SPOTLIGHT Sony Japan 7" Mini-LP Hybrid SACD Series - Comprehensive List of Multichannel Titles

[J. PUPSTER]

ooh... what a curious release out of leftfield!!

what's most interesting (to me anyway ) about this one is that it was never originally released on SQ Quad LP or Q8 Quad 8-track back in the day, Audio Fidelity gave the Quad it's first official airing on Surround SACD in 2016..!!

oh yes, that and there are actually two distinct Quad mixes.. neither of which saw official release in the 70's. the other's on a 4-ch 'Robin Reel', iirc..

i'm guessing this will utilise the mix Audio Fidelity used and that's streaming in Dolby Audio on Apple Music at the moment.

oh yeah.. and also quite excitingly it opens up the possibility of other Sony Quads that never saw release back in the day maybe making it out on 7" Sony Japan SACD... like Edgar Winter's White Trash with Jerry LaCroix, maybe..!?

IDK, weird AF right? Sure I've got the AF SACD, but rarely play it. Lovely album though.

and Jerry who?

edit- oh right, lead singer for 'White Trash'

 

[Dynamic Editor]

Love the album, hate the quad mix. The balance between the two back channels is really really frustrating to me; it's absolutely lopsided.

 

[quicksrt]

Love the album, hate the quad mix. The balance between the two back channels is really really frustrating to me; it's absolutely lopsided.

Oh you mean it's something that is easy to fix? Thank goodness.

 

[Dynamic Editor]

Oh you mean it's something that is easy to fix? Thank goodness.

Not really. It's an issue of what they decided to put in each of the two speakers. I think one of the channels was a full drum kit and the other was... maybe bass guitar? I forget, but it wasn't an issue of something simply being mixed too quietly overall, or in being presented incorrectly.

 

[fredblue]

Love the album, hate the quad mix. The balance between the two back channels is really really frustrating to me; it's absolutely lopsided.

with Drums in the Rear Left and Bass in the Rear Right, you mean?

fwiw, there's a fair number of CBS Quads mixed that way.

one Quad mixing team back in the day (Dick Bogert & Warren Vincent at A&M) mixed almost exclusively that way in fact, by mixing Drums predominantly in one Rear (almost always in the Rear Right) and Bass in the other Rear (Rear Left).

a theory that's been posited is they were mixed that way for cars with Quad 8-track and 4-channel systems

i don't know about that, having never heard Quad in a car but i absolutely love this style of mixing Quad, it so beautifully showcases the rhythm section.

i also have found these types of mixes can pinpoint an overloud Rear or Rears and/or imbalanced Rear channels in some setups, if the Rears overwhelm the Fronts or one Rear is much more prominent than the other

not suggesting that is happening for you, if you just don't like the mixing approach that's absolutely groovy of course!

 

[DuncanS]

with Drums in the Rear Left and Bass in the Rear Right, you mean?

fwiw, there's a fair number of CBS Quads mixed that way.

one Quad mixing team back in the day (Dick Bogert & Warren Vincent at A&M) mixed almost exclusively that way in fact, by mixing Drums predominantly in one Rear (almost always in the Rear Right) and Bass in the other Rear (Rear Left).

a theory that's been posited is they were mixed that way for cars with Quad 8-track and 4-channel systems

i don't know about that, having never heard Quad in a car but i absolutely love this style of mixing Quad, it so beautifully showcases the rhythm section.

i also have found these types of mixes can pinpoint an overloud Rear or Rears and/or imbalanced Rear channels in some setups, if the Rears overwhelm the Fronts or one Rear is much more prominent than the other

not suggesting that is happening for you, if you just don't like the mixing approach that's absolutely groovy of course!

The old Quad mixes work well in the car, as placement like you mention means you can hear its coming from a particular channel - I like listening to the Doobies Quads in the car.

 

[fredblue]

Not really. It's an issue of what they decided to put in each of the two speakers. I think one of the channels was a full drum kit and the other was... maybe bass guitar? I forget, but it wasn't an issue of something simply being mixed too quietly overall, or in being presented incorrectly.

yeah that's it, Drums/Bass Rears Quad

there's a thread somewhere here at QQ dedicated to weedling out those exact mixes.

they're definitely a "Marmite" kinda mix style. some people love 'em, others loathe them!

fortunately i love the brown sticky stuff (Marmite that is! not a stick. or a stick insect. or a sticky bun. or a stick insect that got stuck to a stick that got stuck on a sticky bun)

(n.b. Marmite is a brown gooey sticky ol' yeast extract spread from the UK you can smeeeearrrr over your hot buttered toast in zee mornink, if you're so inclined )

 

[fredblue]

The old Quad mixes work well in the car, as placement like you mention means you can hear its coming from a particular channel - I like listening to the Doobies Quads in the car.

oh Duncy baby!!! on that sterling recommendation i must find a car i can play the Doobies Quadio in immediately -- if not sooner!!!

 

[fredblue]

QQ thread discussion on Bass/Drum Rear channels type o'Quad mixes like the upcoming Laura Nyro Sony Japan 7" SACD;

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/fo...nt-in-old-quad-mixes.25511/page-3#post-392665

 

[DuncanS]

oh Duncy baby!!! on that sterling recommendation i must find a car i can play the Doobies Quadio in immediately -- if not sooner!!!

 

[Dynamic Editor]

yeah that's it, Drums/Bass Rears Quad

there's a thread somewhere here at QQ dedicated to weedling out those exact mixes.

It's not so much the idea that it's bass in one channel and drums in the other that offends me, it's that the bass is nowhere near strong enough in this mix to warrant that pairing.

 

[4-earredwonder]

QQ thread discussion on Bass/Drum Rear channels type o'Quad mixes like the upcoming Laura Nyro Sony Japan 7" SACD;

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/fo...nt-in-old-quad-mixes.25511/page-3#post-392665

Coming November 27th ........ To buy or NOT to buy since I do love the Audio Fidelity QUAD SACD! NOTE: ONLY the CD layer contains BONUS tracks!

https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/SICP-10156

 

[Dynamic Editor]

What are the bonus tracks, anyway?

 

[fredblue]

What are the bonus tracks, anyway?

i don't know but if they're the same ones carried over from the remaster they'll be an extra track ("Lu") and a couple of demos (for "Stoned Soul Picnic" & "Emmie"), if so not terribly substantial/consequential, i guess?

 

[fredblue]

Coming November 27th ........ To buy or NOT to buy since I do love the Audio Fidelity QUAD SACD! NOTE: ONLY the CD layer contains BONUS tracks!

https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/SICP-10156

if it's the alternative unreleased Quad mix from the Robin Reels i'm in, otherwise.. ah i dunno, Ralphlie.. bah, i'll probably succumb eventually

 

[fredblue]

It's not so much the idea that it's bass in one channel and drums in the other that offends me, it's that the bass is nowhere near strong enough in this mix to warrant that pairing.

i gotchya i don't remember the AF SACD being that out of whack but i'll take your word for it

 

[4-earredwonder]

if it's the alternative unreleased Quad mix from the Robin Reels i'm in, otherwise.. ah i dunno, Ralphlie.. bah, i'll probably succumb eventually

Hey, $30 ... the same list price as the Audio Fidelity SACD and QUAD [DSD 256] remastered from I would imagine the original Columbia analogue masters!

 

[JediJoker]

To buy or NOT to buy since I do love the Audio Fidelity QUAD SACD!

As with Headhunters and Blow By Blow (Analogue Productions), Jeff Beck Group and Birds of Fire (Audio Fidelity), and Carlos Santana & Buddy Miles! Live! (Dutton Vocalion), I'll be skipping the 7".

 

[Dynamic Editor]

As with Headhunters and Blow By Blow (Analogue Productions), Birds of Fire (Audio Fidelity), and Carlos Santana & Buddy Miles! Live! (Dutton Vocalion), I'll be skipping the 7".

They need to rerelease Wired by Jeff Beck, though.

 

[JediJoker]

They need to rerelease Wired by Jeff Beck, though.

All the Jeff Beck quad albums could use a rerelease in 4.0, as is now standard practice for Sony Japan.