This is with their HDMI (audio only) output and they stated on their Website (Still may be there. I haven’t looked), one may or may not hear a difference. I never did when comparing the two outputs into my AVR.When Oppo sold the 205 4k universal player, they advertised that its HDMI output was lower jitter (than other players with HDMI out on the market). I betcha didn't know that?