Sony strikes deal to acquire Pink Floyd catalog in $400 million deal, say sources

[bookofsaturdays]

Didn't they already get released as Easter eggs in one of the blu rays?

Not Obscured By Clouds, only Meddle. And it would be nice if they got officially released maybe with new Atmos mixes by Andy Jackson

 

[Owen Smith]

Gilmour was essentially a session musician on The Final Cut (no creative input) and Mason was mostly just mixing it. It's lyrically interesting and well done, but musically pretty uninspiring to me. Leftover tracks from an album that was already bloated. And I will always consider it a Waters solo album.

To be fair the CD liner notes say it is written by Roger Waters and performed by Pink Floyd, there's no claim anyone but Waters had creative input.

 

[quicksrt]

Personally speaking The Final Cut is my favourite Floyd/Waters album and a 5.1 mix would be my absolute dream. I've never understood why so many people don't like it. For me it's a Tour de Force of songwriting genius and it's anti war to boot, apart from the bust up it caused, what's not to like.

It is what I think is the finest album of a rock band with orchestra ever made. It is so well recorded and the Holophonics elements in the mix are so well done that it sounds like it is a 5.1 mix. So in that way is almost needs no surround mix, four speakers will show off plenty of spaciousness. It was included in my very first batch of CDs bought in late 1984. It didn't cause a bust up, the band had been splintering for quite a while before, like years. Imo, it's the crowning masterpiece of the Waters era of the band. And over the decades it had racked up massive sales for the band, so sales wise it's also actually a success.

 

[quicksrt]

To be fair the CD liner notes say it is written by Roger Waters and performed by Pink Floyd, there's no claim anyone but Waters had creative input.

Gilmour's lead guitar solos are pretty spectacularly killer. I think he takes three of them.

 

[4-earredwonder]

From VARIETY [October 3, 2024]:

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[notthattodd]

Personally speaking The Final Cut is my favourite Floyd/Waters album and a 5.1 mix would be my absolute dream. I've never understood why so many people don't like it. For me it's a Tour de Force of songwriting genius and it's anti war to boot, apart from the bust up it caused, what's not to like.

It's also the one album that doesn't seem to have received much care outside of a remaster. I get that it's basically a Roger Waters solo effort, but it's still a solid record. Animals finally getting the attention it deserved only highlights how little attention The Final Cut has received. Hell, early Animals tracks appeared on some of the box sets for other albums, but nothing of The Finsl Cut. Maybe that's up to Waters entirely since the others all but washed their hands of it when it was done.

 

[SeeMoreDigital]

Lol... Here in the UK, Queens, I Want to Break Free can be heard on an TV commercial for a KitKat bar "Have a break, have a KitKat"... The rot has set in!

 

[progtodd]

It's also the one album that doesn't seem to have received much care outside of a remaster. I get that it's basically a Roger Waters solo effort, but it's still a solid record. Animals finally getting the attention it deserved only highlights how little attention The Final Cut has received. Hell, early Animals tracks appeared on some of the box sets for other albums, but nothing of The Finsl Cut. Maybe that's up to Waters entirely since the others all but washed their hands of it when it was done.

I'm a big fan of The Final Cut! I think Roger's voice on it is probably his best vocal performance!

 

[mutant_matt]

I hope we do get The Wall in Atmos. It a brilliant record with so much extra-musical activity that it just screams for an immersive experience.

Well, the 5.1 mix was done YEARS ago, so perhaps THATs the way we actually, finally, get our hands on that as a release...

I bought all the other Immersion sets except The Wall, as there was nothing new/worth having in it, IMHO (and I knew a 5.1 was "coming" at some point) - I've been waiting for the hi-res/multi-channel release ever since...

Personally speaking The Final Cut is my favourite Floyd/Waters album and a 5.1 mix would be my absolute dream. I've never understood why so many people don't like it. For me it's a Tour de Force of songwriting genius and it's anti war to boot, apart from the bust up it caused, what's not to like.

Whilst nowhere near my favorite, I still think it's a brilliant album and whilst it was very slanted to Roger, it has many fantastic songs on it and still has some fantastic playing from David!!!

It's sad it was the last "proper" PF album, but I still love and include it and too would really love it to get the 5.1/ATMOS treatment!!

 

[mutant_matt]

Didn't they already get released as Easter eggs in one of the blu rays?

I don't think so! (at least for Meddle)

It was on the Early Years box set BluRay only because I think it was too late to "easily" remove it from the pressing master (or whatever it's called) so the quick and dirty way to "remove" it from that disc was to just remove it from the menus... (so I'd argue not an "intentional" "Easter Egg"TBH...!)

I bought the follow up single BluRay in the hope it would also still be there, but it wasn't, so I had to "acquire" a copy elsewhere...

 

[Perp]

Well, when/if The Wall is finally released, it should be an Atmos mix. But, I’ll settle for a 5.1 mix for sure.

 

[KG10]

Well, when/if The Wall is finally released, it should be an Atmos mix. But, I’ll settle for a 5.1 mix for sure.

Unfortunately they could easily do an animals again and release the 5.1 first then the atmos a year latter.

 

[KG10]

I don't think so! (at least for Meddle)

It was on the Early Years box set BluRay only because I think it was too late to "easily" remove it from the pressing master (or whatever it's called) so the quick and dirty way to "remove" it from that disc was to just remove it from the menus... (so I'd argue not an "intentional" "Easter Egg"TBH...!)

I bought the follow up single BluRay in the hope it would also still be there, but it wasn't, so I had to "acquire" a copy elsewhere...

How comes they wanted to remove it?

 

[Owen Smith]

How comes they wanted to remove it?

Waters didn't sign off the mix, usual Floyd rubbish.

 

[mutant_matt]

Waters didn't sign off the mix, usual Floyd rubbish.

Indeed!
From what I recall (there was a LOT of discussion about it on the Early Years Box Set thread on here), it went something like:

1. Pink Floyd (i.e. not Roger) commissioned a 5.1 Meddle mix to Andy Jackson (some say, David's "favored" engineer (though I'm not sure I buy this as David and James Guthrie worked together on many projects over many years)), and a hi-res 2.0 re-mix to go with it IIRC.

2. PF either didn't provide the new mix to Roger until he got wind of it, or very late in the day - either way, he didn't hear it "in time" (or possibly at all), so wouldn't sign off on it (there was talk that it also *might* have been something to do with James Guthrie (Roger's "preferred" engineer) not having been the person to do the engineering work..)

3. The "Pressing master" or whatever that's called was already done and they had to hurriedly remove the mix from the retail production at the last minute so just removed the "links" to the actual stream on the disc, from the menus, the stream itself was still there.

4. So in a BluRay player, you wouldn't know it was there but when someone came to rip the disc, they spotted it and "told the internet"...

I think that is about accurate

 

[boxhead]

Indeed!
From what I recall (there was a LOT of discussion about it on the Early Years Box Set thread on here), it went something like:

1. Pink Floyd (i.e. not Roger) commissioned a 5.1 Meddle mix to Andy Jackson (some say, David's "favored" engineer (though I'm not sure I buy this as David and James Guthrie worked together on many projects over many years)), and a hi-res 2.0 re-mix to go with it IIRC.

2. PF either didn't provide the new mix to Roger until he got wind of it, or very late in the day - either way, he didn't hear it "in time" (or possibly at all), so wouldn't sign off on it (there was talk that it also *might* have been something to do with James Guthrie (Roger's "preferred" engineer) not having been the person to do the engineering work..)

3. The "Pressing master" or whatever that's called was already done and they had to hurriedly remove the mix from the retail production at the last minute so just removed the "links" to the actual stream on the disc, from the menus, the stream itself was still there.

4. So in a BluRay player, you wouldn't know it was there but when someone came to rip the disc, they spotted it and "told the internet"...

I think that is about accurate

That's how I recall the situation as well. What I've never understood is if they changed the menu to remove the links to the disputed content they would have had to produce a new "pressing master" in any case. Why not remove the offending streams at the same time?

 

[mutant_matt]

That's how I recall the situation as well. What I've never understood is if they changed the menu to remove the links to the disputed content they would have had to produce a new "pressing master" in any case. Why not remove the offending streams at the same time?

Yep - I always wondered the same thing!!

 

[jimfisheye]

If you can remove one file, you can remove any files. And... that would mean making a new "pressing master" either way. It's an obvious 'Easter egg'. This time for people who rip discs to listen on HTPC. Pretty on brand for them with an Easter egg for the times.

TER box and all the mastering flaws... At least we got a little something! Someone would have to convince Sony that the hard core Floyd fans who pine over the live stuff and genuine surround sound mixes of said live stuff are still alive and well and hungry. Then they'd have to do some heavy duty production work to put some of these incomplete puzzle pieces back together. Technical issues and shortcomings from their live surround sound mixes being about 40 years ahead of their time and impossible to capture very well back then. And then someone would have to get it approved by both Dave and Rog. Dave seems particularly aloof about old recordings. Rog... No clue what Roger is on about these days. He'd want to re-record it as spoken word or something.

These guys were already checked out years ago. The corporate behemoth has already let fans down with poor work in light of how high these guys set the bar with audiophile sound back in the day. The archives and any thought of hearing some of their live quad mixed shows from back in the day seems as far away as ever.