Jethro Tull 5.1 (“Bursting Out” box set with Steven Wilson 5.1 mixes out in June 2024!)

[gorman]

I'm fully in my "why were the better albums done in 5.1, I'll never hear them in Atmos in my lifetime" period.

 

[esimms86]

Living In The Past-Blu-Ray dance. Was my first Tull album with Thick As A Brick.

So you came to Tull relatively late. I guess you’re younger than I am.

 

[JohnN]

So you came to Tull relatively late. I guess you’re younger than I am.

At 16, free tickets for some hippie band. My first and favourite Tull concert. June 4, 1972

Maple Leaf Gardens Toronto, Canada
Thick As A Brick Pt.1/ Flute Solo (incl. God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, Bourée (fragment))/ Thick As A Brick Pt.1 contd./ News & Weather/ Thick As A Brick Pt.2/ Drum Solo/ '218 Babies'/ Thick As A Brick Pt.2 contd., Cross-Eyed Mary, A New Day Yesterday, Aqualung, Wind-Up/Guitar Solo/Locomotive Breath/Hard-Headed English General, Wind-Up (reprise)
Set lists of Jethro Tull live concerts in 1972, at the Ministry Of Information

 

[esimms86]

At 16, free tickets for some hippie band. My first and favourite Tull concert. June 4, 1972

Maple Leaf Gardens Toronto, Canada
Thick As A Brick Pt.1/ Flute Solo (incl. God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, Bourée (fragment))/ Thick As A Brick Pt.1 contd./ News & Weather/ Thick As A Brick Pt.2/ Drum Solo/ '218 Babies'/ Thick As A Brick Pt.2 contd., Cross-Eyed Mary, A New Day Yesterday, Aqualung, Wind-Up/Guitar Solo/Locomotive Breath/Hard-Headed English General, Wind-Up (reprise)
Set lists of Jethro Tull live concerts in 1972, at the Ministry Of Information

So you were 16 when I was 21.

The irony, which you are clearly aware of, is that Ian hated the hippie drug culture and didn’t count himself as one of them.

 

[JohnN]

So you were 16 when I was 21.

The irony, which you are clearly aware of, is that Ian hated the hippie drug culture and didn’t count himself as one of them.

Parents first description. +Looked like hippies stormed the stage for Thick As A Brick. I was almost put off by the Jethro Tull name. Heard some Aqualung tracks on FM radio before the concert sold me.

 

[esimms86]

Parents first description. +Looked like hippies stormed the stage for Thick As A Brick. I was almost put off by the Jethro Tull name. Heard some Aqualung tracks on FM radio before the concert sold me.

Of course, all (or most) of their fans back then thought that they were hippies.

 

[JohnN]

Of course, all (or most) of their fans back then thought that they were hippies.

Now & then just weirdos.
Ian Anderson discusses the problems of looking like a weirdo
ARTICLE ABOUT Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull) FROM New Musical Express, November 1, 1969

 

[Bill B]

Of course, all (or most) of their fans back then thought that they were hippies.

And then in 1989 "everyone" decided that they were a heavy metal band and not a hippy band after all... for some reason.

 

[esimms86]

Now & then just weirdos.
Ian Anderson discusses the problems of looking like a weirdo
ARTICLE ABOUT Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull) FROM New Musical Express, November 1, 1969

Thanks for the article and I totally get it but I do find him to be, perhaps, just so slightly disingenuous. That is to say that he and the band(the late Glenn Cornick aside) presented themselves visually as hippie outsiders, played hippie venues and, therefore, ended up making a very nice living via the patronage of those very same hippies. In other words, they knew exactly how they were presenting and they knew exactly why these particular people were coming to see them, being on the same bill as, say, Led Zeppelin and such. Some folks put on a suit to go to work and Ian, alternatively, dresses like Aqualung. As is his right.

But really though, it’s all about being in show business, isn’t it? Ask KISS or ABBA or the Motown guy or girl groups or Alice Cooper or Arthur Brown(as in The Crazy World Of). I have no substantive issues with Ian Anderson and I enjoy his music and I never for even a minute believed that the guy onstage was who he really was. OTOH, my communal feelings towards being part of that young, weed smoking audience are another thing entirely.

 

[JohnN]

if accurate, this looks tasty!

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/thre...e-past-steven-wilson-remix-july-2025.1219076/

I'll confirm Blu-ray.

 

[scooob]

I'll confirm Blu-ray.

[sigh] - I suppose I'll have to buy this, even though I already have 90% of it from the previous boxset releases, and what's new is mostly just updated mixes, along with lossless 5.1 that I probably won't be able to tell much difference from the previous DVD versions. I just hope it's priced reasonably, i.e. much cheaper than the Broadsword box, or even the Bursting Out reissue.

 

[LuvMyQuad]

[sigh] - I suppose I'll have to buy this, even though I already have 90% of it from the previous boxset releases, and what's new is mostly just updated mixes, along with lossless 5.1 that I probably won't be able to tell much difference from the previous DVD versions. I just hope it's priced reasonably, i.e. much cheaper than the Broadsword box, or even the Bursting Out reissue.

How do you know its going to be lossless? The description just says DTS.

 

[scooob]

How do you know its going to be lossless? The description just says DTS.

To put lossy surround on a Blu-ray would make no sense at all. If they're dumb enough to do that, then I won't buy it, regardless of price point.

@JohnN, perhaps you can confirm the 5.1 format & resolution on the Blu-ray?

 

[JohnN]

To put lossy surround on a Blu-ray would make no sense at all. If they're dumb enough to do that, then I won't buy it, regardless of price point.

@JohnN, perhaps you can confirm the 5.1 format & resolution on the Blu-ray?

I have no details yet. Just we're doing a Blu-ray would I be interested in doing what I do...

 

[srbjab]

I'd much rather spend my limited bucks on at least a few of the remaining studio catalog titles before this, but it's early days. I'll wait to see more details and whether Under Wraps or Crest Of A Knave get announced for later this year. It would be a shame if they include a blu-ray with no Atmos mixes at this point.

 

[JohnN]

Still...Living In The Past - 5CD + Blu Ray

Still...Living In The Past - 5CD + Blu Ray

 

[srbjab]

Wow - almost $80 bucks, not including shipping, and no Atmos mixes. I'm thinking, no sale, particularly if you've already bought most everything else up to this point.

 

[DuncanS]

I'll get it, as it was the first Tull LP that I got, never bought it on CD.

 

[LuvMyQuad]

With respect to the Atmos vs non Atmos thing, i have mixed feelings. Some of you seem to have an Atmos or nothing mentality. Its your choice to feel that way, of course. But for me Atmos vs 5.1 is not all that.

A well done 5.1 mix beats out a meh Atmos mix every time. I can count on one hand (and still hold a spleef) the number of Atmos titles i have that actually provide true improvement over a 5.1 from the non Atmos years. So im not real gung ho to replace everything. The difference between previously released 5.1 and recently released Atmos of the same material is often a letdown for me. The improvement is often minimal and what was good placement in 5.1 can disappear.

Placing unrealistic discrete sound in height channels does nothing for me. These arent movies we are playing. I dont need stuff up there just because we can do it or because its cool, any more tha i need old school quad ping pong effects. Although, i agree, its cool.

I want to be clear, im talking about 5.1 from the era before Atmos. The 5.1 stuff that comes with new Atmos releases seems like an afterthought in a lot of cases, that is, if a dedecated 5.1 is even included at all.

That being said, height info used to reinforce and emphasize whats goung on in the mains can be very impresseve. Very, very impressive.

My best surround experiences do include some Atmos releases, there are also a lot of 5.1 in that bag. There is even some quad.

The best thing about Atmos is it produces more surround to enjoy. Surround that hasnt already been released.

For a stellar surround release, it dosent have to be Atmos. It just has to be well done.

YMMV

 

[marpow]

With respect to the Atmos vs non Atmos thing, i have mixed feelings. Some of you seem to have an Atmos or nothing mentality. Its your choice to feel that way, of course. But for me Atmos vs 5.1 is not all that.

A well done 5.1 mix beats out a meh Atmos mix every time. I can count on one hand (and still hold a spleef) the number of Atmos titles i have that actually provide true improvement over a 5.1 from the non Atmos years. So im not real gung ho to replace everything. The difference between previously released 5.1 and recently released Atmos of the same material is often a letdown for me. The improvement is often minimal and what was good placement in 5.1 can disappear.

Placing unrealistic discrete sound in height channels does nothing for me. These arent movies we are playing. I dont need stuff up there just because we can do it or because its cool, any more tha i need old school quad ping pong effects. Although, i agree, its cool.

I want to be clear, im talking about 5.1 from the era before Atmos. The 5.1 stuff that comes with new Atmos releases seems like an afterthought in a lot of cases, that is, if a dedecated 5.1 is even included at all.

That being said, height info used to reinforce and emphasize whats goung on in the mains can be very impresseve. Very, very impressive.

My best surround experiences do include some Atmos releases, there are also a lot of 5.1 in that bag. There is even some quad.

The best thing about Atmos is it produces more surround to enjoy. Surround that hasnt already been released.

For a stellar surround release, it dosent have to be Atmos. It just has to be well done.

YMMV

I agree with you 100%.
Many Atmos titles I listen, and think, this isn't that good, then I listen to the same in 5.1 and think, if you are a person that does not have Atmos you are not missing anything at all.
Most recent, Pearl Jam's-Dark Matter-the 5.1 is the way to go.
I am lucky enough to have a 4 channel amp for my 4 heights, it has VU meters for activity but also has a signal strength light that when the Atmos signal is strong the light is on. I am able also to turn off all channels except the 4 heights, and sometimes, there is barely nothing at the top, but the foundation is highly active.
I feel lucky enough to like music first and how it is delivered second, I listen to stereo daily.