HDMI isilencer

[ethiessen1]

Same mis-led people who hear worlds of difference in expensive power cords.
If your told you'll hear it, you just might, if you "believe"

Well if someone doesn't understand that reproduced sound is system and room dependent and that we all don't have equal levels of audible cognition, then purely relying on measurements might suffice. However, for someone to categorically state that because they can't hear something means nobody can is bs.

Go back to the first generation of cd players and cds. "Perfect sound forever" based on the measurements yet acoustic instruments (especially piano) sounded horrible compared to good quality analog (or real pianos). Look at the major recording studios that have upgraded the quality of their cables and power supplies and tell them they can't hear a difference...

 

[barfle]

You know, there’s a fair amount of overkill in my setup. My analog cables are all S-video cables with gold connectors. I can’t hear the difference, unless a corroded connection causes noise or other failures.

I use PS Audio Power Ports for the outlets my hear is plugged into. I definitely don’t hear the difference, but I’ve never had one fail like some of the hardware store outlets have.

I’m still not sure what I could do to prevent HDMI cable failures. I’ve had at least three of them simply stop working since I built my room, and they are a bitch to thread through the loom.

If I have the choice of using analog or digital connections, it’s analog every time, but I still enjoy digital media - I can rarely tell the difference.

If you have a geegaw that makes you happy, then I’m happy for you. I might not be persuaded to buy one, but don’t consider that a condemnation of your choice. It’s just one I wouldn’t make.

 

[4-earredwonder]

There are zero technical reasons for what it is believed to be doing, if people waste money on cloud cuckoo-land things like this fair enough, its their money, but remember the old saying "A fool and his money are easily parted"

Dunc......if you ever saw the amount of tweaks I love and cherish and every time I share them on this forum I get CRUCIFIED ...colour me a member of the

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[jaybird100]

There are zero technical reasons for what it is believed to be doing, if people waste money on cloud cuckoo-land things like this fair enough, its their money, but remember the old saying "A fool and his money are easily parted"

"If you expect to hear a difference, you will, whether it's real or not."

 

[CINERAMAX]

Kaleidescape offers better clocked audio than the Oppo, perhaps is the lack of physical media spinning, but there is definitely better presentation cohesiveness in the surrounds.

 

[Sal1950]

Kaleidescape offers better clocked audio than the Oppo, perhaps is the lack of physical media spinning, but there is definitely better presentation cohesiveness in the surrounds.

Un hun.

 

[LuvMyQuad]

Kaleidescape offers better clocked audio than the Oppo, perhaps is the lack of physical media spinning, but there is definitely better presentation cohesiveness in the surrounds.

Thats a movie streamer isnt it? What? No nonsense about better picture quality?

 

[Sal1950]

Thats a movie streamer isnt it? What? No nonsense about better picture quality?

LOL... Be careful, Unlike other streamers, Kaleidescape does stream completely uncompressed files said to be the equal of 4k Bluray or whatever is the best available at the time. It requires very dedicated gear and is quite expensive. If your a huge home theater movie buff, worth the cost I guess.

 

[mandrix]

Well I'm never going to tell anyone they don't need good cables. Some other devices...not so much.

Proper wiring is necessary though: For example you don't run unshielded speaker wire across a room to your subs (I use shielded RCA cable/connectors)
But it doesn't take hundreds of dollars for short inter connects. Being a budget audiophile I go with "what works" that doesn't break the bank.
You may disagree and want/need better than I buy. That's fine. If you feel you need to add another device in the signal chain to "make it more better" then fine. Don't see it personally.

Most of my HDMI cable's are 3-9 ft long and all are "rated" for 8K. None are especially expensive. I've found the Monoprice cables quite sufficient. Most of my older HDMI cables went in the trash.

The exception is I have one 20 ft "extra heavy duty" HDMI cable that runs to a second TV across the room, and it has a shorter cable connected on either end where the AVR and TV are plugged in. The HDMI to HDMI female/female connectors I bought have been working good for that. VCELINK is the brand name and about $7/pair on the Amazon. The shorter cables on either end are less bulky and don't put a strain on the connectors at the AVR & TV.

If there's a weak link it may turn out to be my inexpensive 5 in/1 out HDMI switch, but so far it's doing fine passing 4K. We'll see how long it holds up.

 

[LuvMyQuad]

LOL... Be careful, Unlike other streamers, Kaleidescape does stream completely uncompressed files said to be the equal of 4k Bluray or whatever is the best available at the time. It requires very dedicated gear and is quite expensive. If your a huge home theater movie buff, worth the cost I guess.

Sounds nice. I dont get serious about watching movies like i do about listening to audio. And if its all you say, it probably does have great picture quality.

But Im sure that HDMI Isilencer would improve on it .... no???

 

[barfle]

Well I'm never going to tell anyone they don't need good cables. Some other devices...not so much.

Proper wiring is necessary though: For example you don't run unshielded speaker wire across a room to your subs (I use shielded RCA cable/connectors)
But it doesn't take hundreds of dollars for short inter connects. Being a budget audiophile I go with "what works" that doesn't break the bank.
You may disagree and want/need better than I buy. That's fine. If you feel you need to add another device in the signal chain to "make it more better" then fine. Don't see it personally.

Most of my HDMI cable's are 3-9 ft long and all are "rated" for 8K. None are especially expensive. I've found the Monoprice cables quite sufficient. Most of my older HDMI cables went in the trash.

The exception is I have one 20 ft "extra heavy duty" HDMI cable that runs to a second TV across the room, and it has a shorter cable connected on either end where the AVR and TV are plugged in. The HDMI to HDMI female/female connectors I bought have been working good for that. VCELINK is the brand name and about $7/pair on the Amazon. The shorter cables on either end are less bulky and don't put a strain on the connectors at the AVR & TV.

If there's a weak link it may turn out to be my inexpensive 5 in/1 out HDMI switch, but so far it's doing fine passing 4K. We'll see how long it holds up.

Indeed, good cables are important, but it’s easy to go way beyond what makes sense. I’ll go with gold-plated pins every time, just because I had a corroded connector 20 years ago. Decent shielding and that’s all that makes sense.

I’ve had a few HDMI cables crap out on me - don’t know why, although the fact that some of them have ends in the heated room and runs through an unheated crawlspace might factor in, but that’s not where all the problems were.

 

[Steve Bruzonsky]

Kaleidescape offers better clocked audio than the Oppo, perhaps is the lack of physical media spinning, but there is definitely better presentation cohesiveness in the surrounds.

Some folks don't hear you. Can you make it louder?

 

[par4ken]

If the device makes a measurable improvement then it might be worthwhile whether you can actually hear the difference or not. It is totally wrong to condemn such a product that has such technical evidence behind it! The question is it worth the money (to you). To many audiophiles the answer would be yes; better to spend the money for the peace of mind of knowing that the digital chain is rock solid.

As for claims that it actually makes an audible improvement might be somewhat debatable. If the audiophile believes it does improve the sound I for one will not argue with him. Whether the improvement is imaginary or real is of little importance. It is more about how it makes the purchaser feel.

The "snake oil" criticism is only valid if there is no measurable evidence.

 

[Sal1950]

I’ve had a few HDMI cables crap out on me - don’t know why, although the fact that some of them have ends in the heated room and runs through an unheated crawlspace might factor in, but that’s not where all the problems were.

The only HDMI cable I had fail was a Monoprice 50' active-optical that took a lightning hit.
Monoprice replaced it under warranty with no questions asked. (thankfully LOL)

The "snake oil" criticism is only valid if there is no measurable evidence.

Lots of differences are easily measurable but to be proven audible needs bias controlled DBT with a large section of the populace tested. Claims of "I heard it, so it is so" are totally without value unless given properly controlled listening tests.

 

[mandrix]

Since this thread is getting quite long now....can anyone tell me exactly what this device does?
"makes video and audio better"
But what does it do? How does it do it?
If it's that good then it should be patented and we should be told what it actually does instead of claims to "make things sound and look better"?

I'm not knocking you if you bought it. That's beside the point, you spend your money as you please.

Sort of reminds me of the company that built a table saw that would immediately stop once someone's finger or body part engaged the blade. Yeah it works, no doubt. But at much added cost. Anyone can buy one and figure out how it's made.

So what's the secret sauce here?

 

[par4ken]

Since this thread is getting quite long now....can anyone tell me exactly what this device does?
"makes video and audio better"
But what does it do? How does it do it?
If it's that good then it should be patented and we should be told what it actually does instead of claims to "make things sound and look better"?

I'm not knocking you if you bought it. That's beside the point, you spend your money as you please.

Sort of reminds me of the company that built a table saw that would immediately stop once someone's finger or body part engaged the blade. Yeah it works, no doubt. But at much added cost. Anyone can buy one and figure out how it's made.

So what's the secret sauce here?

It reduces "jitter". Jump back to the first post.

 

[mandrix]

It reduces "jitter". Jump back to the first post.

OK first post says nothing about jitter....second post mentions jitter but doesn't say the device claims to make it better.

 

[LuvMyQuad]

From music direct

Plug the iFi HDMI iSilencer into the HDMI Input of Your Source Device and Experience Finer Visual Details and Lower Overall System Noise: Device Supports Ultra HD HDR 8K/60Hz and 4K/120Hz​

Tame the noise stemming from the HDMI connections in your system with the iFi HDMI iSilencer. Able to support Ultra HD HDR 8K/60Hz and 4K/120Hz, and compatible with HDMI 2.1 and all prior versions, this modest device features Active Noise Cancellation2 technology that reduces overall system noise and allows you to enjoy more of what you’re watching and hearing.

True to its Silent Power Series badging, iSilencer comes with jitter elimination technology to dramatically enhance video details amid dark environments — all the while lessening background distortion. And because iSilencer incorporates surge protection via a Transient Voltage Suppressor (TVS), it gives you peace of mind when it comes to potential power surges and voltage transients.

Simply plug iSilencer into your source device and you’ll immediately experience a difference. Music Direct Guaranteed.

 

[mandrix]

From music direct

Plug the iFi HDMI iSilencer into the HDMI Input of Your Source Device and Experience Finer Visual Details and Lower Overall System Noise: Device Supports Ultra HD HDR 8K/60Hz and 4K/120Hz​

Tame the noise stemming from the HDMI connections in your system with the iFi HDMI iSilencer. Able to support Ultra HD HDR 8K/60Hz and 4K/120Hz, and compatible with HDMI 2.1 and all prior versions, this modest device features Active Noise Cancellation2 technology that reduces overall system noise and allows you to enjoy more of what you’re watching and hearing.

True to its Silent Power Series badging, iSilencer comes with jitter elimination technology to dramatically enhance video details amid dark environments — all the while lessening background distortion. And because iSilencer incorporates surge protection via a Transient Voltage Suppressor (TVS), it gives you peace of mind when it comes to potential power surges and voltage transients.

Simply plug iSilencer into your source device and you’ll immediately experience a difference. Music Direct Guaranteed.

OK. I don't have those alleged problems with my gear that I'm aware of.
Still doesn't explain how it reduces jitter, is my point.

 

[mandrix]

If it's intercepting the signal and reprocessing, I'd like to know what it is actually doing, is all.
Well not going to beat a dead horse here, since apparently no one knows what is actually happening or what sort of circuit is involved.