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HomerJAU

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I’ve been tweaking my Kodi skin for surround music and improving navigation, album filtering etc, and now looking at building some new Intel NUCs for family members. I realise I can build and install a fully setup customised Kodi very quickly, I can clone a disc image onto a SSD drive and its ready to use. All a user needs to do is add their media file folder locations in the Kodi media library settings.

These NUCs play all surround audio formats (except DSD is via pcm), 4K HDR video, and will have dedicated customised UI for QQers and come complete with my collection of hundreds of surround artists biographies and thousands of fan art images etc. They can be controlled via a supplied Bluetooth remote, or via smartphone and tablet apps. They are 4" square and come in slim or high cases (high give room for a 2.5" internal hard drive):
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The NUCs run silently while playing music. When when turned on, the UI starts at the Music menu and allows viewing your albums by types: Atmos, Quad, Upmixes, Concerts (videos), Stereo or Surround (Surround is anything not listed previously). Users can connect to their media via network (Ethernet or WiFi) or via USB ports to external USB drives. The 500GB of internal drive space allows users to take nearly 500GB of media on the road, just plug it in to any HDMI AVR or TV and you can play what’s stored internally. The Linux/Kodi install runs in a 512MB partition, my Kodi customisation and Artist Information (metadata and images) uses under 10GB, the rest free to use.

I started thinking this would be such a great way to get QQers into using a media player, I could offer prebuilt Intel NUCs with Kodi fully setup to guys here in AU, I’m not thinking about this for profit, I’d just cover my costs to buy parts and resell/ship. I found some 2nd hand Intel NUCs on eBay and have bought 8 (4 are going to family). I’ve bought new NVME 4.0 SSD 500GB (4000MB/s read, 2000MB/s write ), new power supplies and Bluetooth remotes. The cost was around $165 USD. But I can get that down by buying NUCs from US. I picked up 6 this week for under $80 USD ea, 8GB ram, no disc or power supply. The ones I’d bought prior here in AU were over $100 USD, but did have power supplies.

Anyway, if you are still following me: I‘m thinking QQ members in North America would be interested, but it seems crazy for me to buy NUCs from US, pay shipping and GST tax to get them here in AU, then pay shipping and tax to send them back to the US. So I’d like to find a member in the US or Canada, that would be comfortable to clone an SSD from my disc image (LibreElec/Linux Kodi), install the SSD in the NUC and ship to members. it’s pretty easy if you’ve ever installed PC parts. Oh, also each NUC needs to have two firmware updates, one for the NUCs Intel chipset and one for its HDMI chipset. But that’s easy too. Anyone interested?

It can work two ways: I buy the parts and set the price, or you buy the parts and set your price. But I’m open to ideas, The goal is to get new QQers off their BD players on to media players. The future is now!

I’m sorry but since I’ll be funding the initial cost to purchase the NUCs and parts, I will only work with well known members here, no newbies. Sorry.

Maybe a member in UK or EU wants to join in too?

BTW: I will upload my new QQ skin mod when it’s ready for all Kodi users, and also the LibreElec (Linux) disc image too for those users with their own NUCs. Then users can buy their own hardware and do their own builds.

THIS IS NOT YET AVAILABLE. I AM NOT SELLING NUCS NOW. But those members interested in buying a NUC setup like this can reply to this post now to register interest. I am currently trying to get Music Media Helper 9 finished and released, then I turn my attention to this project.

Some Kodi UI screen shots showing the UI included:
Main Startup Menu (The Artist Slideshow shows random Artist fan art, changing every few seconds) - Note the sub-menu nodes take you to 'filtered' Album lists (showing only your albums that are 'Atmos', 'Quad" etc (users can also customise this menu feature):
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The Album lists look like this (as you scroll through the list, both album cover and background artist fanart change to the current list item) - In this list it only shows 'Surround' albums - Atmos, Quad, Upmixes or Stereo albums are excluded)
UIAlbumsList.png


Selecting a track from an Album:
TrackList.png


When playing an Album track, the Artist Slideshow rotates fan art images for the artist(s) tagged for that song, the disc art rotates and the tickertape at bottom shows the artist biography:
MusicPlayingArtistSlideshow.png


For any Artist you can access biography in detail or Album details from the remote control: Examples:
ArtistData.png


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All this metadata above is scraped automatically from the web, or can be found in the metadata files that will be included on the NUCs and/or can edited by a user (simple xml text files)

Here is an old video I did of a previous QQ skin mod I did of the Kodi Artist Slideshow when song is playing and you have a TV connected. The mod shows a codec logo at bottom of the info section, the latest version has small album art and fonts:


EDIT: For the techs in the crowd, here is the full NUC8 specs PDF: The NUCs in this project are all i3 3GHz/3.6GHz 2 Core 4 threads. Playing Kodi the CPU just idles along even when playing 4K video:
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/s...s/NUC8i3BE_NUC8i5BE_NUC8i7BE_TechProdSpec.pdf
 

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BTW: I will upload my new QQ skin mod when it’s ready for all Kodi users, and also the LibreElec (Linux) disc image too for those users with their own NUCs. Then users can buy their own hardware and do their own builds.

THIS IS NOT YET AVAILABLE. I AM NOT SELLING NUCS NOW. But those members interested in buying a NUC setup like this can reply to this post now to register interest. I am currently trying to get Music Media Helper 9 finished and released, then I turn my attention to this project.

Thank you for making the fruits of all your hard work available, would definitely be interested in rolling my own and making use of that.
 
Garry, this is an awesome offer, and I want to go this route. Always wanted to try a NUC with Kodi but felt a bit intimidated. Consider me a big GO.

Hey Gene, great news. This will be good for you, you’ve asked about Kodi previously but setting one of these up is difficult for someone that hasn’t built PCs previously.

I will add all those who show interest to my register, when the NUCs are ready I’ll post a new thread announcing availability and final pricing inc. shipping. Payment will be via PayPal or some other easy payment system. By registering your interest here, is not a commitment to buy. But it does help me with the build quantity.

I’m hoping I’ll have the NUCs assembled and shipped from US for you. I now have a member in Canada @letting1 that has offered to help assemble and load the software, so Canadians will get direct shipping once we sort out the logistics.
 
Amazingly generous offer, Garry. Count me among the NUC-curious.

Right now I use an old Windows laptop connected to my AVR via HDMI (and to a 12TB external HD via USB) as a combination media player / web browser / downloader / occasional light-duty workstation (MMH, EAC, MakeMKV, etc.). I know I'm going to have to retire that laptop later this year after Microsoft sunsets security updates for Windows 10, and I expect this NUC wouldn't be a replacement for everything I currently do with the laptop. (Correct me if I'm wrong!) But it could be a partial replacement, anyway, right? And quieter, and with a smaller footprint.
 
These NUCs will have Linux and will be setup an a Media Player.

But they will run Windows and with an NVME SD will kill your old laptop for performance.

If you want one to run Windows I can build one without LibreElec (the Linux Kodi setup), and you can install Windows? Or you can buy two!! One as a media player one as your Windows mini PC.
 
@humprof Thinking about your question a little more: You could run Windows from a USB drive on the Media Player setup NUC.

If the Windows USB drive is plugged in it would boot to Windows, if the Windows USB drive is removed, it would boot to Linux (Kodi)

All you would need is an external USB NVME adapter with another NVME SSD with Windows installed, so the additional price is just the USB NVME adapter and the Windows NVME SSD (maybe under $50 USD depending on the size drive you want for Windows)

But maybe you’d want more than 8GB RAM for Windows 11? I'd probably go with a i5 NUC and 16GB RAM. i7s get hot and fan noise is not wanted on a media player, you want silence. For Kodi an i3 is just idling along.
 
These NUCs will have Linux and will be setup an a Media Player.

But they will run Windows and with an NVME SD will kill your old laptop for performance.

If you want one to run Windows I can build one without LibreElec (the Linux Kodi setup), and you can install Windows? Or you can buy two!! One as a media player one as your Windows mini PC.
Killing me. I might want to go this route.
 
Running Windows AND Linux (LibreElec/Kodi) on the same NUC:

Why not just install Windows and then Install Kodi for Windows too?
Windows is a huge OS. Wasting disk space but worse, there are scores of services running in the background, automatic updates, virus scans etc. You don't want this or need this when playing music or a 4K concert. LibreElec is a striped down Linux OS with the absolute minimum required to run media player software, no bells and whistles required.

@humprof and @GOS

This is the NVME USB C enclosure that will take an NVME SSD drive to allow you to boot to Windows 11 with your new NUC8s. Effectively allowing you to run Windows on your new NUC, shutdown, remove it, switch the NUC back on and it boots to Libreelec (Kodi/Linux) as a media player, shutdown Librelec, plug-in the NVME SSD USB adpter, turn the NUC on. back to Windows again!!

https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Enclosure-10Gbps-External-Support/dp/B0D53K7HK9

There are other USB NVME adapters that are a bit cheaper, this one is $21, but I use a Ugreen and it works.

If want up to 40Gbps read/write to a Windows NVME USB adapter for $69 get this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B2LM8KKP

About NVME SSDs:
So using the NUC's USB C Thunderbolt port (back right top in first post here) your system reads/writes to your USB NVME SSD at 10Gb/sec. Now that's much faster than a normal SSD or hard drive which has a theoretical 6Gb/sec but is actually a lot slower, especially if you compare to a spinning SATA 2.5" laptop drive. Using NVME drives is a huge speed boost for apps like Windows media conversions using MMH, ffmpeg, Foobar, Eacto, MKVtoolNix etc. These all read and write to discs constantly and benefit from much faster read/writes.

Once you have your NVME USB Adapter all you need to do is buy a NVME SSD drive (500GB min for Windows is my recommendation, under $40 on Amazon) and create a 'WinToGo' Windows 11 installation on the NVME SSD. This is VERY Easy with free software!! Do not buy some shitty 'paid for' app being spruked with any Google search!). Use Rufus. I will post details of exactly what to do before we roll-out these NUCs. But honestly, hand-on-heart, this is dead simple!! You will have a new mini PC AND a dedicated media player all in one tiny box. AND DON'T buy an NVME SSD without asking me (unless you are a seasoned PC builder, of course).

Rufus Portable s/w download here:
https://rufus.ie/en/

You can use any USB keyboard and mouse that's supported my Windows or use existing ones. You can get cheap Windows licenses on the web, the Windows ISO is freely available from Microsoft (about 4GB download). Easy as!

Here's another solution for all you Mac guys that want to use MMH!
 
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This is great @HomerJAU - once again you're doing yeoman's service getting all these luddite fuddy-duddies into the shiny and gleaming modern era. :D

Apologies if I've missed it, but couldn't one dual boot Windows and LibreElec if they're so inclined?
 
I don’t know how to do that Dave. This started as a Linux only build, a couple of users mentioned using the NUC to run Windows.

The 2nd NVME will allow that and still allow me to clone all the SSDs I’ll need to create. Dual boot means larger SSDs and more work for me!

Ideally it’s all the same builds with same SSDs, Bulk buy discounts, easy cloning etc
 
Nice work Garry! Whoever picks one up in the States is going to be very lucky... Just one thought that worked for me.... I was able to setup my NUC8 to have Windows on a separate 2.5 inch SATA SSD within the same enclosure. I did this after a few years of already having the NUC setup to run LibreElec on the M.2 SSD. At the time I think I just downloaded Windows (free) from the Microsoft website to a bootable setup USB. Then made sure I took out the existing M.2 SSD before trying to install Windows to the other SSD.

There was a little bit of faff, numerous reboots etc but once installed and up and running, I could use WIndows as an ongoing trial. It just bugged (quite a lot) about buying a code, and eventually luckily I got one.

You can setup in the NUC bios the SSD boot order. Mine just defaults to Kodi (LibreElec) unless I press F10 (which you press a few times) just after you switch the NUC on. Scroll down to the other SSD and then Windows just loads up instead and takes me to the login screen.

Works pretty well for me as I use Mac for my other computing needs... 🤖
 
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