastering for iPods ("loudness wars", if you like). I'm sure many members here have better rigs than I but the most obvious difference to me hi-res vs redbook is that hi-res makes my speakers sound so much better. So I can only assume it's the medium.

Again, my heartfelt thanks to Mr. Wilkes and Mr. Wilson for making this happen. I'm sure those two discs will live in my player for several months. Or until TAAB releases

 

[quattroatl]

pre-ordered!!! Can't wait!

 

[pklshpu]

Any rumors on PAAE or Trilogy release dates?
What would you say is more likely to happen: the project will end with WBMF or it will go beyond and reach Works I/II/Love Beach/In Concert ?

Here one reads that "Razor & Tie's full catalogue re-issue campaign" will continue with the releases of PAAE, Trilogy, BSS and WBMF.
The way they wrote it gives me some hope that the 6 albums are only step 1, and then the other albums will also be released.

Full catalogue would even include "Black Moon" and "In the Hot Seat", wouldn't it?
Not that I'm particularly anxious to hear exquisite verses (and music) like "What we need's a little redirection to find our blue lagoon" in 5.1

But I do want to see the rest of the '70s albums "honored". Hope someone else here likes (as I do) "Memoirs of an Officer and a Gentleman", "Canario", "So Far to Fall" and other "obscure" and underrated ELP.

 

[kap'n krunch]

Any rumors on PAAE or Trilogy release dates?
What would you say is more likely to happen: the project will end with WBMF or it will go beyond and reach Works I/II/Love Beach/In Concert ?

Here one reads that "Razor & Tie's full catalogue re-issue campaign" will continue with the releases of PAAE, Trilogy, BSS and WBMF.
The way they wrote it gives me some hope that the 6 albums are only step 1, and then the other albums will also be released.

Full catalogue would even include "Black Moon" and "In the Hot Seat", wouldn't it?
Not that I'm particularly anxious to hear exquisite verses (and music) like "What we need's a little redirection to find our blue lagoon" in 5.1

But I do want to see the rest of the '70s albums "honored". Hope someone else here likes (as I do) "Memoirs of an Officer and a Gentleman", "Canario", "So Far to Fall" and other "obscure" and underrated ELP.

I remember SW saying in a recent interview that he WASN'T gonna do "Works"...so my guess is that he's gonna go up to WBMF...which is a STRETCH!

 

[pklshpu]

Hey kap'n krunch!
I guess SW said (I believe in a post here) that he was not going to do "Works II" as well. That's a pity. SW work on this ELP project seem to me in some ways the one of an art "curator". As a curator he would give unity to the catalogue, even so there are not that good albums in it. I'm thinking now on what I believe is usually the museums/art expositions posture, in which is not uncommon to have the best works of an artist together in the same exposition with the worse. To me it is precisely that that gives you perspective about such artist.

So my first wish is that the entire catalogue were released multichannel (I don't know if that's possible in the case of "In Concert", for what I read on it), but the second wish (nearly tied with the first) is that SW were behind the rest of the catalogue. That would give aesthetic unity, and a signature to it (and quality of course).

PS: I still don't understand why not thinking about an alternative cover of "Love Beach". The album has a good "B" side and Canario, and it would not be beaten to death by criticism if it had a "sober" cover, like the Works pair. A fair re-release of it, maybe on multichannel, perhaps would make a point. People treat Love Beach as if it were a Rihanna album. I personally think Genesis got lows lower than "Love Beach", and that the entire Sex Pistols "oeuvre" is no match to "Love Beach".

To me, the real "Love Beach" is "In The Hot Seat". IMMO, "In That Hot Seat" is really a waste of time.

 

[kap'n krunch]

You know?
I never heard "Love Beach" until fairly recently and I think it's a VERY decent album (yes, the cover is HIDEOUS!)....I don't get all the flak it gets...they did what Ahmet told them to do....get in the studio and record...
I think it's MUCH better than "ITHS" (just figured out it's an anagram for "sh*t")

And while he's at it, Steven could have remixed the best post 70's ELP album...Emerson Lake and POWELL!!!!!! ..the best drummer they ever had!

 

[pklshpu]

I'm glad to learn I'm not the only one who thinks Love Beach is not that bad. It's the worse ELP album of the '70s, but beats the crap out of In The Hot Seat, and, anyway, ELP's "ITHS" (LOL) is better than other bands chef-d'oeuvre.

I have no doubt that ELPowell is the best 80's prog album! It's a jewel, and nobody talks about giving it a decent re-release, in multichannel maybe.
Don't get me wrong, I love all Genesis albums with the exception of some 2 or 3, and Yes's The Ladder is to me the best '90s prog album, but more or less while Genesis were on "She seems to have an invisible touch yeah" and Yes on "Love Will Find a Way", ELPowell were on epics like Miracle, The Score. I can't stand ELP's "valium-slow" rendition of "Touch and Go" live during the '90s (and to second you, Kap, Lake's Jabba the Hutt vocals on it LOL, "you jabba wabba wookie it's touch and go, ho ho ho"), but the original recording is a must.

To me the magic of ELPowell is that the guys were not trying to copy themselves, but still they had a tremendous musicianship.

 

[Quad Linda]

I like Works Vol 1, but thought that Vol2 and Love Beach were both a bore. Perhaps I need to give them a few more spins. To me, Black Moon was very good.

I suspect that ownership of Emerson, Lake & Powell masters may be by different folks. It IS a very good album:



I also loved Emerson's project after Emerson, Lake & Powell, To the Power of Three:

 

[pklshpu]

Hey Linda.
Being a jazz enthusiast as I know you are, I suppose you'll find some nice stuff on "Letters from the Front" from Love Beach, a track I always thought had a kind of jazzy mood/chords and it's a unique opportunity to hear Emo on a Fender Rhodes. Moreover, "Love At First Sight" has one of the most difficult piano parts on ELP's work (the beginning is from the C major Chopin Etude and the end piano lines are based on it). Hounorable Company is a second Abbadon's Bolero (and I wish there were more). "Prologue/Education", except for the strange lyrics perhaps, could be in any major ELP album without spoiling it.

I also think "To The Power Of Three" is an underrated album, though I have no hopes it'll ever have a "special" release. "Desde La Vida" is a true prog track, and "On My Way Home" is maybe the last track ever I find some of the old Emo "composer" around.

Someone should be smart enough to "buy" the entire ELP "related" catalogue in order to include ELPowell and "Three" in any ELP classic catalogue campaign.

 

[Quad Linda]

I'm a big classical fan,too and was a Chicago Symphony season subscriber for many years. ELP's classical leanings have excited me. I love Pictures, and their interpretations of Copland and Joplin on the Works albums.

Can't wait for Tarkus & Pictures in 5.1.