Suggestions for Dutton Vocalion Multichannel SACD Releases

[gvl_guy]

Were these released in quad or "unreleased" ?

Definitely released. But only quad in Japan.
https://www.discogs.com/Van-McCoy-The-Soul-City-Symphony-Love-Is-The-Answer/release/8180140
https://www.discogs.com/Van-McCoy-The-Soul-City-Symphony-Disco-Baby/release/8180128

 

[Old Quad Guy]

The two Van McCoy Quad titles would make a great release, even if it wasn’t a 2’fer. “Disco Baby” has an excellent mix of “The Hustle.”

For some strange reason, at least for me “The Hustle” has always made me happy just hearing it, and I’ve never got tried of it since it first came out. It keeps sounding fresh, new. So, as far as a re-release goes, just “Do It.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_McCoy

 

[jaybird100]

To the Great people of Dutton Vocalion :

I'm not certain if you folks have received any of the following requests for UNRELEASED QUADS :

So in no particular order here goes;


Sony/CBS

Jimi Hendrix-Crash Landing, Best Of
Jeff Beck with Jan Hammer Group - Live
Lou Rawls - Un mistakenly Lou
Janis Joplin - In Concert (72)
Neil Diamond - Beautiful Noise
Wendy Carlos - A Clockwork Orange
Wendy Carlos - Sonic Seasonings
Micheal Jackson - 1980 Best Of
The Byrds - Greatest Hits
Boston - Boston
The Mahavishnu Orchestra - Apocalypse
The Isley Brothers - The Heat Is On
Bob Dylan -Greatest Hits Vol II
Laura Nyro - It's Gonna Take A Miracle
Laura Nyro - Christmas And The Beads Of Sweat
Big Sur Folk Festival - One Hand Clapping
Electric Light Orchestra - ELO II
Electric Light Orchestra - Eldorado

UMG/ASSOCIATED LABELS

Supertramp - Crime Of The Century
Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
Stevie Wonder - Talking Book
Stevie Wonder - Fullfillingness' First Finale
Ringo Starr - Ringo
Styx - The Grand Illusion
Queen - Queen
Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die
Deep Purple - Burn *
The Allman Brothers - Brothers And Sisters
Eric Clapton - E.C. Was Here
Rod Stewart - Smiler *
Black Sabbath - Sabotage *
The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations, Best Of
Dusty Springfield - Cameo
The Commodores - Southern Comfort
Bobby Bland - His California Album
Jimmy Buffet - A White Sport Coat And A Pink Crustacean
Michael Omartian - White Horse
The Stranglers - No More Heros
The Boomtown Rats - Tonic For The Troops
The Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Framed
The Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Rock Drill
Phil Manzanera - Listen Now
The Motors - Motors I
The Steve Gibbons Band - Rollin' On
Lonestar - Firing On All Six
Racing Cars - Weekend Rendezvous
Andy Fairweather Low - Be Bop N Holla
Colesseum II - Electric Savage
Colesseum II - War Dance
Hawkwind - In Search Of Space
Hawkwind - Space Ritual
Merle Haggard - Keep Movin' On
Cat Stevens - Numbers
Z Z Top - Fandango*
Uriah Heep - Return To Fantasy *
Joe Walsh - So What
Three Dog Night - Dog Style , Best Of
Three Dog Night - Joy To The World , Greatest Hits
Caravan - For Girls Who Go Plump In The Night
Bob Marley - Natty Dread
Graeme Edge And Adrian Gurvitz - Kick Off Your Muddy Boots
Tim Weisberg - Tim Weisberg 4
Herb Pilhofer - Music That Works 2
A Night In A Westwood Disco - Soundtrack , Motown Productions


* may or may not be on WarnerBros Records



Aditionally there are some in 5.1 that DV might consider :

Sony/CBS

The Byrds - 5D The Fifth Dimension
Stevie Ray Vaughn - Couldn't Stand The Weather


I can only Hope this listing can assist in you in your vault sluething , for your future quad releases.
Thankyou DV for your consideration.

Remember the UMG fire? A lot of the titles you listed may have have been lost. I don't know if DV and UMG have an agreement like they do with Sony, but it would be an interesting idea.

 

[privateuniverse]

UMG/ASSOCIATED LABELS
The Boomtown Rats - Tonic For The Troops

Whoa! That's the first I've ever heard of that one? Is it rumored or confirmed? It's 1978, kinda late. I would love to hear that (or any Rats) in surround!

 

[Q-Eight]

I thought we'd put a few of those to bed already? Someone in the know confirmed to us that "Brothers and Sisters" was never done OR, at least is not in the vaults and there is no entry for such album. And I thought Mark Linett confirmed that the Beach Boys 20 Great/Good Vibes was never even attempted? Something about once they learned that most of the Beach Boys multitracks (8-track most of them) were generally 1 or 2 tracks of instruments and 6 or 7 tracks worth of vocals?

Three Dog Night "Dog Style" is erroneous and no such album even exists. "Dog Style" was the working title for "Coming Down Your Way".
Janis Joplin in Concert?? First I've heard of that! Maybe???? It would've been smack in the middle of the short 31xxx series of Quad releases. But the multi's would be either 4 or 8-track at best.... most of the performances on that album are from 1968, 1969 and 1970.

Man, some of those are news to me! Not saying they don't exist. I've found LOTS of albums mentioned in passing in old magazines that never came out.

 

[sjcorne]

Someone in the know confirmed to us that "Brothers and Sisters" was never done OR, at least is not in the vaults and there is no entry for such album.

On the contrary, @Bob Vosgien mentioned it as a possible Quadio release candidate way back in April 2010. Maybe he conflated it with Eat A Peach?

Black Sabbath - Sabotage *

Unfortunately, we do have confirmation that this one was never completed.

 

[Q-Eight]

On the contrary, @Bob Vosgien mentioned it as a possible Quadio release candidate way back in April 2010. Maybe he conflated it with Eat A Peach?

Holy Moses!! How did I miss that post?!?!? Thanks for setting me straight. Sweet Baby James would be awesome, too!

 

[britmarc]

To the Great people of Dutton Vocalion :

I'm not certain if you folks have received any of the following requests for UNRELEASED QUADS :

So in no particular order here goes;


Sony/CBS

Jimi Hendrix-Crash Landing, Best Of
Jeff Beck with Jan Hammer Group - Live
Lou Rawls - Un mistakenly Lou
Janis Joplin - In Concert (72)
Neil Diamond - Beautiful Noise
Wendy Carlos - A Clockwork Orange
Wendy Carlos - Sonic Seasonings
Micheal Jackson - 1980 Best Of
The Byrds - Greatest Hits
Boston - Boston
The Mahavishnu Orchestra - Apocalypse
The Isley Brothers - The Heat Is On
Bob Dylan -Greatest Hits Vol II
Laura Nyro - It's Gonna Take A Miracle
Laura Nyro - Christmas And The Beads Of Sweat
Big Sur Folk Festival - One Hand Clapping
Electric Light Orchestra - ELO II
Electric Light Orchestra - Eldorado

UMG/ASSOCIATED LABELS

Supertramp - Crime Of The Century
Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
Stevie Wonder - Talking Book
Stevie Wonder - Fullfillingness' First Finale
Ringo Starr - Ringo
Styx - The Grand Illusion
Queen - Queen
Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die
Deep Purple - Burn *
The Allman Brothers - Brothers And Sisters
Eric Clapton - E.C. Was Here
Rod Stewart - Smiler *
Black Sabbath - Sabotage *
The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations, Best Of
Dusty Springfield - Cameo
The Commodores - Southern Comfort
Bobby Bland - His California Album
Jimmy Buffet - A White Sport Coat And A Pink Crustacean
Michael Omartian - White Horse
The Stranglers - No More Heros
The Boomtown Rats - Tonic For The Troops
The Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Framed
The Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Rock Drill
Phil Manzanera - Listen Now
The Motors - Motors I
The Steve Gibbons Band - Rollin' On
Lonestar - Firing On All Six
Racing Cars - Weekend Rendezvous
Andy Fairweather Low - Be Bop N Holla
Colesseum II - Electric Savage
Colesseum II - War Dance
Hawkwind - In Search Of Space
Hawkwind - Space Ritual
Merle Haggard - Keep Movin' On
Cat Stevens - Numbers
Z Z Top - Fandango*
Uriah Heep - Return To Fantasy *
Joe Walsh - So What
Three Dog Night - Dog Style , Best Of
Three Dog Night - Joy To The World , Greatest Hits
Caravan - For Girls Who Go Plump In The Night
Bob Marley - Natty Dread
Graeme Edge And Adrian Gurvitz - Kick Off Your Muddy Boots
Tim Weisberg - Tim Weisberg 4
Herb Pilhofer - Music That Works 2
A Night In A Westwood Disco - Soundtrack , Motown Productions


* may or may not be on WarnerBros Records



Aditionally there are some in 5.1 that DV might consider :

Sony/CBS

The Byrds - 5D The Fifth Dimension
Stevie Ray Vaughn - Couldn't Stand The Weather


I can only Hope this listing can assist in you in your vault sluething , for your future quad releases.
Thankyou DV for your consideration.

Neil's - Beautiful Noise; Lou Rawls; and Isleys - Heat, were Dutch SQ pressings in the standard album sleeve with a gold 'SQ' sticker. Very limited but they were available through the British CBS distribution system

 

[artwwweb]

To the Great people of Dutton Vocalion :

I'm not certain if you folks have received any of the following requests for UNRELEASED QUADS :

So in no particular order here goes;

UMG/ASSOCIATED LABELS

Supertramp - Crime Of The Century
Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
Stevie Wonder - Talking Book
Stevie Wonder - Fullfillingness' First Finale
Ringo Starr - Ringo
Styx - The Grand Illusion
Queen - Queen
Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die
Deep Purple - Burn *
The Allman Brothers - Brothers And Sisters
Eric Clapton - E.C. Was Here
Rod Stewart - Smiler *
Black Sabbath - Sabotage *
The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations, Best Of
Dusty Springfield - Cameo
The Commodores - Southern Comfort
Bobby Bland - His California Album
Jimmy Buffet - A White Sport Coat And A Pink Crustacean
Michael Omartian - White Horse
The Stranglers - No More Heros
The Boomtown Rats - Tonic For The Troops
The Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Framed
The Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Rock Drill
Phil Manzanera - Listen Now
The Motors - Motors I
The Steve Gibbons Band - Rollin' On
Lonestar - Firing On All Six
Racing Cars - Weekend Rendezvous
Andy Fairweather Low - Be Bop N Holla
Colesseum II - Electric Savage
Colesseum II - War Dance
Hawkwind - In Search Of Space
Hawkwind - Space Ritual
Merle Haggard - Keep Movin' On
Cat Stevens - Numbers
Z Z Top - Fandango*
Uriah Heep - Return To Fantasy *
Joe Walsh - So What
Three Dog Night - Dog Style , Best Of
Three Dog Night - Joy To The World , Greatest Hits
Caravan - For Girls Who Go Plump In The Night
Bob Marley - Natty Dread
Graeme Edge And Adrian Gurvitz - Kick Off Your Muddy Boots
Tim Weisberg - Tim Weisberg 4
Herb Pilhofer - Music That Works 2
A Night In A Westwood Disco - Soundtrack , Motown Productions


* may or may not be on WarnerBros Records

Fizzywiggs, some of your list (the later 70s UK ones e.g. The Stranglers, Phil Manzera, Lonestar, Steve Gibbons, Racing Cars, Andy FL, Collosseum II) are actually bands who recorded sessions for the BBC that were mixed into quad. So I think it's worth making it clear for those that don't know: those tracks are almost certainly not unreleased albums. They are collections of just 4 or so tracks (re)recorded at the BBC for broadcast and then remixed into quad by the BBC. It would still be great if they were released! (Also, they will probably be in the BBC vaults, not those of the record company.)

BBC 6 Music do broadcast archive sessions every week and I have been keeping on eye them but have never noticed one of these archive quad sessions being broadcast, unfortunately.

 

[Soundfield]

BBC 6 Music do broadcast archive sessions every week and I have been keeping on eye them but have never noticed one of these archive quad sessions being broadcast, unfortunately.

Even if such 4 channel master tapes existed there is of course no means of broadcasting them quadraphonically.

 

[gvl_guy]

Even such 4 channel master tapes existed there is of course no means of broadcasting them quadraphonically.

Well..... technically, yes. You could broadcast in a matrix --not that many people would be able to decode it, but you could do it.

 

[Soundfield]

Well..... technically, yes. You could broadcast in a matrix --not that many people would be able to decode it, but you could do it.

Well..... practically no, unless you expect the BBC to resurrect matrix HJ transmissions?!!! Unlikely, since I would imagine their last encoder was chucked in a skip decades ago!

 

[gvl_guy]

Technically, they could do it. But I think we'd all win the lottery before anything like that happens.

 

[fizzywiggs41]

Fizzywiggs, some of your list (the later 70s UK ones e.g. The Stranglers, Phil Manzera, Lonestar, Steve Gibbons, Racing Cars, Andy FL, Colleseum II) are actually bands who recorded sessions for the BBC that were mixed into quad. So I think it's worth making it clear for those that don't know: those tracks are almost certainly not unreleased albums. They are collections of just 4 or so tracks (re)recorded at the BBC for broadcast and then remixed into quad by the BBC. It would still be great if they were released! (Also, they will probably be in the BBC vaults, not those of the record company.)

BBC 6 Music do broadcast archive sessions every week and I have been keeping on eye them but have never noticed one of these archive quad sessions being broadcast, unfortunately.

I will site one example of an album (well actually 2) that were indeed mixed entirely in quad and the BBC utilized.

Jethro Tull - Minstrel In The Gallery (3 tracks in HJ)
Jethro Tull - Too Old For Rock And Roll And Too Young To Die (1 track in HJ)

MINSTREL IN THE GALLERY
COLD WIND TO VALHALLA
BLACK SATIN DANCER
THE CHEQUERED FLAG

-Broadcast 25 March 1978 from the original quad mixes supplied by the EMI Chrysalis label.
It was the labels which supplied The BEEB with quad mixes for the 77/78 BBC H and BBC HJ transmisions.
These were utilized on The Alan Freeman Show as well as other DJ's and announced as "album tracks" from their respective albums.
Those four quad HJ tracks were broadcast back in 1978 , and Tull's Ian Anderson owned the original Quadraphonic masters In conjunction with EMI/Chrysalis .

UMG International now own the rights to artists from Capitol , Mercury , Vertigo , United Artists , and many others.
The vast majority of those named Artists/Groups on my listing would be housed in Universal's vaults not associated with the disaster at the UMG American storage vault.

So let's let the good people of DUTTON VOCALION give a peek into the various artist's labels catalogues housed in the UMG Vault . Or Vaults.
No harm to check it out with this supplied listing of possible quad mixes, I'd think.

 

[Soundfield]

It was the labels which supplied The BEEB with quad mixes ...

I can never hear that old term without thinking of the Goon Show....
Peter Sellers:
[using dramatic voice] I have been asked by the Beeb Beeb Ceeb to get the audience warmed up. Well, to my knowledge, there is no better way, than for the gentlemen to use their right hand to squeeze the tops of the lady's thigh next to them!
[sound FX plays loud feminine "Ooh!" sounds]
Peter Sellers:
Splendid ! I shall now whistle the soliloquy from Hamlet...
[Peter whistles the soliloquy from Hamlet while walking away from the microphone]
Announcer:
That was Mr Sellers practicing his comeback.

 

[gvl_guy]

I wouldn't think the BBC would have any rights to put this out, though. I would suspect the artist and record companies would be the ones to have to first agree.....then the BBC would have to sign off on it. That's a lotta agreements.

 

[Colin London]

Would love to see any Stevie Wonder in SACD 4 Channel.

And Jeff Beck /Jan Hammer Live

Also would love to see that Other Mahavishnu
and the Extra Isley Brothers on 4 Channel SACD.


And Michael Jackson in Quad.


And Any Jimi Hendrix in 4 Channel Quad

 

[fizzywiggs41]

I wouldn't think the BBC would have any rights to put this out, though. I would suspect the artist and record companies would be the ones to have to first agree.....then the BBC would have to sign off on it. That's a lotta agreements.

The BEEB would have the rights (temporarily) to the Matrix Encoded tracks. And only for broadcast rights in 1978. Anything beyond would require additional legal agreements.
It's the Record Labels that hold all the original Discreet Quad Masters.

 

[fizzywiggs41]

EMI's unique live quad recordings of Wagner's Ring cycle must be made available in mch:

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I agree .
I remember back in the 70's that I couldn't get the full set of this Wagner's Ring.

 

[fizzywiggs41]

Remember the UMG fire? A lot of the titles you listed may have have been lost. I don't know if DV and UMG have an agreement like they do with Sony, but it would be an interesting idea.

Dutton Vocalion already have QUAD SACD'S from the UMG family of labels such as Phillips , U A /Bluenote , Capitol , and Mercury .