Apple Joining the Atmos streaming game!

[harync]

huh, early engineers were obsessed with laying down as many tracks as possible, not the other way around?

Today, it's accepted (which is why music sucks ass today), but back then was fought against until resistance (against the Studio) was futile

I think defining "early" is critical here. Tidal has a number of recordings from the 1960s. A lot of those recording sessions used 4-track machines. Perhaps more problematically, they sometimes merged four tracks onto one track to make more tracks available. It wasn't until the 1970s that 16-tracks or beyond became commonplace.

Not sure what your second comment is trying to say? Because artists today have unlimited access to recording tracks, their music sucks?

 

[harync]

apple hopped on to Dolby because of FOMO, not the other way around

Proof?

I can imagine Dolby begging Apple to join, promising many new subscribers (or stealing Tidal subscribers) and Apple agreeing to build it's music streaming service. I don't see Apple begging Dolby to have Atmos tracks for FOMO. Apple could buy Dolby 50 times over.

Dolby Laboratories revenue for the twelve months ending March 31, 2021 was $1.228B
Apple MUSIC revenue estimate for 2020 was $4.1B
Apple revenue for the twelve months ending March 31, 2021 was $325.406B

 

[J. PUPSTER]

I'm wondering if the main reason those earlier recordings sound like an up-mix is simply due to how recordings were done in that era; sometimes with few tracks and open performance space in the studios creating channel bleed-through, effectively being non-discrete from the get go.

sorry, guess I wasn’t clear; I was mainly referring to mic bleed

 

[Strilo]

"Music sucks today" is the quickest way to lose all credibility, in my eyes. Nothing screams "my mind is closed" more than that.

 

[J. PUPSTER]

would sure love to hear some Atmos movie scores come out - like:

Hans Zimmer -Interstellar / Gladiator

Alexandre Desplat - The Curious Case of Benjamin Button / The Painted Veil etc.

Wendy Carlos - A Clockwork Orange

Vangelis - Blade Runner

Jeremy Soule - Skyrim (OK game)

 

[Old Quad Guy]

This is absolutely great news. There are well over 100 great Quad titles not yet re-released on any modern disc format on Tidal, right there in 4 of the channels of Atmos, perfectly intact. This should mean Apple will have these as well, bringing Quad to a huge market.

 

[harync]

This is absolutely great news. There are well over 100 great Quad titles not yet re-released on any modern discs on Tidal right there in 4 of the channels of Atmos, perfectly intact. This should mean Apple will have these as well, bringing Quad to a huge market.

Any particular Quad titles you recommend checking out on Tidal?

As mentioned numerous times, the Tidal search/user interface is lousy. Hopefully it will be much easier to find Atmos/Quad music with Apple.

 

[Old Quad Guy]

Any particular Quad titles you recommend checking out on Tidal?

As mentioned numerous times, the Tidal search/user interface is lousy. Hopefully it will be much easier to find Atmos/Quad music with Apple.

Yes. Aerosmith “Rocks” and “Get Your Wings.” The Isley Brothers titles are there. “Bridge Over Troubled Water” and “Santana 3” is there - as I understand it. The list is long as I understand it. We should create a new thread that lists everything.

EDIT: Technically, one would maybe call these Quad Atmos upmixes. But the core 4 channel mix is there as I understand it, at least on some titles. Perhaps it’s not so cut and dry because it’s been fuzzed with in Atmos. So it would be good to get more confirmation what is what, as we have here:

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/fo...eils-sony-360-reality-audio.27285/post-560774
https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/threads/aerosmith-get-your-wings.30384/post-559556

 

[J. PUPSTER]

Not much info IMO on this thin Apple TV 4K review and little mention of Atmos
-I've been wondering if it's any benefit to get the 64 GB vs 32 GB version?

https://www.soundandvision.com/content/hands-second-generation-apple-tv-4k

 

[HomerJAU]

Probably no benefit in higher RAM as you’ll either stream you content or play from files over a network.

I noticed on Apple website that you get 12 months subscription to Apple Music when you purchase a new AppleTV box.

 

[olgitnorm]

Probably no benefit in higher RAM as you’ll either stream you content or play from files over a network.

I noticed on Apple website that you get 12 months subscription to Apple Music when you purchase a new AppleTV box.

Can you post a link to that can only see free ATV+ for 12 months maybe not available in UK?

 

[César]

Can you post a link to that can only see free ATV+ for 12 months maybe not available in UK?

Same here, I only got 12 free months of Apple TV (gently extended to 14). For Apple Music, I was only able to enroll a 3 months free trial

 

[JediJoker]

Probably no benefit in higher RAM as you’ll either stream you content or play from files over a network.

This isn't RAM; it's internal non-volatile storage. I doubt there's any difference in RAM between the two models, and it's probably 8GB or less.

 

[J. PUPSTER]

This isn't RAM; it's internal non-volatile storage. I doubt there's any difference in RAM between the two models, and it's probably 8GB or less.

OK then -I've been wondering if it's any benefit to get the 64 GB vs 32 GB version?

 

[Strilo]

Only if you plan to play video games.

 

[HomerJAU]

This isn't RAM

I used the wrong term . But 32GB storage is more than you need for streaming and network playback.

These devices don’t need much memory at all for video and audio playback. For example, Kodi can do 4K video and Atmos with 1GB RAM, all the audio and video processing is done by hardware.

 

[humprof]

I used the wrong term . But 32GB storage is more than you need for streaming and network playback.

These devices don’t need much memory at all for video and audio playback. For example, Kodi can do 4K video and Atmos with 1GB RAM, all the audio and video processing is done by hardware.

I thought the RAM on these devices was more like the internal RAM on a mobile phone: the OS takes up relatively little space, but as you add more apps, you quickly run out of room. For instance: I got a Fire Stick 4K last year when Tidal added Atmos. By the time I'd downloaded and installed the apps for four or five non-Amazon streaming services (Tidal, Netflix, Hulu, etc.), there was very little storage space left.

 

[HomerJAU]

For instance: I got a Fire Stick 4K

How much storage on the Fire Stick? I have a iPad with quite a few apps (a hundred probably) and those use very little space.

 

[JediJoker]

I thought the RAM on these devices was more like the internal RAM on a mobile phone: the OS takes up relatively little space, but as you add more apps, you quickly run out of room.

Please stop calling it "RAM." It's storage, like hard disk space on a computer. The RAM is something else.

 

[humprof]

Please stop calling it "RAM." It's storage, like hard disk space on a computer. The RAM is something else.

Okay, okay. Thanks for the correction. (For what it's worth, the Fire TV Stick 4K has 1.5GB of RAM.)

How much storage on the Fire Stick? I have a iPad with quite a few apps (a hundred probably) and those use very little space.

8GB of internal storage on the Fire TV Stick 4K--technically. Only 5.34GB available. (I assume the OS takes up the other 2.66GB?) And with the programs pre-installed on the stick, plus the handful that I downloaded, there's just a little over 1GB of storage remaining.