A good thing about the "Würm" outro (like that of Floyd's "Comfortably Numb") is that as the rhythmic vamp allows for so many different solos on top of it, the song can go on for a very long time, and never need be the same again.
Steven Wilson The Yes Album 4CD/LP/Blu-Ray Super Deluxe box coming November 24 (with Steven Wilson Dolby Atmos mix!)
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watsontr
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A pity that the first two albums never received a surround mix
missing multi's maybe?
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It would be nice if SDE puts out a stand alone Blu ray like they did with ABC's Lexicon of Love.
fourml8r
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close to the edge was my favorite yes album growing up. this was until the yes album (SW remix 5.1) came out. that is now my reference yes disc. i am stoked about a Steven Wilson atmos version. would prefer a standalone disc but will likely pony up for a box set if that is my only option.
I fully agree, It's sad the industry is so greedy. I can't imagine there are many customers
out there that are over the moon happy at the thought of buying this huge, expensive set of
both vinyl and optical media. I'm sure the majority have their sights focused on either one or the other, only a small subset of folks are pure collectors of these big boxes..
And then they wonder why "IP theft" is so rampant.
reidc
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You know- its kind of a damned in they do and damned if they don't kinda scenario! I agree with much of what has been written above, as I already have most of the SW 5.1 Blu-ray mixes that I want already(missing Relayer, but won't pay an arm and leg for it). I already have TYA, Fragile and CTTE. TFTTO doesn't tempt me.
I just bought an ATMOS capable AVR, but I have a 5.1 setup speaker wise and don't really have a lot of real estate in my room for more speakers. I thoroughly enjoy my MC-SACD's and BD's with what I have, and simply can't see paying a good sum of money for these inflated all-in-one SDE's.
On the other hand- I'm happy that there is some interest in bringing this music back to life, as the 5.1's have been OOP for a few years. Bring out a BD only(Ala Rhino's recent campaign), and I'd probably bite on Relayer!
Chris
I just bought an ATMOS capable AVR, but I have a 5.1 setup speaker wise and don't really have a lot of real estate in my room for more speakers. I thoroughly enjoy my MC-SACD's and BD's with what I have, and simply can't see paying a good sum of money for these inflated all-in-one SDE's.
On the other hand- I'm happy that there is some interest in bringing this music back to life, as the 5.1's have been OOP for a few years. Bring out a BD only(Ala Rhino's recent campaign), and I'd probably bite on Relayer!
Chris
There is still a chance there could be a standalone package like PF Animals, right?I fully agree, It's sad the industry is so greedy. I can't imagine there are many customers
out there that are over the moon happy at the thought of buying this huge, expensive set of
both vinyl and optical media. I'm sure the majority have their sights focused on either one or the other, only a small subset of folks are pure collectors of these big boxes..
And then they wonder why "IP theft" is so rampant.
We haven’t seen an official announcement yet have we?
From your lips to Gods ear.
SW's Yes mixes are great, and he did an excellent job cleaning up old tape artifacts / clarity issues without making the mix sound murky or artificially crisp. Great that listeners have a chance to get this album as its been out of print for quite a while. CttE in particular is amazing.
When a great 5.1 exists, it's a hard sell, for me, to pay big bucks for an Atmos mix.
Like King Crimson In the Court 50th with the SW 5.1 re-remix vs. the huge 1969 box that came out shortly after, with Atmos.
Is the Atmos going to be THAT much better? Big dollars better?
Like King Crimson In the Court 50th with the SW 5.1 re-remix vs. the huge 1969 box that came out shortly after, with Atmos.
Is the Atmos going to be THAT much better? Big dollars better?
As with Who's Next, I'm just glad to see that the option to purchase a Blu-Ray (even if it's not the inexpensive standalone edition many of us would prefer) is there - especially as this is a Warner/Rhino property, and not many of their Atmos titles have gotten physical releases.
I'm sure anyone who's on the fence about the box will be able to preview the Atmos mix via streaming - personally, I think it's a considerable upgrade over the old 5.1. In fact, it's got some of the boldest use of the top speakers I've heard in any Atmos mix to date...
I'm sure anyone who's on the fence about the box will be able to preview the Atmos mix via streaming - personally, I think it's a considerable upgrade over the old 5.1. In fact, it's got some of the boldest use of the top speakers I've heard in any Atmos mix to date...
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As someone who purchased the 1969 KC box set, I can say with absolute conviction that SW's Atmos mix of ITCOTCK really is THAT much better. For me, it's the only way I ever want to hear that album going forward. BUT, as a collector of the big KC box sets, I was always going to purchase 1969 anyway. There is a lot to enjoy in that big box other than the Atmos mix, at least for me, but I would never recommend buying it if the only item of interest was the Atmos mix. I've passed on other Atmos mixes for Pink Floyd, Rush and the Who that I would really like to own because I'm just not that big a fan and I've drawn a line over what I'm willing to pay for a single mix that's locked in an expensive box with a whole lot of stuff I don't want.
Every one has to make this kind of decision based on their finances and love for a particular group. But I think it's always rotten to exclusively embed Atmos/surround mixes in bloated box sets, especially if they contain media like vinyl and silly swag which have nothing to do with multichannel music. As for King Crimson, I'm hoping the upcoming Atmos reissues are reasonably packaged as standalone BD's or CD/BD's rather than a rehash of the big boxes that have already been done, otherwise, I'll be likely to pass. If the price gouging continues, the number of buyers will dwindle, and the main beneficiary may well be the streaming services.
Yes it is.
Debatable, but was the 5.1, or Atmos mix of Dark Side something I'd be happy living without?
OH HELL NO. LOL
Yes, that's exactly the point. It also depends on how much you love the band. I would buy any KC box set without thinking twice, and the same applies to Jethro Tull, VDGG or Ultravox. I know I will listen to the CDs, DVDs and Blu-ray discs multiple times, and I will read the booklets, but I would never do the same for bands like Yes or The Pineapple Thief. I would probably buy a stand-alone Blu-ray because I can listen to it once and shelve it. For me, it's always about how much I enjoy the music. While surround releases are a good way to discover new bands, it's also easy to identify music you won't like through a quick listen via streaming services...
If the price is in the range of the Tull boxes, then I’m in. Otherwise, forget about it, even if it’s a considerable upgrade over the 5.1. Why? Simply because I’m not a big Yes fan. If I was, I’d plunk down the money for this box.
JediJoker
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Given that it will contain vinyl and a Blu-ray, I don't think Tull prices are a reasonable point of comparison, outside of the original Aqualung 40th box. What was its original MSRP?
Thinking about it, given that the box contains both digital and vinyl makes it easier for people to go in on it as a duo with one taking the LP's and the other the Blu-ray. Hmmmm?
