BIG Blu-Ray Audio drive from Universal Music in 2013

[0tto]

I really don't want to continue saying this, but, as usual, this is a half-hearted attempted to bring audiophile caliber music to the general public ... bummer.

there were lots of similar inovation from big labels in past, which went to nowhere.
if you analyse latest trend, BD-A/DVD-A comes from them only if artists insist on this.
hard to expect, that time changed anything in this kingdom of greed and stupidity even on
the brink of extinction. if there something to expect, then it will be from small independed
labels or directly from an artists.

 

[Quad Linda]

Welcome to the 21st century. We're all just numbers.

same here. they ask for feedback and blow you off!

 

[bmoura]

Or, the left hand, doesn't know what the right hands doing ! ?

That certainly happens as well. We've seen SACD and DVD-A releases in Europe that never made it to the US market.
And who could forget when Warner Hong Kong was releasing SACDs and Warner U.S. was denying that these SACDs were on the market?

 

[cupboy]

Yea, I still want that Madonna SACD. Did it really exist?

 

[bmoura]

Yea, I still want that Madonna SACD. Did it really exist?

I doubt it. I suspect it was one of a number of erroneous SACD listings on Amazon from the Hi Rez era.

 

[Dixie4]

I doubt it. I suspect it was one of a number of erroneous SACD listings on Amazon from the Hi Rez era.

I remember reading ( when DVD-Audio was going to be launched ) that there would be Madonna titles.....I only started collecting DVD-A last year, was disappointed to find there were no Madge titles available.

 

[Dixie4]

I sent an enquiry about these discs to Universal Music Store Direct.....I've received a response saying that there are no plans to release any titles, but they are aware of demand for these products, and they will now be considered for future release.

( I have politely replied, saying there are titles being released two weeks from now ! )

I have received a further reply....

Hello Robert,

Thank you for your reply e mail,

We are not affiliated with the website you have listed previously, and am not at liberty to comment on another website, not affiliated with Universal Music.
I can only relay the information I have been given by the e-commerce team, at the time of your query.
I am sorry for any inconvenience caused and please let me know if I can help further.
Thank you,

 

[fredblue]

I have received a further reply....

Hello Robert,

Thank you for your reply e mail,

We are not affiliated with the website you have listed previously, and am not at liberty to comment on another website, not affiliated with Universal Music.
I can only relay the information I have been given by the e-commerce team, at the time of your query.
I am sorry for any inconvenience caused and please let me know if I can help further.
Thank you,

Just as you said the other day, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing...

 

[Dixie4]

Just as you said the other day, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing...

The first e mail I received......

Hello Robert,

Thank you for your e mail regarding the release of BD-A ( High Fidelity, Pure Audio ) and 5.1 surround sound.

After speaking with our release department, I have been advised that at this moment in time, there are no plans to make available any items for the above format. However, in contacting them, they are now aware that there is a demand for the product, and it will now be considered for future release.
All i can recommend, is that you keep in touch with the Universal Music / Deutsche Grammophon / Decca, web store for all updates. The link for which is highlighted below


" I Was Lost In France ". ( Looking for a BD-A )....or should that be a bi..d..et !! ?

 

[fredblue]

The first e mail I received......

Hello Robert,

Thank you for your e mail regarding the release of BD-A ( High Fidelity, Pure Audio ) and 5.1 surround sound.

After speaking with our release department, I have been advised that at this moment in time, there are no plans to make available any items for the above format. However, in contacting them, they are now aware that there is a demand for the product, and it will now be considered for future release.
All i can recommend, is that you keep in touch with the Universal Music / Deutsche Grammophon / Decca, web store for all updates. The link for which is highlighted below


" I Was Lost In France ". ( Looking for a BD-A )....or should that be a bi..d..et !! ?

Hahaha!!!! I dunno about finding a bidet, this lot couldn't run a bath let alone run a record company..!!

 

[Dixie4]

Hahaha!!!! I dunno about finding a bidet, this lot couldn't run a bath let alone run a record company..!!

 

[Bender]

So bummed these are all stereo only...even the Diana Krall, which already was 5.1 mixed and released.
High res surround. Is it too much to ask?

 

[fredblue]

So bummed these are all stereo only...even the Diana Krall, which already was 5.1 mixed and released.
High res surround. Is it too much to ask?

I'm still waiting on a response from either of the two Universal employees I contacted (links given in the Universal Brands News Page I linked to earlier in this thread) asking specifically about 5.1 on these new BDA's.. while it would be great to know categorically if these are all just 2.0, I'd take any reply (even a formulaic response or an "I don't know, not my department" kind of thing, which is what Dixie4 Rob has got so far from his enquiries) as decency/common courtesy over just plain being ignored by both of them, it's disappointing and it's rude.

 

[Dixie4]

I'm still waiting on a response from either of the two Universal employees I contacted (links given in the Universal Brands News Page I linked to earlier in this thread) asking specifically about 5.1 on these new BDA's.. while it would be great to know categorically if these are all just 2.0, I'd take any reply (even a formulaic response or an "I don't know, not my department" kind of thing, which is what Dixie4 Rob has got so far from his enquiries) as decency/common courtesy over just plain being ignored by both of them, it's disappointing and it's rude.

I think the most truthful & genuine response has been from cdjapan.

If Universal want to push these discs, then their start to it ( with very little information ) is extremely disappointing !

 

[Quad Linda]

Rude is the new normal. :yikes

I'm still waiting on a response from either of the two Universal employees I contacted (links given in the Universal Brands News Page I linked to earlier in this thread) asking specifically about 5.1 on these new BDA's.. while it would be great to know categorically if these are all just 2.0, I'd take any reply (even a formulaic response or an "I don't know, not my department" kind of thing, which is what Dixie4 Rob has got so far from his enquiries) as decency/common courtesy over just plain being ignored by both of them, it's disappointing and it's rude.

 

[fredblue]

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/050113_1515

I wonder why Bill Hunt feels so strongly with regards to physical media for movies but is just content with the music situation.. that's a big rant right there and I'm inclined to agree with some of what he says in Rant #2.. but things are no better with music than movies, it's all slipping away from our cold old hands!

I am not at all happy with the state of things in the music world re: the death of physical discs.. and I will reject downloads for albums/movies where I want the best quality A/V reproduction only until there is absolutely no physical disc alternative available at all.

I'm more than happy to continue to pay for discs that I can:
1.) play to my hearts' content on as many devices as I choose,
2.) that I can sell on when I get bored of them, or smash up and chuck in the bin if I want to.

the quality is paramount to me and thats as much of a motivating force in feeling so strongly about physical product.. but with discs you physically own there comes a certain freedom, the liberty to own/dispose and use as you like comes with the price tag.. and the big boys hate that, they want to control your so-called "ownership" of music and movies (with a download you own nothing tangible/physical) and that's not for me.

I'd rather listen to the radio for free than pay for shit quality downloads that are never really something in my actual possession and never something I can see/touch/sell/toss in the garbage as I see fit..!!!

you pays yer money you takes yer choice. I choose to spend my money on discs, So I am in charge - so NER..!!!

 

[leevitalone1]

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/050113_1515

I wonder why Bill Hunt feels so strongly with regards to physical media for movies but is just content with the music situation.. that's a big rant right there and I'm inclined to agree with some of what he says in Rant #2.. but things are no better with music than movies, it's all slipping away from our cold old hands!

I am not at all happy with the state of things in the music world re: the death of physical discs.. and I will reject downloads for albums/movies where I want the best quality A/V reproduction only until there is absolutely no physical disc alternative available at all.

I'm more than happy to continue to pay for discs that I can:
1.) play to my hearts' content on as many devices as I choose,
2.) that I can sell on when I get bored of them, or smash up and chuck in the bin if I want to.

the quality is paramount to me and thats as much of a motivating force in feeling so strongly about physical product.. but with discs you physically own there comes a certain freedom, the liberty to own/dispose and use as you like comes with the price tag.. and the big boys hate that, they want to control your so-called "ownership" of music and movies (with a download you own nothing tangible/physical) and that's not for me.

I'd rather listen to the radio for free than pay for shit quality downloads that are never really something in my actual possession and never something I can see/touch/sell/toss in the garbage as I see fit..!!!

you pays yer money you takes yer choice. I choose to spend my money on discs, So I am in charge - so NER..!!!

YEA! I see hulu-vudu-BB-Amazon doing movies along with the PPV both formats. Years ago, I had Directv, who offered a better PQ than what I could get from vhs. I bought all the progressive receivers with s-video then component video, then DD out put, now, they can't touch what I get home with my Oppo BD player. PQ, and more importantly-AUDIO!!
They can't give me a show that won't break up at some point or worse. I cannot see the bandwidth avail. for the ability to do high res audio with HD PQ. Even if it was possible in future, they would have to replace all the old lines used now to optic, even then would it carry lossless audio?
For me, a movie is just as important for lossless sound as music. Why else did we ssspend all this cash on good equipment? I saw at another forum where a response to a po about audio it said core DTS was as good as lossless. Holy shit! what planet are you from? Got your self a wally world sound system?
Eveyone wants it - now and fast, too tired to drive up to BB to get a movie? LIke a fast food drive up lane.
You get hamburger-monoxide. Shit food that makes you sick. no difference-shit audio makes you sick too!

 

[mattB2]

Interesting that Amazon.fr classes the Supertramp Blu-ray as a DVD Audio disc. Let the confusion begin...

 

[fredblue]

Interesting that Amazon.fr classes the Supertramp Blu-ray as a DVD Audio disc. Let the confusion begin...

http://www.amazon.fr/Breakfast-Amer...1155&sr=8-1&keywords=Supertramp+blu+ray+audio

oh gawd....

something else about this BDA trial fiasco (or whatever it is!??..) that puzzles me.. does FNAC have the same sort of status as a Best Buy or is it more like Borders (i.e. classier and more specialised!) ..only I can't work out why you'd give exclusive rights to Fnac (who won't/can't ship outside of France) and not Amazon (amazon.fr ships all over the place!)... unless UMe can't (distribution rights, etc.?) or don't want to (why on earth!?) sell these outside of France..?!? @:

worse still, it looks like Amazon (forget the French bit) Amazon USA, UK and everywhere else can't be arsed with importing these BDA's.. or if they are they're taking their sweet old time about getting pre-orders up..!!!

..the 13th will come and go and people all over the world (not tons but more than just in France) will have been unable to buy any of these when they would have done if they could.. the whole thing will be seen as a flop.. and get scrapped before they even got round to doing any bloody surround stuff..!!!!

dumb and dumber-euse....

 

[fredblue]

on a personal note I've given up and decided to stick a two-fingered salute right up at these "bidet-A's" and spend all the money I'd allocated to buy a stack of these with on a load of OOP SACDs & DVD-A's instead (most of them may be approx 10 years old but at least they'll have surround on them and I can get them sent to me in jolly old England, unlike these 2013 blu-ray jobs). pathetic.