Future Quadio releases?

[fizzywiggs41]

I hope very much to see one of the six unreleased quads* that have been confirmed to be in the WEA vault by @ForagingRhino .


Apart from the five 'exclusive to Europe' Quadradiscs , which i think would make a great selling package...

I would love to have *Foghat Energised or *Joni Mitchell Miles Of Aisles... in the next package or at least within the year...and if Rod should finally agree...then for certain :
*Rod Stewart Atlantic Crossing .


Or at least one of the other three of six unreleased :

*James Taylor In The Pocket
*J Geils Band Bloodshot
*Dionne Warwick Track Of The Cat

 

[aoxomoxoa]

I just noticed that the alice cooper title is out of stock on rhino's website.
I held off on that one because i'm not a huge alice cooper fan but, I went ahead and grabbed a remaining copy on Amazon for $22. After streaming the album I found that it was pretty good.
I may also get the America and J. Giles titles as well. None of these are bands that I really normally listen to but I really enjoy the quad presentation.
I took a chance on Gordon Lightfoot and loved it.

 

[gvl_guy]

I just noticed that the alice cooper title is out of stock on rhino's website.
I held off on that one because i'm not a huge alice cooper fan but, I went ahead and grabbed a remaining copy on Amazon for $22. After streaming the album I found that it was pretty good.
I may also get the America and J. Giles titles as well. None of these are bands that I really normally listen to but I really enjoy the quad presentation.
I took a chance on Gordon Lightfoot and loved it.

I like the America one, but it as disappointed in the mix. Not Rhino's fault on that. It's the original. But a song like Tin Man, a big hit for them, has virtually nothing happening in the rear channels.

 

[Sal1950]

I took a chance on Gordon Lightfoot and loved it.

Welcome to QQ @aoxomoxoa !
Personally I found the Gordon disc one of the best sounding of the new Quadio discs.
Probably the result of the original tape being in great condition and having TOTL sound to begin with.

 

[Michael Marshall]

Welcome to the group, aoxomoxoa! What I have found to be true, along with many others in this forum, is that Rhino has done a fantastic job with their QUADIO series. So far, ALL of their releases have had multiple performance and sonic "surprises" and thus I can comfortably recommend each and every one of them regardless of your taste of music genre. Continue to watch this forum for title and release date info. (the next batch of 4 QUADIOS dropps in May 2024) as many times members will also post 10% discount codes for purchase through the RHINO store which basically covers the cost of postage in the United States. Cheers!

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[steelydave]

I like the America one, but it as disappointed in the mix. Not Rhino's fault on that. It's the original. But a song like Tin Man, a big hit for them, has virtually nothing happening in the rear channels.

I agree Tin Man isn't a quad showcase, but there's more than enough in the rears to make it satisfying for me:

When the song starts, it's only drums, bass, and one acoustic guitar - keeping in mind that this is a soft-rock trio and not side two of Tales from Topographic Oceans, there isn't much you could push to the rears without destroying the cohesion of the performance.

To me this is a considered mix, that uses the same technique that Greg Penny talked about in doing the Elton John Atmos mixes - start small and intimate and expand in size and scope as the song progresses to enhance the dramatic impact as it nears its conclusion. In the case of Tin Man, you get the echoed bell hits in the choruses as the first sign of rear channel activity, and then the backing vocals increasing in volume and intensity (as you can see from the waveforms) as the song progresses - by the end there are two different backing vocal melodies dueling in the rear speakers.

One suggestion I would make to anyone with the capability is that this quad transfer seems to be a flat transfer so compared to the more familiar stereo mix it has a little bit more bass and a little bit less treble. If you really want to make it sing (no pun intended) put in a bass shelf that takes out about 2dB at 60Hz, and then a wide boost of just 1-1.5dB around 8kHz. This really allows the textures of the vocal harmonies and the sparkle of the acoustic guitars - the two fortes of this group in my opinion - to really come to the fore, instead of being slightly obscured by the bass guitar as they are off the disc.

 

[JonUrban]

I always liked the CD-4 of Tin Man and used it as a demo back in the day, as the 'Miniature' starts out all around, then the song moves to the fronts, like a stereo track, only to have the rears jump in (as you can see in steelydave's wav screenshot above) which really shows the difference between listening in stereo and quad when the background vocals come from the rears on their own. To me it's good stuff! Remember this is a vintage QUAD mix and not a surround/atmos/5.1 Immersive mix. There really is a difference, but you had to be there!

 

[quicksrt]

It's nice the Rhino and the team likely have the next two or three installments already decided on what they would like to have out on a Quadio set of discs. For the really rare ones it just comes down to the approvals and when they come in.

So cryin' won't help you, and prayin' won't do you no good!

 

[Tribby2001]

 

[J. PUPSTER]

I'm wondering if we might also get Hot Tuna's Yellow Fever? I haven't heard it, but it was a quadradisc.

 

[ar surround]

I always liked the CD-4 of Tin Man and used it as a demo back in the day, as the 'Miniature' starts out all around, then the song moves to the fronts, like a stereo track, only to have the rears jump in (as you can see in steelydave's wav screenshot above) which really shows the difference between listening in stereo and quad when the background vocals come from the rears on their own. To me it's good stuff! Remember this is a vintage QUAD mix and not a surround/atmos/5.1 Immersive mix. There really is a difference, but you had to be there!

And that drives me crazy which is why I remixed it in DeMix Pro.

 

[fizzywiggs41]

Continuing with what we might expect in the next batch NUMBER 5.

Well I really think it would be a treat for any of these four ;

Jackson Browne Late For The Sky
Passport Handmade
James Gang Miami
Deaf School Second Honeymoon
Foghat Energized
Rod Stewart Atlantic Crossing
James Taylor Gorilla
James Taylor In The Pocket

And or...something like a newly minted Quad , such as ;

Alice Cooper Killer
Deep Purple In Rock
Black Sabbath (first)
Jackson Browne The Pretender


Any of the above in the next bundle , sometime in September/October 2024

BTW Love my Joni box set and.....
Thanks for noticing.

 

[mandrix]

I hope the next set (Quadio's or Atmos...) will be...well, a little more less eclectic. I do love the jazz titles though.
Anyone having contact with Jackson Browne please tell him we need a mch mix of The Pretender. Don't care what the label or rights are.

 

[Q-Eight]

And or...something like a newly minted Quad , such as ;

Alice Cooper Killer
Deep Purple In Rock
Black Sabbath (first)
Jackson Browne The Pretender

I agree with this. If they are willing to go back to the multitracks, let's do so with something hard-hitting, high-profile and FUN. I wouldn't say no to anything Sabbath or Purple. The Carly Simon's are a natch. Maybe more War? United Artists must've had a BUNCH of titles mixed and shelved - their foray into Quad did not produce much or last very long. Certainly their must've been albums waiting in the wings.

If *some* albums from UMG are available.... how about the Steve Millers? "Eagle" has been out of print for decades, and neither the Joker or Book of Dreams 5.1's ever came out - though Mr. Miller once told me that there were such things planned for them. I always assumed the Eagle 45th anniversary disc didn't sell as good as hoped.

There's SOOO much that could be done. I just hope these experiments can show the powers that be that there IS a market for this stuff and it's profitable. Those multitracks aren't going to be around forever. Get them digitized.... DO something with them and kick the entire record industry in the butt.

 

[mandrix]

I agree with this. If they are willing to go back to the multitracks, let's do so with something hard-hitting, high-profile and FUN. I wouldn't say no to anything Sabbath or Purple. The Carly Simon's are a natch. Maybe more War? United Artists must've had a BUNCH of titles mixed and shelved - their foray into Quad did not produce much or last very long. Certainly their must've been albums waiting in the wings.

If *some* albums from UMG are available.... how about the Steve Millers? "Eagle" has been out of print for decades, and neither the Joker or Book of Dreams 5.1's ever came out - though Mr. Miller once told me that there were such things planned for them. I always assumed the Eagle 45th anniversary disc didn't sell as good as hoped.

There's SOOO much that could be done. I just hope these experiments can show the powers that be that there IS a market for this stuff and it's profitable. Those multitracks aren't going to be around forever. Get them digitized.... DO something with them and kick the entire record industry in the butt.

Nail...on... the...head!
IOW, labels, get it while you can get it, and let us get it while we're still above the grass.

 

[Sal1950]

Eagles - On The Border
Lets go back to the masters and give this killer album
the digital surround remaster it deserves.
Damn I miss Glenn

 

[4-earredwonder]

Eagles - On The Border
Lets go back to the masters and give this killer album
the digital surround remaster it deserves.
Damn I miss Glenn

Wouldn't be a bit surprised, Sal, if down the road Rhino graced us with a BD~A 192/24 Eagle Box set....

After all, neither the fans nor the multitrack masters are getting any younger ..........

 

[gvl_guy]

Continuing with what we might expect in the next batch NUMBER 5.

Well I really think it would be a treat for any of these four ;

Jackson Browne Late For The Sky
Passport Handmade
James Gang Miami
Deaf School Second Honeymoon
Foghat Energized
Rod Stewart Atlantic Crossing
James Taylor Gorilla
James Taylor In The Pocket

And or...something like a newly minted Quad , such as ;

Alice Cooper Killer
Deep Purple In Rock
Black Sabbath (first)
Jackson Browne The Pretender


Any of the above in the next bundle , sometime in September/October 2024

BTW Love my Joni box set and.....
Thanks for noticing.

I believe Steve confirmed they have not found Passport in any vault.

 

[Quad Linda]

Passport's Hand Made is a KILLER ALBUM w/a GREAT QUAD MIX!!!

"We gotta keep searchin', searchin'" - Del Shannon

 

[fizzywiggs41]

Passport's Hand Made is a KILLER ALBUM w/a GREAT QUAD MIX!!!

"We gotta keep searchin', searchin'" - Del Shannon

What she said, and Del.

It most certainly was made , just gotta keep looking . I'm certainly not giving up hope that we will see it's Quadio release one day.

"It's always somewhere you didn't look". Just misplaced or temporarily lost.