Listening to in Dolby Atmos Streaming, via Tidal/Apple/Amazon
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I noticed the new Jethro Tull single on the 360 page too, in one of the playlists.
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I screamed in "grunge" when I saw this. Only a cursory listen so far. Will listen in depth really soon!I was really happy with the mix on this:
“Hiding Out In The Open” sounds amazing! Interesting mix approach that really uses the whole space, lead vocal is mostly in the sides (and center) with the backing vocals and acoustic guitars spread all around and above.
I think the so called "spatial audio expert" forgot something, the heights. Sampled 3-4 songs and it's mostly a good 5.1 mix.
Cued up Haken to hear me some real spatial audio.
According to the ATSC standard a lot of reading and tech but here is the link:
https://www.atsc.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/A52-201212-17.pdf
"Optionally, E-AC-3 bit streams may consist of multiple independent substreams (type 0 or 2) or a combination of multiple independent (type 0 and 2) and multiple dependent (type 1) substreams."
"When a bit stream contains a single program with greater than 5.1 channels, independent substream 0 contains a 5.1 channel downmix of the program for compatibility with playback systems containing 5.1 speakers (Figure E3.3)."
"In order to accommodate playback by systems with greater than 5.1 speakers, the E-AC-3 bit stream will carry one or more dependent substreams that contain channels that either replace or supplement the 5.1 channel data carried in independent substream 0."
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Sorry but I don't understand how that fits the context of the ac3 discussion considering ac3 has a maximum of 5.1. The discussion is 5.1 and not greater (7.1). That said, my Oppo reports 7.1 output so to think AC3, and not DD+ is involved in the output, makes it more confusing. My guess is that DD+ in the MAT format is sent as 7.1 PCM, and that is what my Oppo is getting. I just don't see where standard AC3 fits in this.
Basically "E-AC-3" is 7.1 but has embedded in it a "legacy" (for lack of a better word) AC-3 5.1 stream for those that can only get 5.1
As far as it being sent as PCM, that's the ATV upconverting the E-AC-3 to PCM for output.
Often I’ll see something here and add it to my list to listen to later is the samples grab my interest in some way. Listening to this now and what a pleasant album.
Yet another artist I likely would have never heard of if not for this thread as it’s not in my usual wheelhouse.
I happened to be finishing up the ripping of my KISS Destroyer blu-ray and doing a quick-test of the results.
Musically speaking, it’s a brutal whiplash going back and forth between the two styles of music.
Fantastic Atmos mix on this one, lots of discrete acoustic guitars in the height speakers and even some fun swirling bits. Great music too - sort of sounds like a modern, heavier Moody Blues?
On Apple:
I like the Auro 3D too. I keep trying to find things not to like about it ( cause it’s not “real”) but I haven’t been able to. Nicely opens up, gives more space to most mixes.I love the Auro 3D upmixer, no fake echo or reverberation to my seemingly not so delicate ears.
Got a link for that audio extractor?
After seeing that post the other day I’ve looking around but haven’t found anything that would do what was described. Also keen for a link. Hopefully it can also split the HDMI signal.
I currently have no Atmos capability on my main system and will probably not for a very long time but, 5.1 is still very good for me. My only Atmos source is my Sony Xperia phone. I have sampled a few Atmos tracks via headphones but have been disappointed. The sound does feel clearer but the spatial effect is really subtle. My home and car systems are massively better.
Yesterday I found this neckband on the Sony website Buy SRS-NS7 Wireless Neckband Speaker | Default Value | Sony Store Online | Sony UK
and wondered if any of my fellow QQ friends have any knowledge or experience of it's capability. On the one hand it looks very quirky but then again might be an amazing way to personalise Atmos. To be fair to Sony this does seem the result of 'thinking out of the box' and not for everyone! I definitely could not think of getting it without a demo but it might be brilliant whilst I work in my home office. Any (well...most) comments welcome.
Yesterday I found this neckband on the Sony website Buy SRS-NS7 Wireless Neckband Speaker | Default Value | Sony Store Online | Sony UK
and wondered if any of my fellow QQ friends have any knowledge or experience of it's capability. On the one hand it looks very quirky but then again might be an amazing way to personalise Atmos. To be fair to Sony this does seem the result of 'thinking out of the box' and not for everyone! I definitely could not think of getting it without a demo but it might be brilliant whilst I work in my home office. Any (well...most) comments welcome.
After doing some extensive listening I don't think that anything is coming from the back channels even though my receiver is showing a 7.1 input. Sometimes there is something there I think but not a lot. I am happy with the outcome nevertheless. I don't think I will ever have Atmos anyway as I'm 70 and frankly can't be bothered going any farther than 7.1. The surround mixes from Apple sound great. Here is the extractor.
https://www.amazon.com/HDMI2-0b-Ext...udio+extractor+with+7.1ch+atoms,aps,83&sr=8-2
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