Jethro Tull's Thick As A Brick Stereo/5.1 remix will be reissued in October 2022

[Quadzilla]

And now the amazon price is even worse... @:

The German Amazon site has raised the price almost 6 Euros since I preordered. Gotta love a locked-in price.

 

[SMS]

This is disappointing on so many levels. The price is too high, and there is a lack of a lossless hi-res format. I am really hoping SW (and Neil) can work their magic a second time and convince the record execs to author a DVDA.

I totally agree with fredblue that a CD plus hybrid DVD-A/V satisfies everyone. The average consumer gets to listen to both the CD and DTS mix without a DVDA player, and the record company doesn't need to pay for expensive Bluray authoring and production.

Could it simply be that the majority of authoring houses simply don't know how to author a hybrid DVD-V/A and the record execs don't know enough to ask them for learn how? It seems that Neil/Opus does the majority of them.

 

[Quadzilla]

Could it simply be that the majority of authoring houses simply don't know how to author a hybrid DVD-V/A and the record execs don't know enough to ask them for learn how? It seems that Neil/Opus does the majority of them.

A VERY simple solution is to release hybrid multichannel SACDs ... then we wouldn't need a friggin' monitor to play music.

 

[zfox]

Could it simply be that the majority of authoring houses simply don't know how to author a hybrid DVD-V/A and the record execs don't know enough to ask them for learn how? It seems that Neil/Opus does the majority of them.

This can be quite simple. They want to have something more to sell in the future (10 years maybe?), a lossless multichannel version.

 

[fredblue]

A VERY simple solution is to release hybrid multichannel SACDs ... then we wouldn't need a friggin' monitor to play music.

it would.. but highly unlikely now, I reckon.

SACD now seems to be the sole preserve of audiophiles & classical-music lovers the world over (thats long been the case though, the rock/pop/jazz surround SACD releases were seemingly just a blip!) and stereo-loving Japanese buyers.

the former mostly apparently eschew multichannel outright as its just a gimmick, their purist sensibilities can't abide surround, etc.. the latter partly because their homes are generally too modest to accommodate a room full of speakers (which may go some way to explaining why Warner haven't continued to re-release their old OOP DVD-A 5.1 mixes on M/C SACD!?).. god knows!?

blah.

 

[fredblue]

This can be quite simple. They want to have something more to sell in the future (10 years maybe?), a lossless multichannel version.

could be.. but I don't see a lot of these albums being re-released in physical disc form again anytime soon, if ever.. so they'd only re-appear as Hi-Rez downloads -- which also seems rather unlikely.

I have a (bad) feeling that this round of 5.1 music releases might mark the start of the last gasp of multichannel music and we might well be looking back on these times as the "good old days" (as patchy and indifferent as they may seem now, compared to the initial point when SACD & DVDA came along and were both vying to be top dog)..

... say 10 years down the line.. who will care, or be around to care enough, to release a 50th anniversary set with Hi-Rez surround of something like "Thick As A Brick"..!?

all the more reason why the labels should get it right with these things -- NOW.

 

[rtbluray]

This is disappointing on so many levels. The price is too high, and there is a lack of a lossless hi-res format. I am really hoping SW (and Neil) can work their magic a second time and convince the record execs to author a DVDA.

I totally agree with fredblue that a CD plus hybrid DVD-A/V satisfies everyone. The average consumer gets to listen to both the CD and DTS mix without a DVDA player, and the record company doesn't need to pay for expensive Bluray authoring and production.

Could it simply be that the majority of authoring houses simply don't know how to author a hybrid DVD-V/A and the record execs don't know enough to ask them for learn how? It seems that Neil/Opus does the majority of them.

The only other major DVD-A authoring house I know of is Craigman Digital.
They were the primary authoring house for all of the Warners DVD-Audio releases I have, and their latest work were the Moving Pictures and Sector DVD-As for RUSH.

I think the main reason we won't get DVD-A from EMI (unless a SW/NW miracle comes through yet again) is simply that EMI have never released much DVD-A at all! The vast majority of their releases are SACD and DVD-V (with a few Blu-Rays also making their way out recently too).
Their main authoring house, Isonic (headed by former Gentle Giant bass player Ray Shulman) haven't authored any DVD-As to my knowledge. Their work has strictly been in the range of DVD-V and (recently) Blu-Ray, so I can't imagine much of a change now.

The only one we have on our side is Neil...

 

[rtbluray]

Then again it's also an artist issue too when you have Ian Anderson saying something like this:

On page 32 of the October, 2012 issue of Sound + Vision magazine, Ian Anderson (of Jethro Tull Fame) states that a decent MP3 is pretty good, especially compared to vinyl records and cassettes.

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=296618

As Tristero on that forum said after:

First lossy audio on the TaaB reissue, now this. He's dead to me.

 

[fredblue]

The only other major DVD-A authoring house I know of is Craigman Digital.
They were the primary authoring house for all of the Warners DVD-Audio releases I have, and their latest work were the Moving Pictures and Sector DVD-As for RUSH.

I think the main reason we won't get DVD-A from EMI (unless a SW/NW miracle comes through yet again) is simply that EMI have never released much DVD-A at all! The vast majority of their releases are SACD and DVD-V (with a few Blu-Rays also making their way out recently too).
Their main authoring house, Isonic (headed by former Gentle Giant bass player Ray Shulman) haven't authored any DVD-As to my knowledge. Their work has strictly been in the range of DVD-V and (recently) Blu-Ray, so I can't imagine much of a change now.

The only one we have on our side is Neil...

EMI released a good few DVD-A's back in the day..

..there was a Ravel Bolero I used to own, two Andre Previn DVDAs and the Deep Purple Concerto DVDA..

..plus all their Signature Surround DVDAs including Everclear, Medeski/Martin/Wood, 2 x Bowie Live's, The Thrills, 2 x Simple Minds, N.E.R.D., Cassandra Wilson, Megadeth, Iron Maiden.. and the Virgin DVD-A of Bryan Ferry's "Frantic" was also an EMI imprint.

 

[fredblue]

here's 10 EMI Classics DVD-Audio titles

http://www.amazon.co.uk/EMI-Classic...=n:350503011,p_n_binding_browse-bin:382544011

Edit: I take that back, some are genuine DVD-Audio, others DVD-V..!

 

[fredblue]

Then again it's also an artist issue too when you have Ian Anderson saying something like this:

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=296618

As Tristero on that forum said after:

bit drastic of that Tristero character!

I'd hate to think what they might do to someone who really crossed them..!!

 

[SMS]

A VERY simple solution is to release hybrid multichannel SACDs ... then we wouldn't need a friggin' monitor to play music.

Actually, no, I don't think this is a simple solution because many people don't have access to an SACD player to play the multi-channel content. Record companies never really jumped on the SACD bandwagon because many people didn't own the necessary hardware. That is why a DVD-A/V is so perfect. Everyone has a DVD or Bluray player than can play the DTS track, and the audiophile is happy because they own a player that can access the DVD-A content. Production costs are also inexpensive. I expect SACDs are more costly to produce. Everyone should be happy with a DVD-A/V.

For the record, I really like SACDs for the reason you specified, but I also find I can play most DVDAs without turning on the projector. All the ones that Neil authored play by throwing the disk in the tray and hitting play.

 

[0tto]

could be EMI tries to position themselves as audiophile's label? lately they had lots of pretentious
but sloppy combined releases with price which seems doesn't have any logic or sense regarding
of formats/quality/amount behind it.
i'm pretty much doubt, they will be in business in 10 years from now, with such marketing model.

 

[fredblue]

could be EMI tries to position themselves as audiophile's label? lately they had lots of pretentious
but sloppy combined releases with price which seems doesn't have any logic or sense regarding
of formats/quality/amount behind it.
i'm pretty much doubt, they will be in business in 10 years from now, with such marketing model.

I agree with you Otto, EMI have certainly released several confusingly different configurations
to package their few surround music releases.

1.) Aqualung/Pink Floyd = Big box + blu-ray..
2.) Ziggy 40th/10 Years After = Vinyl + DVD-V...
3.) Deep Purple/Barclay James Harvest/Gentle Giant/ELO/TAAB2 = CD + DVD-V.

The most consistent presentation decision & format has been the CD + DVD-V and an ongoing trend towards lossy DTS unless it's in a big box (with a load of other detritus!).

I don't think EMI have as many as 10 years left in them, to be honest.

 

[Quad Linda]

EMI is in the process of being bought by Universal. Last I heard, they were wrangling with regulators for approval.

 

[0tto]

EMI is in the process of being bought by Universal. Last I heard, they were wrangling with regulators for approval.

i don't think that UMG looking to dissolve EMI as such. most likely they will retain some sort of independence
in the frame corporate structure. anyway someone should manage all their archives and legacy. the question
is, would be corporate office happy with present direction of the EMI. they lately doing lot but i don't believe
that their products, as they offer it, flys from shelves and generates any significant financial gain.

 

[tomwrock]

Amazon.com has dropped its price for this to $43.60. I'm guessing it will drop more before the release date.

 

[rtbluray]

Amazon.com has dropped its price for this to $43.60. I'm guessing it will drop more before the release date.

If it gets down to $35, I'm in!

 

[Pockets17red]

If it gets down to $35, I'm in!

It should since 2 of the domestic online shops I frequent have it for between $33.5 and $35.00 including shipping.

 

[tomwrock]

It should since 2 of the domestic online shops I frequent have it for between $33.5 and $35.00 including shipping.

Amazon.com is now listing this for $34.49.