Listening to now (In Surround!) - Volume 1

[LizardKing]

Benefit - Deluxe Edition 96/24 DTS-Stream :banana:.

Damn, its been released eh?

 

[IMachine]

Yep. Perhaps not JTs best album, but what I hear right now is stellar.
Based on only 8-track available original material, I think it is one of the best works from SW.

Very discrete, wonderful!

You will like it.

 

[leevitalone1]

Yep. Perhaps not JTs best album, but what I hear right now is stellar.
Based on only 8-track available original material, I think it is one of the best works from SW.

Very discrete, wonderful!

You will like it.

Is the dvd just audio? and is DTS the only option for audio?

 

[LizardKing]

Chicago's Greatest Hits - SQ LP
Chicacgo - VII - Q8 -> DVD-A
Joan Baez - blessed are.... - SQ LP
Phoebe Snow - Second Childhood - SQ LP
Dream Theater - DVD-A
COC - America's Volume Dealer - DVD-A

 

[ctc4001]

Lou Reed "Rock N' Roll Animal" RIP

 

[fredblue]

Mysteria: An Electronic Journey Into Sound - Performed by M.A.S.S. (3 SACD set).

http://www.mythos-music-berlin.de/inhalt4.htm

I rather like this, though the surrounds a nice enough effect without being terribly discrete.. it may even be an unwrap job I'm not sure but it sounds nice enough and it's a nice relaxing set of electronica type schtuff!

 

[ctc4001]

Went to my brother's home the other day and listened for the first time a DVD-A! Well, I can surely say I was impressed!!! The DVD Audio was Queen "A Night At The Opera" it was extremely impressive in a 2 channel mix, but when he switched it to 5.1 I was simply blown away!!! After the first time around I shut down all channels except the Center Channel!! just to hear the power of Freddie's voice........blown away...The unit is a Oppo BDP-105 universal player. Expensive hell ya...but very sweet.
Now I understand what you folks have been talking about......it really helps to hear one so at least I can join in on a logical discussion.

 

[Owen Smith]

Went to my brother's home the other day and listened for the first time a DVD-A! Well, I can surely say I was impressed!!! The DVD Audio was Queen "A Night At The Opera" it was extremely impressive in a 2 channel mix, but when he switched it to 5.1 I was simply blown away!!! After the first time around I shut down all channels except the Center Channel!! just to hear the power of Freddie's voice........blown away...The unit is a Oppo BDP-105 universal player. Expensive hell ya...but very sweet.
Now I understand what you folks have been talking about......it really helps to hear one so at least I can join in on a logical discussion.

The 2 channel on the DVD-A suffers from Loudness Wars brickwalling. I find the original EMI CD a better listen in stereo, try that on the Oppo 105. I agree that the 5.1 is awesome, I particularly like Prophet's Song.

 

[leevitalone1]

Went to my brother's home the other day and listened for the first time a DVD-A! Well, I can surely say I was impressed!!! The DVD Audio was Queen "A Night At The Opera" it was extremely impressive in a 2 channel mix, but when he switched it to 5.1 I was simply blown away!!! After the first time around I shut down all channels except the Center Channel!! just to hear the power of Freddie's voice........blown away...The unit is a Oppo BDP-105 universal player. Expensive hell ya...but very sweet.
Now I understand what you folks have been talking about......it really helps to hear one so at least I can join in on a logical discussion.

You do not know what your missing out on! The Queen dvd audio is a great production, but try some steely dan or Fagen productions, that 105 does analog really well.

 

[Perp]

The 2 channel on the DVD-A suffers from Loudness Wars brickwalling. I find the original EMI CD a better listen in stereo, try that on the Oppo 105. I agree that the 5.1 is awesome, I particularly like Prophet's Song.

Not the 2002 DVD-A. You may be thinking of the one that came after it in 2005?

http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=queen&search_album=night+at+the+opera

 

[Owen Smith]

Not the 2002 DVD-A. You may be thinking of the one that came after it in 2005?

http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=queen&search_album=night+at+the+opera

The 2005 isn't a DVD-A, it's a DVD-V. As I understand it the DVD-A has brick walled stereo but great 5.1, and the DVD-V is the other way round (and the Blu Ray which is just a lossless version of the DVD-V).

 

[Owen Smith]

Not the 2002 DVD-A. You may be thinking of the one that came after it in 2005?

http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=queen&search_album=night+at+the+opera

If you pull up the details for the DVD-A line, it clearly states it is a 2.0 conversion of the 5.1 from the DVD-A. As I said, the 5.1 is quite good. This page has no entry for the 2.0 on the DVD-A.

 

[Perp]

Oh, I never listen to the 2.0 side. Do you have the numbers on the 2.0 of the 2002 disc? Yes, I know the 2005 version is a DVD-V.

 

[fredblue]

Pretty sure this sums up the ANATO story, so far..

1.) 2001 Elliot Scheiner DTS CD promo (1st 5.1 mix, unique to this disc and 1st promo run of 2001 DVD-A),
2.) 2002 DVD-A = DRC used on stereo, 5.1 ES & Brian May collaboration (5.1 generally accepted as best sounding but some prefer the ES-only DTS),
3.) 2005 30th Anniv DVD-V = 5.1 Brickwalled to death by Bob Ludwig Van Deafhoven (don't think I ever bothered with the stereo on it),
4.) 2013 BDA = Stereo is very good (though tape saturation/overload issues evident), 5.1 the same terrible rubbish on the 2005 DVD (possibly even LOUDER..!? It really is horrendous.. a travesty when you have to turn your amp DOWN from a level that's pretty much too low for even current chart pop compressed crap..!!!!).

 

[Perp]

Fred, you're right. I have the 2001 version. I'm checking the DR on the 2-channel now.

 

[Perp]

Yikes! I'm getting an overall DR of 5. My copy is a DVD-A and is dated as 2001. This is the 1st surround disc that was released for NATO.

 

[fredblue]

If you've got the old pre-1994 Digital Master Series CD and the common or garden 2002 DTS DVD-A, you're all sorted for stereo and surround in the shiny disc department with ANATO I reckon!

Anyhoo..

Listening to now:

The 2004 5.1 SACD of EC's 461 Ocean Boulevard.

Thoughts:

As excited as I am at hearing ES' original 5.1 mix, I'm prepared for a couple of things/differences (potential letdowns!?)..

..not least ES' tendency to underuse the centre channel.. the Mick Guzauski 5.1 on the SACD uses the centre for lead vocals extensively (isolate it and you'll hear loads of lead vox, with lots of bass, track dependent).

Little experiment.. Play Track 8 on the 461 OB SACD, shut off all other channels but the centre and listen out for all the nuances/inflection etc in Clapton's voice. juicy eh?

not being stuck up but this mix never gets the merit it deserves imho... and I think the centre speaker in one's setup is a major element with the SACD. If you're running a Quad setup it doesn't apply of course.

anyhoo, I've got 3 different centres on the go at the minute I'm swapping between (Tannoy FC Custom, Acoustic Energy Radiance 7, Monitor Audio BX Centre) and comparing each one on centre-heavy mixes like this one, really shows up the relative strengths and weaknesses of each model of speaker.

with the Tannoy its all a bit lacking oomph and top air (I never liked the speaker anyway, it's got a closed-in kind of sound and the centre-heavy EC mix crucified it!).. the AE is very gutsy and resonant but the top ends kinda strident.. the MA is absolutely stuffed full of detail with wonderful mid but there's not the warm bottom-end of the AE. time for an upgrade?!

 

[fredblue]

Yikes! I'm getting an overall DR of 5. My copy is a DVD-A and is dated as 2001. This is the 1st surround disc that was released for NATO.

:yikes crappy crapola or wot!!

(I only bought it for the 5.1 back in '02 anyway! I'm not entirely sure if I ever played the stereo on it either! )

 

[Perp]

Okay, so what I have is the 01/02 DTS DVD-A/V release.

 

[fredblue]

If you've got the old pre-1994 Digital Master Series CD and the common or garden 2002 DTS DVD-A, you're all sorted for stereo and surround in the shiny disc department with ANATO I reckon!

Anyhoo..

Listening to now:

The 2004 5.1 SACD of EC's 461 Ocean Boulevard.

Thoughts:

As excited as I am at hearing ES' original 5.1 mix, I'm prepared for a couple of things/differences (potential letdowns!?)..

..not least ES' tendency to underuse the centre channel.. the Mick Guzauski 5.1 on the SACD uses the centre for lead vocals extensively (isolate it and you'll hear loads of lead vox, with lots of bass, track dependent).

Little experiment.. Play Track 8 on the 461 OB SACD, shut off all other channels but the centre and listen out for all the nuances/inflection etc in Clapton's voice. juicy eh?

not being stuck up but this mix never gets the merit it deserves imho... and I think the centre speaker in one's setup is a major element with the SACD. If you're running a Quad setup it doesn't apply of course.

anyhoo, I've got 3 different centres on the go at the minute I'm swapping between (Tannoy FC Custom, Acoustic Energy Radiance 7, Monitor Audio BX Centre) and comparing each one on centre-heavy mixes like this one, really shows up the relative strengths and weaknesses of each model of speaker.

with the Tannoy its all a bit lacking oomph and top air (I never liked the speaker anyway, it's got a closed-in kind of sound and the centre-heavy EC mix crucified it!).. the AE is very gutsy and resonant but the top ends kinda strident.. the MA is absolutely stuffed full of detail with wonderful mid but there's not the warm bottom-end of the AE. time for an upgrade?!

Monitor Audio..

Tannoy..

Acoustic Energy..