Listening to Now (In Surround) - Volume 2

[wavelength]

It is one of the very BEST surround discs from Silverline I have ever heard.Too bad this end of an era (silverline surround) was coming to an end.Just when they got it right, yet.!! Excellent late 70's punk too.This disc can compete with the best 5.1 discs from any and all the other labels, WB, EMI, UMG, etc, etc.

In the interview on the disc David Thomas (the singer) explains his total distaste for Punk. He describes Pere Ubu as New Wave. But yes, this is a fascinating disc; a must-have for this genre.

 

[fizzywiggs41]

Tonite I will be listening to these 2 cds I just picked up, today.

The Chieftans-Another Country in Dolby surround MP matrix

Tangerine Dream-Atem in SQ quad








BOY DOES TANGERINE DREAM ever need the FULL TREATMENT, be it quad or 5.1 DVD, SACD, DVDA, BD, or even DTS CD !!

 

[Tornado Red]

Jethro Tull - Live in Montreux 2003 on BD-V 5.1 to conclude the video portion of my day

 

[privateuniverse]

Currently enjoying Mike Oldfields 1984 suite, well done. Quite active mix, The Lake works wonderful in 5.1

Hm, shouldn't there be a poll for this? Or isn't 1984 Suite seen as a stand alone album?

There aren't polls for Oldfield's Five Miles Out or Crises either. Might be nice to have them.

 

[fredblue]

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT, FREDDIE !!!:sun


I was so very impressed with all FOUR CD-4 DOOBIE BROTHER'S discs that I wrote a nice letter providing many & much compiments to the Warner Bros.Quad mix team any and all involved for giving this quadraphile the best listening experience of the 70's !

ALL 4 DISCS=EXCELLENT QUAD, as it should be heard.



Now A.F. has to get these out, I think!!

-and STEELY DAN'S QUADS, and FRANK ZAPPA'S QUADS and any Elliot Scheiner mixed or remixed for 5.1that have been far too long STALLED !!!!
This QQ member and lover of quad and five.one appeals to ANY label willing to take my money.

Do you know who mixed those Doobies Quads, Fizzy?
The CD-4 LPs of Toulouse/Vices/Stampede (from what I can make out) don't say specifically.. just a general engineering credit to Donn Landee?

 

[Tornado Red]

America - Homecoming SACD

 

[Tornado Red]

Moodies- On The Threshold Of A Dream SACD (I think, there for I am...I think)@:

 

[fizzywiggs41]

Do you know who mixed those Doobies Quads, Fizzy?
The CD-4 LPs of Toulouse/Vices/Stampede (from what I can make out) don't say specifically.. just a general engineering credit to Donn Landee?

Maybe Ted Templeman but I don't know 4 sure.I would like to think THE DOOBIE BROS. BAND might of had some say, just because the QUAD is so very well mixed/presented.
Whoever is involved deserves a "SPECIAL QUAD QUALITY AWARD" :worthy


Rumours dept.;

-a fifth quad disc may exsist in the form of....TAKING IT TO THE STREETS.




Well, anyway whoever is responsible for these amazing quads should chime in and recieve the well deserved accolades they will generously recieve from all at QQ !
and who knows....maybe let us in on some news regarding a WB/RHINO QUADIO upcoming box set!??:sun


it's good to dream in quad,

fizzy-quad-izzy

 

[fredblue]

Maybe Ted Templeman but I don't know 4 sure.I would like to think THE DOOBIE BROS. BAND might of had some say, just because the QUAD is so very well mixed/presented.
Whoever is involved deserves a "SPECIAL QUAD QUALITY AWARD" :worthy


Rumours dept.;

-a fifth quad disc may exsist in the form of....TAKING IT TO THE STREETS.




Well, anyway whoever is responsible for these amazing quads should chime in and recieve the well deserved accolades they will generously recieve from all at QQ !
and who knows....maybe let us in on some news regarding a WB/RHINO QUADIO upcoming box set!??:sun


it's good to dream in quad,

fizzy-quad-izzy

I'm guessing it may have been Templeman & Landee in cahoots with one of the more regular Quad mixing fellas from Warners..

ah... now.. you have reminded me.. I am going to run the Doobies' TITTS MFSL SACD thru the Surround Master in Involve mode soon and see what happens.. should be interesting, especially as that SACD sounds so different to any other version of the album I have.. hmm.. are you thinking what I'm thinking, Sherlock Fizzywiggs?

I was thinking there is a very ultra slim (impossible) possibility, that the TITTS MFSL is the Quad mix and that some of the info may take on some semblance of separating FTB thru the Involve unit..? Hmm... if not then I'll go down to Rio, jump in a Mercedes and drive it off a cliff, see if I can land on the beach.. :banana:

 

[Simon A]

Been playing DJ on this lovely Saturday and I've gone through this lot so far today.

The Moody Blues - Days Of Future Passed (DTS CD)
The Moody Blues - Seventh Sojourn (SACD)
Beck, Bogert & Appice - Beck, Bogert & Appice (SACD)
Blood, Sweat And Tears - Child Is Father To The Man (SACD)
Blood, Sweat And Tears - Blood, Sweat And Tears (SACD)
The Guess Who - The Guess Who ‎– The Best Of The Guess Who (SACD)

Playing now:

Bread- The Best Of Bread (SACD)

Coming up:

America - Hearts (SACD)
Marvin, Welch & Farrar - Second Opinion (SQ LP conversion)

 

[fizzywiggs41]

I'm guessing it may have been Templeman & Landee in cahoots with one of the more regular Quad mixing fellas from Warners..

ah... now.. you have reminded me.. I am going to run the Doobies' TITTS MFSL SACD thru the Surround Master in Involve mode soon and see what happens.. should be interesting, especially as that SACD sounds so different to any other version of the album I have.. hmm.. are you thinking what I'm thinking, Sherlock Fizzywiggs?

I was thinking there is a very ultra slim (impossible) possibility, that the TITTS MFSL is the Quad mix and that some of the info may take on


some semblance of separating FTB thru the Involve unit..? Hmm... if not then I'll go down to Rio, jump in a Mercedes and drive it off a cliff, see if I can land on the beach.. :banana:

That's the beauty of a good matrix decoder!!!

If the cd was a mix down from a DISCRETE SOURCE TAPE you should/could hear some four channel
trickery in QS/SQ .It won't be as profound as a true matrix quad encoding, but something is better than
naught.
Which reminds me....
I should pick up the 2 ZAPPA CDS, APOSTROPHE, OVERNIGHT and give em a go.

 

[Tornado Red]

Simple Minds - Once Upon A Time blu ray 5.1....love this disc, it's real punchy! :smack:

 

[Simon A]

Enjoying a relaxing Saturday evening with some 3.0 RCA ear candy

 

[Frogmort]

Quadio. I've had it for a couple of weeks now and I've skimmed the hell out of it, but starting now I'm going to listen to all the albums in full chronologically. Obviously not all tonight.

Now playing:

 

[Snood]

Quadio. I've had it for a couple of weeks now and I've skimmed the hell out of it, but starting now I'm going to listen to all the albums in full chronologically. Obviously not all tonight.

Now playing:
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Do them all no sleeeeeeeep!!!! @:

 

[Frogmort]

Do them all no sleeeeeeeep!!!! @:

I don't have it in me Soodles. After finishing CTA, I'm actually checking out 'Big Big Train - Stone & Steel' for the first time. So far it sounds a lot like how I would imagine Genesis might sound if Peter Gabriel never left and the rest of the band didn't go all pop.

Seems almost like a back-handed endorsement, but I really like it a lot so far. :upthumb

Edit: Now I'm hearing Tull and Crimson influences and Greg Lake and John Wetton vocal similarities, in a good way. I really like this, but it's still somehow very weirdly derivative of many other things that I really love.

 

[fredblue]

That's the beauty of a good matrix decoder!!!

If the cd was a mix down from a DISCRETE SOURCE TAPE you should/could hear some four channel
trickery in QS/SQ .It won't be as profound as a true matrix quad encoding, but something is better than
naught.
Which reminds me....
I should pick up the 2 ZAPPA CDS, APOSTROPHE, OVERNIGHT and give em a go.

A follow on question, Fizzy.. it's a very long shot and I am thinking very much outside the box here.. but might such a Stereo MFSL SACD have the necessary high frequency information retained from a CD-4 mastering (in order for it to demodulate into 4-channels, thru, say, a JVC 4DD-5..?) if that is indeed the 2-CH source that was used?

 

[4-earredwonder]

A follow on question, Fizzy.. it's a very long shot and I am thinking very much outside the box here.. but might such a Stereo MFSL SACD have the necessary high frequency information retained from a CD-4 mastering (in order for it to demodulate into 4-channels, thru, say, a JVC 4DD-5..?) if that is indeed the 2-CH source that was used?

A REAL long shot, Adam. To create Quadradiscs, a four channel master was utilized for the discrete CD~4 discs and most likely stereo masters for the compatible stereo portion of the Quadradisc.

Doubtful MoFi would use mix down stereo analogue tapes for their SACDs.

You can always try to decode MoFi Stereo SACDs (like Carly Simon's Hotcakes, Anticipation or her debut album for Elektra...all former Quadradiscs). I actually did have some luck playing Carly's debut album through the SUPER DSP mode on my Meridian pre/pro (utilizing a treated, dampered, demagnetized disc with the Marantz SA11S3 as player) with great results.

Just keep the volume low if you going to use the JVC demodulator as your go between source as it might give off a godawful squelching sound in the process.

Just DON'T jeopardize the ultra delicate as air JVC demod in the process. It's ALL analogue and may not take to an incoming alien digital source even utilizing the analogue outputs of your player.

:yikes:flame:kaboom:nuke

 

[fredblue]

oh phew...!!!! thank GOD you mentioned all that Ralph..!!!! Thank you so much.

..of course the JVC demodulator cannot handle a line level in.. so that would not work.. unless I captured the SACD 2-ch signal, performed some sort of RIAA curve EQ on it, then lowered it in overall volume level to the kind of level the JVC would expect from a CD-4 LP (so, lower level, without the EQ curve.. oh dear.. it all seems so complicated and potentially as you say could destroy the JVC..!!!).

I think I'll stick to the Surround Master method in its Involve mode (which I've yet to really explore..) and see what happens. I am surprised nobody else has mentioned how different the Takin It To The Streets SACD sounds from other masterings though.. and in a way it seems more than just typical EQ mastering moves.. it was almost like a different source had been used (more bass, less treble.. yeah that's EQ.. but.. hmm.. doesn't that also sound like a typical CD-4 kinda sound to you..?) I noticed it immediately when I first got the Takin It MFSL disc years back and mentioned it on here at the time iirc.

 

[4-earredwonder]

oh phew...!!!! thank GOD you mentioned all that Ralph..!!!! Thank you so much.

..of course the JVC demodulator cannot handle a line level in.. so that would not work.. unless I captured the SACD 2-ch signal, performed some sort of RIAA curve EQ on it, then lowered it in overall volume level to the kind of level the JVC would expect from a CD-4 LP (so, lower level, without the EQ curve.. oh dear.. it all seems so complicated and potentially as you say could destroy the JVC..!!!).

I think I'll stick to the Surround Master method in its Involve mode (which I've yet to really explore..) and see what happens. I am surprised nobody else has mentioned how different the Takin It To The Streets SACD sounds from other masterings though.. and in a way it seems more than just typical EQ mastering moves.. it was almost like a different source had been used (more bass, less treble.. yeah that's EQ.. but.. hmm.. doesn't that also sound like a typical CD-4 kinda sound to you..?) I noticed it immediately when I first got the Takin It MFSL disc years back and mentioned it on here at the time iirc.

Adam, BIRTHDAY hangovers will do that to you.........