How we gonna play our discs in the next future?!

[kfbkfb]

IMHO, one danger of having (nearly) all music on servers only (no official physical copies) is that the copy on the servers is subject to "politically correct" editing.

I think the MPA movie rating system should be used for music (obviously, some of the rated things in movies won't apply to music) and the streamable/downloadable music should be restricted like movies are (no editing).


Kirk Bayne

 

[mandrix]

IMHO, one danger of having (nearly) all music on servers only (no official physical copies) is that the copy on the servers is subject to "politically correct" editing.

I think the MPA movie rating system should be used for music (obviously, some of the rated things in movies won't apply to music) and the streamable/downloadable music should be restricted like movies are (no editing).


Kirk Bayne

That's an interesting train of thought I admit I never explored.
Brings to mind lyrics from an old Savoy Brown song....troubled by these days and times...

 

[Sal1950]

Where else can one go and have a respectable discussion about our preferences for music, formats, devices? No matter. We have strong opinions and that's great, and by and large remain civil.
I think that's pretty darn good.
Happy holidays to each and every one of you.

Very well said brother.
Hope your having a wonderful holiday with friends and family today.
Sal

 

[esimms86]

Where else can one go and have a respectable discussion about our preferences for music, formats, devices? No matter. We have strong opinions and that's great, and by and large remain civil.
I think that's pretty darn good.
Happy holidays to each and every one of you.

Well said Mandrix. Happy Holidays to all.

 

[barfle]

We are blessed (or cursed) with a plethora of viable formats. Just MP3s can have a rew dozen different compression levels, fer cryin out loud. And some of us collect truly obscure formats, like my collection of Teleplayer EVR films. There have been some excellent players of these formats over the years, and those of us who have the format care for their players and dread the day when the last spare hanninframis cracks. All good. I even love my SACDs.

May your Christmas, or whatever solstice festival you celebrate, be joyful and spent with those you love.

 

[jimfisheye]

IMHO, one danger of having (nearly) all music on servers only (no official physical copies) is that the copy on the servers is subject to "politically correct" editing.

I think the MPA movie rating system should be used for music (obviously, some of the rated things in movies won't apply to music) and the streamable/downloadable music should be restricted like movies are (no editing).


Kirk Bayne

Is "politically correct editing" a euphemism for "my server crashed and I didn't have backup"?

We have to care for are albums. Same for CDs. Same for computers and hard drives.
The ability to have a backup that is very literally a perfect clone of the source with no generational issues is pretty solid. Some action is required but this can be more robust than before. Keep an offsite backup with some of your friends. (You know, for backup purposes.)

If you mean relying on someone else's server...
Yeah, treat anything you see online as fleeting! Download and save anything useful you find as though you think it will be deleted tomorrow. Sometimes it is! The 20-somethings just blown by the wind with streaming services and no personal collections whatsoever is a little shocking. But then I seem to remember that I was always an outlier keeping a music collection while all my friends just tuned into some radio. The next level up from that was making cheap cassettes on a boombox. Radio became streaming. Similar quality too. Cheap boombox cassettes became mp3s.

 

[Sal1950]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archéophone

I want one, though I can't afford it nor have room to put it.
I have this memory of way back sometime in the early 60s, seeing a original sitting forgotten in a
corner of the barn on my uncles farm. I can remember there being a bunch of cylinders with it that I momentarily picked up and examined a few. I thought about wanting it but never went any further with the idea.

 

[audiomaster]

Why can't we have a scanning device, like a flat bed scanner, the uses a fine beam laser to record all the grooves on a record and then uses software to recover them as audio? No wear and could almost instantly degitise a disc.l

 

[mandrix]

Why can't we have a scanning device, like a flat bed scanner, the uses a fine beam laser to record all the grooves on a record and then uses software to recover them as audio? No wear and could almost instantly degitise a disc.l

Well there is laser TT....

 

[jimfisheye]

I must have forgotten to follow whatever might be going on with optical tech and reading vinyl. Does anyone know where this is at? Is it within available scanning resolution? The ability to cancel out the mechanics like the spiral and all that with the raw image data should have been a done deal 20 years ago computer-wise. Is there some very expensive imaging required to resolve the etched data or something?

Got to add this nowadays: Of course I'm talking about resolving full complete data for full fidelity of signal. Not some novelty thing with "USB turntable" quality.

This just seems like something everyone interested in these recordings would want, right? Why don't I see it going on?

 

[Sal1950]

I must have forgotten to follow whatever might be going on with optical tech and reading vinyl. Does anyone know where this is at? Is it within available scanning resolution? The ability to cancel out the mechanics like the spiral and all that with the raw image data should have been a done deal 20 years ago computer-wise. Is there some very expensive imaging required to resolve the etched data or something?

Got to add this nowadays: Of course I'm talking about resolving full complete data for full fidelity of signal. Not some novelty thing with "USB turntable" quality.

This just seems like something everyone interested in these recordings would want, right? Why don't I see it going on?

Jimmy, in this day and age do your really play your LP's enough to worry over wear and spend a
huge amount of money on them? Use a TOTL MM needle that can track at 1 to 1.5 grams like a Stanton 881S or Shure V15 and mount it in a low mass tone arm. Keep them very clean and that will minimize wear.
Or do a good digital recording of each and put them away.

 

[mandrix]

I must have forgotten to follow whatever might be going on with optical tech and reading vinyl. Does anyone know where this is at? Is it within available scanning resolution? The ability to cancel out the mechanics like the spiral and all that with the raw image data should have been a done deal 20 years ago computer-wise. Is there some very expensive imaging required to resolve the etched data or something?

Got to add this nowadays: Of course I'm talking about resolving full complete data for full fidelity of signal. Not some novelty thing with "USB turntable" quality.

This just seems like something everyone interested in these recordings would want, right? Why don't I see it going on?

I know of one QQ member with a laser TT. He hasn't posted anything back in a while I think so not sure how it's working out.