jimfisheye
2K Club - QQ Super Nova
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I actually kind of like the idea of things morphing to a single inventory mix. If you have the system, you hear the full surround mix in real surround. If you have a smaller system, you hear as much of the surround as possible. Headphone listeners still hear bits of it that are still perceivable in binaural.What I'm afraid is that If the mixer just listen on headphones (as the mass people will do) we may loose some great opportunities of discrete, panning, moving, Much Tops/Wides engaged, etc. for the people like us that like that. Steven Wilson checks both with 7.1.4 and with Headphones using the 'different' renderer from Apple. He even makes additional 5.1 mixes to be checked and adapted better.
Fortunately, so far, there are many mixes that seems to be done with proper reference by the mixer, as they sound very good and engage well the Wides/Tops. And also the discrete Rears, that are sometimes forgetted in some 7.1.x mixes
My fear is that Atmos will be leveraged as a copy protection format and with an audience of still mostly stereo listeners that will lead to faux Atmos mixes that are mostly stereo and kind of phoned in.
I'm landing on the same fortunate experience so far that most Atmos multichannel mixes I've heard are the real thing! Maybe a few that make me question if they couldn't have just been 5.1 with the same impact. But that's inevitable right now.
I sort of thought the die had been cast and landed on 7.1.4 from some of the top mixers. But... maybe not? So... Great thread!
And I still don't know how to pipe the reference player into the renderer to meter a commercial release. Inquiring minds would like to know!