anytime!Thank you for the effort @fredblue
tbh i think this is the most i posted in a Poll without owning the disk in question (yet!) come on UPS/USPS, hurry up and deliver the Quadioooo!!
anytime!Thank you for the effort @fredblue
Yes indeed. Which track is this one?This is the waveform on the Blu-Ray, with everything amplified by 3dB so it's easier to make comparisons:View attachment 97384
And this is how things look if you amplify the front left channel by an additional 5dB:
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Well on Tracks 02, 03, and 06 I did do a 2db boost to FL chan and they sounded spot on after that. Did not need a 5 or 8 db boost. Might be just the way my amp measures DBs.Well I don't have my disc yet. And the lower dB on the front left is interesting.
But the question is, how does it sound?
@quicksrt seems to think the sound is balanced OK, and we all have different setups, etc so I'll wait until my discs are here before I make any judgements.
Still interesting, though, especially after looking at @fredblue CD-4 waveforms.
It's the first song on the album.Yes indeed. Which track is this one?
This tape is the Sigma Sound original master they are working from and not a working copy for any particular format.Who would have modified the Spinners quad mix (level wise) - I've never read about the JVC Cutting Center modifying the quad master tapes they received for cutting CD-4 masters?
Kirk Bayne
For those of us that don't have the CD-4 or the Q8 versions, would it be possible for you to make a list of your recommended channel level adjustments, track by track, to get the Blu-ray closer to the balances of the old versions? Only if it's not too much trouble, and if you were kind of headed in that direction anyways.fwiw i've spent the best part of the day doing further comparisons between the old Q8 tape and CD-4 LP and the new Quadio Blu-ray, looking at waveforms while A-B'ing clips from all 3 sources all afternoon
at this point, i feel if more people could hear the mix as on CD-4 LP and Q8 tape they might enjoy it more because on those old formats it's so well balanced.
unfortunately, despite the sound quality being far superior on the new Blu-ray than either the Q8 tape or CD-4 LP, the BD has some pretty major channel imbalances going on, always in the Front Left but also sometimes in the Rear Right too and for me that adversely affects the whole experience.
take track 6 for example, "One Of A Kind (Love Affair)".
as you can see, the Rear Right is considerably louder on the Blu-ray than on the CD-4 and the Front Left's way too low again (as it is on every track).
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I can't speak to that, having never hear the quad LP.I donβt recall hearing the lead vocal anywhere other than center front on the quad LP.
anytime! this is one of my most cherished WEA Quads so it's important to me to try and make the most of itThanks for all of that work Fredblue it's appreciated.
So what happened to this bluray?
Listening to the quad again afraid to play the stereo tracks and become unhappy with this.
I notice to me the sound particularly the vocals is somewhat muffled compared to say the Mingus guess thats the way it is.
The orchestra reminds me of Sinatra recordings its as if he just finished a session and the Spinners ran in to record with them before they had to leave
fret ye not! i think it's very much salvageable with some level adjustments and perhaps a sprinkling of EQ to suit one's taste? certainly going through the channels with a fine-toothed comb i could tell the sound quality within each one of those channels is leaps and bounds ahead of what's on the old Quad tape and LPBummer.
This was probably my most anticipated Quadio yetβ¦have not received mine to dateβ¦but the comments on the mix are drowning my enthusiasm
i agree, the Rear pair's fine for the most part (where drums and bass reside in Stereo) with a couple of exceptions, the most egregious of which is track 6 where Rear Right is way too loud.I can't speak to that, having never hear the quad LP.
But I can say with almost complete certainty that the music on the tracks sounds balanced while the vocals do not.
Check for yourself on "Don't Let The Green Grass", which has big-band horns in stereo across the front. They sound balanced to me while the vocal does not. See if you hear it the same or not.