I guess all the missing media at BestBuy, WalMart, etc means nothing?1. What death? Physical media is not ceasing to be released.
I guess all the missing media at BestBuy, WalMart, etc means nothing?1. What death? Physical media is not ceasing to be released.
Bob Carver is the disruptor here. I have a Carver amp that is 520 watts per channel and only weighes about 25 pounds.Back in the day there was an opinion that espoused if all else is equal, buy the heavier component, especially when it came to power amplifiers. More killer, less filler I guess. A lot of things have changed since then. More use of plastics and switching power supplies are maybe the biggest changes.
Diminishing number of vendors and/or centralization does not mean "death".I guess all the missing media at BestBuy, WalMart, etc means nothing?
I used to have the panasonic player, it doesn’t play dvd-a or sacdHi all, I own the Sony X800M2. Bought this after my first generation died.
I just picked up a Panasonic dmp- bd84p-k.
Not sure about burned discs yet, but it plays all formats: Blu ray, DVD (A), CD and SACD!
$80!...
Maybe not, but the declining sales, lowest since the CD was introduced, certainly does.Diminishing number of vendors and/or centralization does not mean "death".
Sorry, you guys may be right...I will confirm tonight.No it doesn't...
Panasonic gave me an DMP-BD84P-K to test years ago. It can however play the CD layer of 'store bought' SACD's and the DVD-V segments of 'store bought' DVD-Audio discs. Plus it didn't offer any networking capabilities!
They get arthritic in their old age, just like us.But I keep them plugged in and periodically use them to "keep them going". I had one that the disc drawer would not open until it had been plugged in a day or so but works fine now. So, leaving them in a box in the closet I'm thinking might not be a viable strategy? I have no clue but the argument is some components like to see some power, sort of like batteries or they degrade faster.
There might be some truth (from a technical standpoint) to this, it would depend entirely on the specific ROM (memory) being used to store the player's operating system. In theory these hardware memory chips should hold their data for a very long time before degradation, but thinking along the lines of your post I wonder if powering the spare device every few years helps to 're-energize' the ROM and ensure the written data is retained. I know there's specific SSD memory types (QLC iirc) that require periodic power to run their data integrity checks and resolve issues with corrupt data lost over time as the written bits weaken.But I keep them plugged in and periodically use them to "keep them going". I had one that the disc drawer would not open until it had been plugged in a day or so but works fine now. So, leaving them in a box in the closet I'm thinking might not be a viable strategy? I have no clue but the argument is some components like to see some power, sort of like batteries or they degrade faster.
A friend just had his Blu-ray player die and bought a new one at Best Buy, where he was told that once they run out of their stock they won't even be selling the hardware.I guess all the missing media at BestBuy, WalMart, etc means nothing?
A Panasonic plays SACD's? Really?Hi all, I own the Sony X800M2. Bought this after my first generation died.
I just picked up a Panasonic dmp- bd84p-k.
Not sure about burned discs yet, but it plays all formats: Blu ray, DVD (A), CD and SACD!
$80!...
I don't think I'd believe that, sounds more like a sales line, "better get em while you can!, etc".A friend just had his Blu-ray player die and bought a new one at Best Buy, where he was told that once they run out of their stock they won't even be selling the hardware.
Are you sure the idea isn't they won't STOCK them anymore, but still sell them online?A friend just had his Blu-ray player die and bought a new one at Best Buy, where he was told that once they run out of their stock they won't even be selling the hardware.
.
I've seen statements about the opposite, sales of DVD and Blu Ray are going up. Streaming services were initially very cheap and drove people away from physical optical media. But the services have now all put their prices up so much, especially if you want 4K and no adverts, that physical optical media for films is price attractive again. Plus people are finding out that content comes and goes on streaming services so you can't always watch it again, whereas you can with physical media.1. What death? Physical media is not ceasing to be released. There's been FUD circulating over the last several months regarding a Sony announcement, but that had to do with CD-R, DVD-R, and BD-R *burnable* media, not physical music and movie releases.
2. This may hold true for rank-and-file players, but tends not to be the case for audiophile and/or higher-end devices. If there is indeed a phaseout, that will trigger higher prices on the secondary market, not lower (See Oppo).
Electrolytic capacitors also degrade faster when never powered.There might be some truth (from a technical standpoint) to this, it would depend entirely on the specific ROM (memory) being used to store the player's operating system. In theory these hardware memory chips should hold their data for a very long time before degradation, but thinking along the lines of your post I wonder if powering the spare device every few years helps to 're-energize' the ROM and ensure the written data is retained. I know there's specific SSD memory types (QLC iirc) that require periodic power to run their data integrity checks and resolve issues with corrupt data lost over time as the written bits weaken.
I know we have some electrical engineer level enthusiast types on the forum that might be able to shed some light on this. For those of us with spare units in the closet this could prove to be a painful misstep if we don't power them on for a decade or more, if such issues are possible.
I agree. Select Best Buy stores have Magnolia outlets in them that concentrate on upper end equipment (although I haven’t been to a BB in the last couple years so maybe not). If the Magnolia outlets still exist then they will have to sell hardware.I don't think I'd believe that, sounds more like a sales line, "better get em while you can!, etc".
There's no doubt that the market is rapidly shrinking for both players and media but I believe it will be quite some time before they disappear completely. At least for now, the "high performance" market like us here want our BD players for lossless Atmos playback and high quality video. But who knows for how long our sales $ will provide enough continued support for either the media or hardware.
Like it or hate it, time marches on and things continue to change.![]()
Sorry, you guys may be right...I will confirm tonight.
I was in Best Buy not long ago and it seems that Magnolia is no more. They have "Premium" audio/video. From what I can gather from the web, each store may have different levels of service. It seems they have Premium Home Theater or Premium Design Center.I agree. Select Best Buy stores have Magnolia outlets in them that concentrate on upper end equipment (although I haven’t been to a BB in the last couple years so maybe not). If the Magnolia outlets still exist then they will have to sell hardware.
My Oppo 105 is my primary source, and if it dies, so will I. I hope the factory support team lasts longer than the deck.They get arthritic in their old age, just like us.
Use it or loose it, so the saying goes. LOL
Right now I've got 4 BD players sitting around, 2 Sony's and 2 Sammy's, not counting the 2 transports in my computer.
I'm hoping they'll last with me till the last round-up.![]()
Enter your email address to join: