Yes - Close to the Edge 5.1 DVD-A/BluRay in October

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What a waste. Not even true DSD output.


And thus we're cheated of all that wonderful DSD noise in the >48kHz region.


(The first quote you quoted is audiophile nonsense, and converting DSD to to 96/24 PCM doesn't matter....there is no audible quality hit unless it's somehow done badly)
 
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I'm not sure why you equate me not thinking 24/96 isn't good enough but I never said that. 24/48 as well as 16/44.1 can sound quite good when done right. What I'm saying is why waste a format that has potential such as SACD with a down sampled signal. And I understand where you're coming from regarding lower samples but if I wanted 24/96 PCM, I'd purchase another format like DVD. :)
 
Actually, apart from anything else, this is what makes my eyes fill with tears. :D

I'm right there with you man, to hear the original mixes with a quality akin to sitting in the control room is quite a gift. (y)
Something that was sorely missing from the ELP releases. :(
 
And this we're cheated of all that wonderful DSD noise in the >48kHz region.


(The first quote you quoted is audiophile nonsense, and converting DSD to to 96/24 PCM doesn't matter....there is no audible quality hit unless it's somehow done badly)

The noise is actually everything above 23KHz, not 48KHz.
 
too late to include the Quad now I guess the whole kit and caboodle for your Close To The Edge sets is all ready and raring to go and be snapped up by the paying punters!
 
The noise is actually everything above 23KHz, not 48KHz.
It would have been nice to have an everything above 23kHz "Only The Noise" mix of the entire album. Was this ever considered? ;)
Sorry.

Just a few days away from what is turning out to be an incredible month for releases.
 
I'm right there with you man, to hear the original mixes with a quality akin to sitting in the control room is quite a gift. (y)
Something that was sorely missing from the ELP releases. :(

Hi strat54,

What was missing from the ELP(I guess you mean SW ELP 1st & Tarkus DVD-As)? Do you mean a flat transfer from the original 2.0 1st gen analog mixdown tape?
 
Hi strat54,

What was missing from the ELP(I guess you mean SW ELP 1st & Tarkus DVD-As)? Do you mean a flat transfer from the original 2.0 1st gen analog mixdown tape?

Yes, a flat transfer of the original Offord mixes would have been great to hear, but they were not included.
 
Yes, a flat transfer of the original Offord mixes would have been great to hear, but they were not included.

Gotchya. Just pure conjecture on my part, but I will guess that if the ELP 2.0 tapes were in any kind of shape to do that, Steven would have included that.

We all know the stories how many studios never even thought about archiving stuff, so all the precious 1970s music is hit or miss if 1st gen tapes even exist.AND the stuff may not even be marked as such... and record companies rarely even provide the actual 1stgen 2.0 master for today's mixes even if they exist. So a guaranteed method to get the best signal from tape is by ripping the multi-tracks.

RUSH solved this dilema by creating their archives from digitizing their multitracks and storing that. Obviously you'd have to downmix that when needed.Even so, Alex Lifeson told a story how the tapes barely made the rip and some needed baking which is a one shot deal.

Hmm, doesn't Steve Howe keep guardianship of the CTTE master? Do we even know if it is 1st gen? Problem with a flat transfer is you get all 30 years
of tape degradation and frequency loss as well. :(. But it sounds like Steve Howe's tape may be first gen and in good enough shape to do a neutral digital rip.

I know a listening goal(for me at least) is to get a feel for what it would have been like in the control room back in the day. But 35 years of humidity
and abuse sure can mess with magnetic tape.

Purists shudder at somebody, even Steven Wilson doing a new 2.0 remix, but ripping from the multi-tracks, cleaning up/fixing whatever tape degradation(in digital) and then needing to downmix to 2.0 is sometimes the only way to get a truly hifi result from a 40 year old piece of magnetic tape.

I really haven't heard Steven's new 2.0 ELP mixes... I can't get the ELP 5.1 versions out of my player! That stuff sounds so nice. :)
 
So who's getting excited? Only 10 days to go!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need more chatter people!

I've been trying to keep my cool since this was announced- what a hard wait. But I've got a lil longer wait than a lot of folks here- I got mine from Amazon: est. arrival date 11-4. My experience w/ Amazon they usually come a day or two before the EAD, so I'm looking for mine on 11-2, which is my b'day! Best B'day present ever! I'm trying not to think about it, w/ not much success... My most wished for surround disc since I bought my 1st one (Fragile).
 
So who's getting excited? Only 10 days to go!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need more chatter people!

I've been trying to keep my cool since this was announced- what a hard wait. But I've got a lil longer wait than a lot of folks here- I got mine from Amazon: est. arrival date 11-4. My experience w/ Amazon they usually come a day or two before the EAD, so I'm looking for mine on 11-2, which is my b'day! Best B'day present ever! I'm trying not to think about it, w/ not much success... My most wished for surround disc since I bought my 1st one (Fragile).
 
So who's getting excited? Only 10 days to go!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need more chatter people!

I am with you my friend, ProgRules just said it best...My patience has been tested since they annonced this back in the Spring...
"I want it now", does not even begin to describe my current state. I am very happy for ProgRules that CTTE is his favorite 5.1 and he is getting that now.I want all the YES from 1969 through Drama done by Steven in 5.1. Looks like they put off the release date a few weeks from original announcement, but that happens all the time, ELP 5.1 has been delayed as well.

One major problem with CTTE & Relayer & GFTO & Tales offered to us in 5.1 is:

How much money do we have in the bank to survive on? I am sure our work bosses won't like it that we are now staying home all day and listening to this stuff 24-7.
Does anybody have a wife/partner who makes good money???

I am not sure what is harder:

The wait for YES in 5.1 or Having it & playing it and then having to stop playing it and get back to the real world.

@ProgRules: Did you see YES in Charlottsville last Spring? That amphitheatre looks like it has awesome sound!

@rusinurbe: Is there a URL for that review?
 
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