Yes - Close to the Edge 5.1 DVD-A/BluRay in October

[ssully]

For remaining releases, I'd love for the band members to be taken through the album track by track, for comments and memories, as was done for Jethro Tull's 'Benefit'.

 

[Ranasakawa]

I like the XTC release much more.
I am a big Yes fan, but the sounds on 70s Yes albums are thin, no punch at all.
The recorded vocals are good.

Compare it to the 70s Rush or Led Zeps or Genesis outputs.
They all sound better in my opinion.

I had also the problem with Fragile on DVD-A.

Steven Wilson did a great job on CTTE, but he can not make it bigger, if the source is a bit weak.

What makes YES so special for me is their musical performance.
And I wish they had more taste to a fatter sound in the 70s.

The 'thin' sound as you call it is the result of Yes using all the multi tracks and then some. They were kings of overdubs, resulting in some tape degradation. The album Relayer has more overdubs than any 70s album I can think of for example, Relayer has the worst sound of the lot.

Not much Steven can do about that.

Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland is another example of overdub extreme and that album also is very flat. But I still love it!

 

[IMachine]

The 'thin' sound as you call it is the result of Yes using all the multi tracks and then some. They were kings of overdubs, resulting in some tape degradation. The album Relayer has more overdubs than any 70s album I can think of for example, Relayer has the worst sound of the lot.

Not much Steven can do about that.

Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland is another example of overdub extreme and that album also is very flat. But I still love it!

Don't get me wrong. I love all Yes albums, but soundwise I always didn't like them.

 

[davie]

Thin or not, Wayside in the States has the DVD-A in stock now. I just ordered it after confirming that they actually had it.

 

[Cheezmo]

Amazon.com had my Blu-ray estimated to arrive December 23rd, but just updated it to November 15th.

 

[milesahead]

I like the XTC release much more.
I am a big Yes fan, but the sounds on 70s Yes albums are thin, no punch at all.
The recorded vocals are good.

Compare it to the 70s Rush or Led Zeps or Genesis outputs.
They all sound better in my opinion.

I had also the problem with Fragile on DVD-A.

Steven Wilson did a great job on CTTE, but he can not make it bigger, if the source is a bit weak.

What makes YES so special for me is their musical performance.
And I wish they had more taste to a fatter sound in the 70s.

I got the XTC a couple days ago, and yes it's a warmer bigger sound, but the surround mix on Close to the edge is like an adventure for my ears. So strictly talking about the mix I think it's the one of Wilsons mixes that took me by surprise, I didn't expect the album to sound like this... If you take an album like Storm Corrosion the mix is sensational and everything is just perfect, but it was exactly what I expected after hearing the stereo mix. Maybe my opinion will change overtime but today I heard Yes like never before.

//Eric

 

[cupboy]

Close To The Edge blu-ray is in stock at BBY on-line, don't know about stores..

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/close-t...87&st=yes close to the edge blu-ray&lp=5&cp=1

dvd: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/close-t...d=21938578&st=close to the edge dvd&lp=1&cp=1

Got my order in. If the Amazon one ships I can just return my BBY order to the local store. No big deal.

 

[jdmack]

So I bought a Panasonic DMP-8D85, my first blu ray player! And I bought "CTTE" - my first blu ray disc! So with a sample size of one, I am wondering if there is something wrong with my player or the disc. Once the disc is playing, if I press the "top menu" button on my remote, I get an on-screen message "this operation is not available." But if I press the "return" button and navigate to "top menu" as a choice, I can get back to the top menu. Is anyone else experiencing this?

(On related, but unrelated topics - I wonder why wasn't any declicking used on the needle drop of the "And You And I" promo single. I doubt I'll listen to it ever again, but it seemed weird. Also, the full stereo version of "America" is indicated as being the "original master." In my opinion, the version of "America" on "New Age of Atlantic" is the original master and the version on "Yesterdays" (also heard on this release) is the same mix but with added reverb - kind of like a Dave Dexter version of the song).

J. D.

 

[Neil Palfreyman]

The 'thin' sound as you call it is the result of Yes using all the multi tracks and then some. They were kings of overdubs, resulting in some tape degradation. The album Relayer has more overdubs than any 70s album I can think of for example, Relayer has the worst sound of the lot.

Not much Steven can do about that.

Much of that was down to the way they constructed the songs in the studio. There's a brilliant interview with Eddie Offord that explains it.

http://www.nfte.org/interviews/EO234.html

They essentialy recorded one phrase at a time - maybe 8 or 16 bars then spliced sections together and used overdubs to smooth them out. Almost like using pro-tools but with tape. I can imagine that the tape got quite a lot of abuse in this process!

 

[IMachine]

Also in the newer Yes releases Steve Howe has his guitar sound.
And he chose a sound that is gneedle deedle .
The Basssound is not deep, because Chris wanted to hear it pristine in the whole wall of sounds.

I think that was the main thing: All members of the group wanted to be heard simultaniously.
A good arranger would have sorted things to more or less important.

 

[bossfan]

Just got it. Listening now.

 

[jaypfunk]

Just got it. Listening now.

Well... WE'RE WAITING!

 

[bossfan]

LOL Only listened for a few minutes I had to get to work but what I did hear was heavenly.... lol I must have not been following this thread very closely - too wrapped up in Tull's Benefit - and I missed the fact that this baby is true DVD AUDIO lossless. Holy smokes. It sounds awsome. You and I - SWEEEET. America - SWEEETER.... I will report more when I hear more...

 

[leevitalone1]

Much of that was down to the way they constructed the songs in the studio. There's a brilliant interview with Eddie Offord that explains it.

http://www.nfte.org/interviews/EO234.html

They essentialy recorded one phrase at a time - maybe 8 or 16 bars then spliced sections together and used overdubs to smooth them out. Almost like using pro-tools but with tape. I can imagine that the tape got quite a lot of abuse in this process!

Plus, most people then had "tin boxes" for playing LP's, not many had a good system that was expensive back in the day. Multi-track recordings suffered from a lack of full range, and ability. I remember 'Tubular Bells" and the notes telling you to not bother with a cheap system.

 

[Neil Palfreyman]

Mine arrived too (Amazon UK) and I have given it a first spin. :banana:

I grew up with these albums and know it inside out so I'm going to have to reserve judgement until after a few more plays before I pass comment.

 

[jdmack]

I *really* like the instrumental mixes of these songs! I may not listen to them often in the future, but they are very educational for someone who loves Yes as much as I do.

J. D.

 

[bossfan]

I get up, I get down..... One of my favourites is simply fantastic.

 

[Tunatamer]

I noticed the LPCM reads out at 96/24 but the DTS-MA reads out at 48/24.
Anyone else notice this?

 

[César]

Hi, it's supposed to be that way or at least that's the info that appears on the booklet (see page 3): DTS-HD 24/48.

Received the blu-ray today and I'm just listening to the 2013 mix with headphones, really LOUD. All I can say is WOW, WOW, WOW. Two million people barely satisfy voices are amazing! Does anybody want my SACD?

Hope I'll find some time alone tomorrow at home to give it a try to the 5.1.

Ohhhh, how beautiful Steve's acoustic guitar sounds on and you and I!

 

[Tunatamer]

Cesar you are correct sir! My poor old eyes missed that. Thanks.
Cranking it out for my second listen before the neighbors get home...