Roxy Music -Avalon 40th anniversary Dolby Atmos Mix (now streaming)

[sjcorne]

Overall there’s not a ‘massive’ difference I could tell… But it’s starting from such a high bar… Some cool moments still though and was pleasantly surprised with a new real mix on track 4 - India.

Interesting, I thought it was quite different even after just one listen.

Right from the beginning, the main guitar figure in "More Than This" that used to be in the rears is now in the front. As others have said, the center speaker is used a lot more aggressively to isolate the bulk of the drums, bass, and lead vocal. I can perceive phantom images left and right of center (for things like tom hits, some guitar parts, etc), which would suggest that the level of the center channel is as intended, but I did find the vocals slightly too hot in places. It also seems a bit 'wetter' than the 5.1 mix, perhaps because most of the reverbs and delays are now relocated to the height speakers.

 

[MrSmithers]

Interesting, I thought it was quite different even after just one listen.

Right from the beginning, the main guitar figure in "More Than This" that used to be in the rears is now in the front. As others have said, the center speaker is used a lot more aggressively to isolate the bulk of the drums, bass, and lead vocal. I can perceive phantom images left and right of center (for things like tom hits, some guitar parts, etc), which would suggest that the level of the center channel is as intended, but I did find the vocals slightly too hot in places. It also seems a bit 'wetter' than the 5.1 mix, perhaps because most of the reverbs and delays are now relocated to the height speakers.

Yep, probably not that eloquently put by me. I was more meaning on how surround-y it felt compared to the 5.1 mix... In that regard I thought they were in a similar vein although I was only listening in 5.1.2 so probably not the best showcase. But yeah that centre channel is much more utilised - even to a slightly distracting point at some moments. It wasn't such a big jump like how Music From The Big Pink was. Still, pleased this is out and glad I've still got the 5.1 mix, which from memory sounded better fidelity wise (even considering that was mixed from CD level transfers).

 

[olgitnorm]

Yep, probably not that eloquently put by me. I was more meaning on how surround-y it felt compared to the 5.1 mix... In that regard I thought they were in a similar vein although I was only listening in 5.1.2 so probably not the best showcase. But yeah that centre channel is much more utilised - even to a slightly distracting point at some moments. It wasn't such a big jump like how Music From The Big Pink was. Still, pleased this is out and glad I've still got the 5.1 mix, which from memory sounded better fidelity wise (even considering that was mixed from CD level transfers).

Are you going through Tidal as I am only getting stereo from Apple?

 

[MrSmithers]

Are you going through Tidal as I am only getting stereo from Apple?

Yep just on Tidal for the mo. Sure it won't be long before it hits the others. It's not on Amazon Music yet either apart from the 2 songs from the Best Of.

 

[5.1 4 Life]

We really need a Wilson 5.1 of For Your Pleasure

I'd go for 5.1/Atmos mixes of all Roxy Music's studio albums on Blu-Ray!

 

[Simon A]

I'd go for 5.1/Atmos mixes of all Roxy Music's studio albums on Blu-Ray!

Man, I'd give my upstairs neighbour's kidneys to have a sweet Multichannel mix of Siren, my fave Roxy album.

 

[srbjab]

Hopefully the new mix makes it to blu-ray. Streaming Atmos from Apple actually sounds very good on my system but I'd prefer to own a physical copy. If they do release it on BD and it sells well enough maybe it'll release the floodgates on the rest of the catalog.

 

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[sjcorne]

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I think the above is referring to the “Best of” Atmos mixes that appeared on Apple Music last year. The title track on that release sounds like an upmix of the old 5.1, with the center folded into the mains and the rear content duplicated across the sides & surround backs.

The new Avalon full album mix that appeared on Tidal yesterday is the real deal. The mix of the title track is the same as the demo I heard at Apogee Studios back in March during MixLA.

 

[splinter7]

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I think the above is referring to the “Best of” Atmos mixes that appeared on Apple Music last year.

Phew! I was worried there.
Makes sense that it is connected to that.

I was kinda wondering on how you can create one of the best 5.1 surround mixes with More than This & Avalon only screw up the song in Atmos.

 

[Simon A]

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What Bob is saying here is that the record company will be releasing Avalon (Taylor's Version).

 

[SomethingAnything]

Man, I'd give my upstairs neighbour's kidneys to have a sweet Multichannel mix of Siren, my fave Roxy album.

I agree, except for the bit about giving away my kidneys.

 

[Simon A]

I agree, except for the bit about giving away my kidneys.

You can keep yours, I did specify my upstairs neighbour's kidneys.

 

[SeeMoreDigital]

I'm curious as to why this topic is still in the 'Rumblings In Surround' section of the forum when it's now a confirmed 'streaming' release!

 

[kenm]

Don't want to get anyone's hope up, I was reading the article below in Sound and Vision magazine....2022 is the 40th anniversary of this great album...

Hope springs eternal...

https://www.soundandvision.com/content/remaster-class-roxy-music-avalon

 

[kenm]

Don't want to get anyone's hope up, I was reading the article below in Sound and Vision magazine....2022 is the 40th anniversary of this great album...

Hope springs eternal...

https://www.soundandvision.com/content/remaster-class-roxy-music-avalon

Avalon SACD 5.1mix is truly AWESOME, just explodes in the room.

 

[privateuniverse]

Oh yeah, Clearmountain hits it out of the park once again. (Why couldn't he have mixed Syncronicity???).

The first time a Grammy was awarded for surround mixing, the 5.1 of Avalon lost out to Genius Loves Company. Maybe this time Bob will get a much-deserved award.

 

[stormchaser]

I listened to the Atmos mix last night on Tidal. To me, I found too much going on in the center channel at the expense of the instrumentation (as opposed to the older 5.1). Now, I suspect if I listen again and just turn down the center channel a bit, I will be pretty pleased with the mix. YMMV.

 

[himey]

the “Best of” Atmos mixes that appeared on Apple Music last year. The title track on that release sounds like an upmix of the old 5.1

Why would they do that when they had to mix the other songs from scratch since most of the songs didn't get a 5.1 release.

 

[himey]

I suspect if I listen again and just turn down the center channel a bit

Try turning off the center channel in the speaker configuration settings so it gets routed to your main speakers. It may sound better that way listening from the sweet spot (mlp).