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What gives with the Bengals? They looked like an up and coming bunch that went to the Super Bowl last year, but are a .500 team. The Browns beat them soundly last night.
The Rams record is even worse, but they deserve it because of those silly royal-on-royal uniforms. LOL (Do they still wear them?)
The Rams record is even worse, but they deserve it because of those silly royal-on-royal uniforms. LOL (Do they still wear them?)
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My opinion from last night are the Browns are a more balanced team, and if the QB is playing well, they can beat most teams.
Arguably the all-time biggest "if" in NFL football.
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It would seem in many other cases to be better described as "if the offensive line is playing well/not too banged up with injuries" for any given team.
You can win with a backup QB so long as the line play is solid, and thats both pass protection, and the ability to threaten with a credible rushing attack.
Yes…squared. A great O-line keeps their defense off the field and the other team‘s defense on the field. How many games have we seen where a defense falls apart late in the game because they are gassed?
I'm Steve Mariucci. And this is a sad tale of the tape
Detroit Lions Head Coaching History
| Head Coach | Years | Record | Win percentage | Playoff record |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dan Campbell | 2021-2022 | 4-19-1 | 18.8% | 0-0 |
| Matt Patricia | 2018-2020 | 13-29-1 | 31.4% | 0-0 |
| Darrell Bevell | 2020 | 1-4-0 | 20.0% | 0-0 |
| Jim Caldwell | 2014-2017 | 36-28-0 | 56.3% | 0-2 |
| Jim Schwartz | 2009-2013 | 29-51-0 | 36.3% | 0-1 |
| Rod Marinelli | 2006-2008 | 10-38-0 | 20.8% | 0-0 |
| Dick Jauron | 2005 | 5-11-0 | 31.3% | 0-0 |
| Steve Mariucci | 2003-2005 | 16-32-0 | 33.3% | 0-0 |
| Marty Mornhinweg | 2001-2002 | 5-27-0 | 15.6% | 0-0 |
| Gary Moeller | 2000 | 9-7-0 | 56.3% | 0-0 |
| Bobby Ross | 1997-2000 | 31-33-0 | 48.4% | 0-2 |
| Wayne Fontes | 1989-1996 | 64-64-0 | 50.0% | 1-3 |
| Darryl Rogers | 1985-1988 | 20-43-0 | 31.7% | 0-0 |
| Monte Clark | 1978-1984 | 43-61-1 | 41.4% | 0-2 |
| Tommy Hudspeth | 1976-1977 | 12-16-0 | 42.9% | 0-0 |
| Rick Forzano | 1974-1976 | 20-22-0 | 47.6% | 0-0 |
| Don McCafferty | 1973 | 6-7-1 | 46.4% | 0-0 |
| Joe Schmidt | 1967-1972 | 43-34-7 | 55.4% | 0-1 |
| Harry Gilmer | 1965-1966 | 10-16-2 | 39.3% | 0-0 |
| George Wilson | 1957-1964 | 53-45-6 | 53.8% | 2-0 |
| Buddy Parker | 1950-1956 | 53-29-2 | 64.3% | 3-1 |
| Bo McMillin | 1948-1950 | 12-24-0 | 33.3% | 0-0 |
| Gus Dorais | 1943-1947 | 20-31-2 | 39.6% | 0-0 |
| Bill Edwards | 1941-1942 | 4-17-1 | 20.5% | 0-0 |
| Bull Karcis | 1942 | 0-11-0 | 0.0% | 0-0 |
| Potsy Clark | 1931-1936, 1940 | 53-24-7 | 67.3% | 1-0 |
| Gus Henderson | 1939 | 6-5-0 | 54.5% | 0-0 |
| Dutch Clark | 1937-1938 | 14-8-0 | 63.6% | 0-0 |
| Hal Griffen | 1930 | 5-6-3 | 46.4% | 0-0 |
Well then, unlike Marinelli, you didn't produce an 0-16 season. Or am I missing something?
You know, Mariucci, having you contributing to this thread has given me a new appreciation of the true Detroit Lion's fan.
SACD_ripper
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Wow, the Jim Caldwell era looking like somewhat of a recent golden era, comparatively speaking.
RIP legendary punter Ray Guy.
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Wow... Detroit is a really tough place to win at. When you look at the numbers, it's very telling.
Just go ask the Lions 1942 coach Bull Karcis. He went 0-11 in his 1 year @ the helm.
Great name there.
...& now back to reality; I can see the Lions beating GB this wk. They tend to give GB fits in Detroit & besides GB is heading downward fast.
Im not seeing it. Rodgers. Their season is in limbo. Cheezies come out pissed. My Lions lose by 17 and the boo birds come out in force. ( Please Lord, prove me wrong. ).
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You beat us the last game of the yr. @ Detroit. Granted, the game didn't mean that much at the time for GB.
But GB has now lost 4 in a row. Rodgers isn't the QB he was before, he has virtually no wrs. & O-line has been bad. GB lost 3 wrs & 2 O-linemen from last years team. Some wanted out... I wonder why?.. & some they couldn't afford to pay since after 'greedy' Rodgers took his 42M they couldn't pay all the rest.
Seriously, I wish they would have traded him. I know of other gb fans who feel the same way! Some team probably would have over paid like Denver did for R.Wilson. Look at Denver now?
The 'Cheezies' lack motivation. LaFleur is in over his head. No way Lions loss by 17. The last four games against GB when Detroit was home & lost, they lost by 7,3,7 & 4 points. Plus, there were a few games in there that Detroit won.
GB is only a 3.5 point favorite.
In the past, the old Silverdom was a bad place to play for GB. Ford field isn't much better! Though, it seems the lighting is better!
Yes, I know I sound bitter
....I guess we'll see Sunday...
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You beat us the last game of the yr. @ Detroit. Granted, the game didn't mean that much at the time for GB.
But GB has now lost 4 in a row. Rodgers isn't the QB he was before, he has virtually no wrs. & O-line has been bad. GB lost 3 wrs & 2 O-linemen from last years team. Some wanted out... I wonder why?.. & some they couldn't afford to pay since after 'greedy' Rodgers took his 42M they couldn't pay all the rest.
Seriously, I wish they would have traded him. I know of other gb fans who feel the same way! Some team probably would have over paid like Denver did for R.Wilson. Look at Denver now?
The 'Cheezies' lack motivation. LaFleur is in over his head. No way Lions loss by 17. The last four games against GB when Detroit was home & lost, they lost by 7,3,7 & 4 points. Plus, there were a few games in there that Detroit won.
GB is only a 3.5 point favorite.
In the past, the old Silverdom was a bad place to play for GB. Ford field isn't much better! Though, it seems the lighting is better!
Yes, I know I sound bitter
totally agree that Rodgers should have been traded. He has lost his desire, his drive. It was all about the money. He and his agent 'played' the Packers pretty bad and the GB management cowered and caved in. That sent toxicity into the lockerroom. I like the Pack. Have always had respect on how the organization was managed and the product they put on the field. Management bungled the Rodgers situation and its sad to see the results. I think the Pack is going to be mediocre for a few years until they retool. But - overall imbobman - you should not be bitter. Look at the run you guys have had. Lets just hope the retool does not take 65 plus years like some other team I know
I stand by my prediction. Pack by 17
You beat us the last game of the yr. @ Detroit. Granted, the game didn't mean that much at the time for GB.
But GB has now lost 4 in a row. Rodgers isn't the QB he was before, he has virtually no wrs. & O-line has been bad. GB lost 3 wrs & 2 O-linemen from last years team. Some wanted out... I wonder why?.. & some they couldn't afford to pay since after 'greedy' Rodgers took his 42M they couldn't pay all the rest.
Seriously, I wish they would have traded him. I know of other gb fans who feel the same way! Some team probably would have over paid like Denver did for R.Wilson. Look at Denver now?
The 'Cheezies' lack motivation. LaFleur is in over his head. No way Lions loss by 17. The last four games against GB when Detroit was home & lost, they lost by 7,3,7 & 4 points. Plus, there were a few games in there that Detroit won.
GB is only a 3.5 point favorite.
In the past, the old Silverdom was a bad place to play for GB. Ford field isn't much better! Though, it seems the lighting is better!
Yes, I know I sound bitter
I love to hear you two going back and forth here. They don't call it "The Black and Blue" division for nothing.
Strange and lovely things can happen for a home dog in a rivalry game, however my prediction is:Packers by a field goal...late.
I love to hear you two going back and forth here. They don't call it "The Black and Blue" division for nothing.
Packers by a field goal...late.
whats ironic here is that Im trying to convince him that his team is going to win and he is trying to convince me that my team will win. Isnt it supposed to be " your team blows and my team is world dominant - Lions by 62 - easily ! " Where is the chest thumping and braggadocio by either one of us ?
We must be grounded QQ gentlemen.
gosh this discussion got my mind wandering
I miss the Bill Swerski's Superfans skits on SNL. A blast to revisit
here is a revisit
I miss the Bill Swerski's Superfans skits on SNL. A blast to revisit
here is a revisit
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That's what I mean by Black and Blue division...You fight each other even by claiming that your respective team is going to lose.whats ironic here is that Im trying to convince him that his team is going to win and he is trying to convince me that my team will win. Isnt it supposed to be " your team blows and my team is world dominant - Lions by 62 - easily ! " Where is the chest thumping and braggadocio by either one of us ?
We must be grounded QQ gentlemen.
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Maybe that way we are not so disappointed when they do loss
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