DVD Audio Extractor possible issues with latest version?

[LuvMyQuad]

error see post below

 

[Marplot]

Is MakeMKV an exact copy (ie lossless)?

Not exact since the media structures differ, but the resulting mkv file will match media format.
for example, from a blueray
Stream #0:1: Audio: dts (DTS-HD MA), 192000 Hz, quad(side), s32p (24 bit) (default)
Stream #0:2: Audio: dts (DTS), 48000 Hz, quad(side), fltp, 1536 kb/s
Stream #0:3: Audio: dts (DTS-HD MA), 192000 Hz, stereo, s32p (24 bit)
Stream #0:4: Audio: dts (DTS), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 1536 kb/s

 

[Marplot]

Full disclosure, I use ffmpeg to extract the audio streams.
The DTS-HD MA I keep in that format (ffmpeg -i $File -map 0:1 -vn -sn -acodec copy $OutputDTSHDMA), everything else I convert to mch or stereo flac. (no -acodec copy)

 

[LuvMyQuad]

It creates a lossless copy of the DTS-MA or Dolby True-HD PCM stream as WAV or FLAC. It does not output a DTS or Dolby clone copy. It will also not preserve Atmos metadata.

Im sorry... what I wrote is in regard to DVD-AE capabilities not MKV.

 

[LuvMyQuad]

Not exact since the media structures differ, but the resulting mkv file will match media format.
for example, from a blueray
Stream #0:1: Audio: dts (DTS-HD MA), 192000 Hz, quad(side), s32p (24 bit) (default)
Stream #0:2: Audio: dts (DTS), 48000 Hz, quad(side), fltp, 1536 kb/s
Stream #0:3: Audio: dts (DTS-HD MA), 192000 Hz, stereo, s32p (24 bit)
Stream #0:4: Audio: dts (DTS), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 1536 kb/s

I'm not sure what you mean by the "media structures differ". Aren't those audio streams exact clones of whats on the disc?

 

[atrocity]

I'm not sure what you mean by the "media structures differ". Aren't those audio streams exact clones of whats on the disc?

MakeMKV does not by default re-encode, re-render, etc. It just copies the bits into an MKV container.

 

[himey]

Keep in mind if you want an exact copy of the disc without encryption, MakeMKV will do that too.

Before scanning the disc, use the backup feature. Once you scan the disc you lose that option.

 

[Marplot]

I did not know that, thank you Himey.

 

[madship]

Keep in mind if you want an exact copy of the disc without encryption, MakeMKV will do that too.

Before scanning the disc, use the backup feature. Once you scan the disc you lose that option.

I’m new to backing up my discs. What do you mean by scan the disc? Is that prior to inserting the disc or using DVD AE to get the disc info?

 

[Marplot]

the disc scan is a makemkv step. I always run straight to it and just keep the mkv output on an external sata should I wish to revisit them. Now I wonder if I should have dumped as a backup instead. ..

 

[JediJoker]

Keep in mind if you want an exact copy of the disc without encryption, MakeMKV will do that too.

Before scanning the disc, use the backup feature. Once you scan the disc you lose that option.

Precisely. This is what you want to do in order to use DVD Audio Extractor to rip from the disc.

 

[himey]

the disc scan is a makemkv step. I always run straight to it and just keep the mkv output on an external sata should I wish to revisit them. Now I wonder if I should have dumped as a backup instead. ..

If you kept all the audio and video streams the only difference are the menus.

 

[Sal1950]

I'm not sure what you mean by the "media structures differ". Aren't those audio streams exact clones of whats on the disc?

MakeMKV does not by default re-encode, re-render, etc. It just copies the bits into an MKV container.

IME I put the BD disc thru MKV-backup, then the resulting decrypted file thru DVD-AE. DVD-AE will offer to turn the mkv file into flac or wav, offering whatever type of options on the disc, DTS, Dolby, LPCM, 2, or 6ch, whatever as options.. Then I choose one and create say a 6ch flac on the hard drive. But when I play that file back into my AVR, the AVR doesn't recognize that it is a DTS or Dolby file as it does when I play the disc in my BD player. The original date rate (44,88,96,192) is kept in tack and the channel numbers is right but DTS, Dolby, Atmos is stripped.
Is this what the rest of you get?

 

[HomerJAU]

Is this what the rest of you get?

Yes. The FLAC conversion is a lossless decode of the selected audio steam.

If you want to keep DTS-HDMA (or TrueHD/Atmos) you could use Music Media Helper to split the MKV file you created with MakeMKV and copy the DTS-HDMA stream into either an MKA file or M4A file. Both these are just containers that hold the original streams (including TrueHD/Atmos) for decoding by your AVR. Both file formats can be tagged easily.

Note that M4A files with TrueHD/Atmos may not play back on some players as support for TrueHD in M4A (MPEG Audio) files is only new.

 

[Sal1950]

Yes. The FLAC conversion is a lossless decode of the selected audio steam.

Thanks for the responce and info!
As long as the rip is a lossless decode I'm not sure that it matters then anyway.
I may try MMH to see if I can hear any difference but with a Atmos file I would think it would be important? Not getting many Atmos music files yet but soon there may be.
On the Big Phat Band and Bernie Dresler Auro recordings, when I switch manually to Auro3D, I could swear I hear a proper decoding of the Auro stream???

 

[madship]

the disc scan is a makemkv step. I always run straight to it and just keep the mkv output on an external sata should I wish to revisit them. Now I wonder if I should have dumped as a backup instead. ..

Thanks for the reply. I’ve been using the backup feature then using DVD-AE to covert to Flac. Unfortunately when I do this DVD-AE doesn’t find the album info. when using the disc scan method, does DVD-AE pull all the album data?

 

[LuvMyQuad]

Thanks for the reply. I’ve been using the backup feature then using DVD-AE to covert to Flac. Unfortunately when I do this DVD-AE doesn’t find the album info. when using the disc scan method, does DVD-AE pull all the album data?

No. You have to re-tag. It give you the option to retag, but there are several tagging packages that work better

 

[madship]

No. You have to re-tag. It give you the option to retag, but there are several tagging packages that work better

Never heard of a retagging package. Is there one you’d recommend? I’m on a Mac.

 

[Sal1950]

Never heard of a retagging package. Is there one you’d recommend? I’m on a Mac.

Some ripping software will attempt to access tags but I never found one reliable. I do manual editing.

 

[Marplot]

I use Tag&Rename on windows because it is easy to use and I am a bit nutty about my tags.