Rhino Quadio Batch 5 for August 2024!

[riknik]

Maria did “Midnight At The Oasis,” the hit single from “Waitress…”

Actually, "Midnight At The Oasis,” was on her self-titled album, not “Waitress…”

 

[riknik]

Me, too, and I have them on quad reels as well -- a much friendlier format than CD-R. When Maria played at Indianapolis's Jazz Kitchen some years ago, I brought the quad reel of Waitress for her to sign. She was shocked to see it, having no idea such a thing existed.

Ah, Warner Bros. Records in the seventies ... relying on its cash cows to underwrite so many great, commercially questionable artists!

I should say the music is great, also. Look these up and check out some of the great musicians on these albums. Just a sampling: Ray Brown, Shelly Mann, Ry Cooder, Linda Ronstadt, to name a few.

 

[JDeanB]

Maria did “Midnight At The Oasis,” the hit single from “Waitress…”

"I'm A Woman" was a moderate hit from Waitress.

 

[esimms86]

Actually, "Midnight At The Oasis,” was on her self-titled album, not “Waitress…”

Thanks for the correction. The pitfalls of relying on an aging memory!

 

[riknik]

Thanks for the correction. The pitfalls of relying on an aging memory!

How well I know . . ., what was I saying?

 

[kenm]

Last of the Brooklyn Cowboys is an exceptional sounding album in quad. But just like Maria’s quadradisc, Arlo’s QR does not feature his big hit of the era.

Maybe expectations were high that both Waitress and Cowboys were albums sure to take each of the respective artists to the next level of stardom, rather than career fade-outs.

I think we may be out of luck for Arlo Guthrie, looks like he bought his masters, on the back of Running Down The Road, back cover bottom, Warner Bros 1969, Rising Sun (his Label) 2017. "risingsunrecords.com" Would Warners still own the Quad master ? click on pic to expand.

 

[Beistovin]

Man. Frisco Mabel Joy - I freakin' love that album and would love to put it out but sadly, we have no master and no rights to Mickey's Elektra catalog. That reverted to his estate.

I know Mickey’s son Chris. He I believe is his estate and has everything. Would Rhino be able to license his stuff? Is that something you would even be interested in? I will be in his neck of the woods next week. I can ask.

Ps Steve AKA ForagingRhino. I called Chris and he told me to give you his number. So pm if you want it.

 

[Aging quadie]

I think we are out of luck for Arlo Guthrie, looks like he bought his masters, on the back of Running Down The Road, back cover bottom, Warner Bros 1969, Rising Sun (his Label) 2017. "risingsunrecords.com" Would Warners still own the Quad master ? click on pic to expand.

Looking at this credit, it appears Arlo licensed that title (along with much of his back catalog) from WEA. So Rhino should still have legitimate rights to the quad masters.

 

[barfle]

The Loss Leaders helped us discover artists that almost never would have garnered FM airplay.

I believe I have all of their loss leaders. Some great music in there, and, well, some that gave it their best shot. They were all definitely worth the price.

 

[Simon A]

I believe I have all of their loss leaders. Some great music in there, and, well, some that gave it their best shot. They were all definitely worth the price.

Good evening and welcome to Schlagers!

 

[Infomas]

I thought the same thing. A quick google search tells me they are album titles

Paul Beaver and Bernie Krause (never heard of them)
Arlo Guthrie
Maria Muldaur (never heard of her)
Duke Ellington

Would love Maria's self titled album. Played the hell out of that one when I was young.

 

[Aging quadie]

Would love Maria's self titled album. Played the hell out of that one when I was young.

Don't care to thread-crap on this hot conversation topic, but if you love Maria's first album, seek out copies of Geoff & Maria's Sweet Potatoes and Pottery Pie.

 

[quicksrt]

Looking at this credit, it appears Arlo licensed that title (along with much of his back catalog) from WEA. So Rhino should still have legitimate rights to the quad masters.

Sadly, Arlo and Maria are not next in the running for a Quadio series release anyway.

 

[BillSamm1]

The Loss Leaders helped us discover artists that almost never would have garnered FM airplay.

I have decent condition copies of all of them. There were 35 total, but arguably 37. Two different pressings of Zapped, and a sort of prototype for the series called "Some Of Our Best Friends Are...".

 

[humprof]

I have decent condition copies of all of them. There were 35 total, but arguably 37. Two different pressings of Zapped, and a sort of prototype for the series called "Some Of Our Best Friends Are...".

Just FYI, there's a thread for that:
https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/threads/warner-brothers-loss-leaders.24773/

 

[fizzywiggs41]

But I believe she has possession of those original QUAD masters!

Interesting, can I ask your source ?

 

[fizzywiggs41]

The catalog left ABC sometime in the 70s, long before MCA took it over. So they are probably safe.

There are the Atmos mixes of his album streaming, but those almost certainly have to be upmixes. They are very weak. But presuming she had to at least ok those being done, perhaps she’s changed her mind about the quads.

Or...the masters (perhaps some) could have been sold. I believe there are at least a couple of mentions on qq regarding this occurrence whereby master tapes left ABC and were sold rather willy nilly to Japanese buyers .(or at least some were).
And by willy nilly I mean incomplete, as would seem to be the case with the 2 missing songs from Steely Dan Aja.
She (Croce's widow) may only have 2 channel masters .Stereo or ?
Now if they are the QS Encoded 2 Channel masters , then she most certainly has the primary quads , sans 4 channel discreet.

Of course this is highly speculative.

 

[4-earredwonder]

Or...the masters (perhaps some) could have been sold. I believe there are at least a couple of mentions on qq regarding this occurrence whereby master tapes left ABC and were sold rather willy nilly to Japanese buyers .(or at least some were).
And by willy nilly I mean incomplete, as would seem to be the case with the 2 missing songs from Steely Dan Aja.
She (Croce's widow) may only have 2 channel masters .Stereo or ?
Now if they are the QS Encoded 2 Channel masters , then she most certainly has the primary quads , sans 4 channel discreet.

Of course this is highly speculative.

NOT that this has anything to do with Croce's existing [?] QUAD masters but came across this distressing article about the indignities Ingrid Croce suffered after Jim's tragic death:

https://www.contactmusic.com/jim-croce/news/jim-croces-widow-reveals-couples-money-problems_1350613

 

[fizzywiggs41]

Now back to Rhino Quads , which is what this thread is all about.

Steve ? (@ForagingRhino )

-something begging for a clarification, at least on my part , did you , or have you , come across any unfinished quad masters ?
I mean some tapes that may have had only 1 or more quadraphonic songs mixed ?
Or even some artist's tapes.... whereby a bonus quad track is included ?

Anything that's akin to the Jethro Tull quads for example . Whereby Songs From The Wood , had only 4 tracks mixed in quad , and War Child quad master had 2 bonus tracks (in quad).

 

[key_wiz]

Or...the masters (perhaps some) could have been sold. I believe there are at least a couple of mentions on qq regarding this occurrence whereby master tapes left ABC and were sold rather willy nilly to Japanese buyers .(or at least some were).
And by willy nilly I mean incomplete, as would seem to be the case with the 2 missing songs from Steely Dan Aja.
She (Croce's widow) may only have 2 channel masters .Stereo or ?
Now if they are the QS Encoded 2 Channel masters , then she most certainly has the primary quads , sans 4 channel discreet.

Of course this is highly speculative.

Croce’s masters left ABC when Cashman & West took them to their “Lifesong” label in 1975. It’s possible, of course, that the quads were forgotten about and stayed at ABC. It’s also possible they stayed with Cashman & West after Ingrid finally got control of them in 1982 after fighting with them in court for years.

I don’t know where the story comes from that she’s been asked and has specifically said “no”, but if that’s true, she apparently didn’t say “I don’t have them”, so my presumption would be that she has them or at least knows where they are.

My speculation is that she’s probably never heard the quad versions. And neither did Jim as they were all apparently made after his death. So her reasoning for not wanting them released again may be as simple as “Jim never approved these mixes”. Now with the advent of Atmos maybe she’s eased up a bit on this. And, now that she’s around 80, could be that AJ has more say about the family business/legacy.