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No, that's the only UMG blu ray I've bought so far.....
BIG Blu-Ray Audio drive from Universal Music in 2013
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As mentioned in a previous post, I ordered from HMV JP back in April. I lost count how many emails I received since then that stated release date has been changed. I just checked my order and Cat Stevens is the only title that isn't in stock yet. :banana:
SINGLE Celebration Day / Led Zeppelin Ready 1 ¥3,371 ( Blu Ray Audio Japan Edition)
SINGLE Legend / Bob Marley & The Wailers Ready 1 ¥2,303
SINGLE Tea For The Tillerman / Cat Stevens Waiting for stock arrival 1 ¥2,303
SINGLE Layla & Other Assorted Love Song / Derek & The Dominos Ready 1 ¥2,303
SINGLE Songs In The Key Of Life / Stevie Wonder Ready 1 ¥2,303
SINGLE Breakfast In America / Supertramp Ready 1 ¥2,093
SINGLE Velvet Underground & Nico / Velvet Underground Ready 1 ¥2,303
If these sound as good or better than Stones "GRRR!" then I'll be happy. Too bad they are not Hi Rez stereo and 5.1 to satisfy everyone. Hopefully UMG will realize their sales will increase if future releases offer these options.
SINGLE Celebration Day / Led Zeppelin Ready 1 ¥3,371 ( Blu Ray Audio Japan Edition)
SINGLE Legend / Bob Marley & The Wailers Ready 1 ¥2,303
SINGLE Tea For The Tillerman / Cat Stevens Waiting for stock arrival 1 ¥2,303
SINGLE Layla & Other Assorted Love Song / Derek & The Dominos Ready 1 ¥2,303
SINGLE Songs In The Key Of Life / Stevie Wonder Ready 1 ¥2,303
SINGLE Breakfast In America / Supertramp Ready 1 ¥2,093
SINGLE Velvet Underground & Nico / Velvet Underground Ready 1 ¥2,303
If these sound as good or better than Stones "GRRR!" then I'll be happy. Too bad they are not Hi Rez stereo and 5.1 to satisfy everyone. Hopefully UMG will realize their sales will increase if future releases offer these options.
i just went to hmv jp and it says the marley and layla are back ordered
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I've bought the Supertramp HFPA release as a test, and am enjoying it enormously (though I don't have Supertramp on CD to compare it to) - but the lack of a 5.1 mix is heartbreaking.
The liner notes about the new format promise that releases will include 5.1 mixes wherever possible, and yet all but one so far don't. That can only be a result of laziness and cheapness on Universal's part. The line about protecting the authenticity of the original stereo mix is a feeble excuse. You have to include a 2.0 mix for those who don't like surround or only have two speakers, but there's more than enough room for both mixes on the discs. The time and money it would take to get 5.1 mixes done is certainly not prohibitive and would make the whole enterprise ten times more worthwhile. I really hope that Universal get with the programme soon. These frist releases remind me of the disappointment of those early Sony SACDs, whacked out as quickie 2.0 releases.
I'm not planning to buy many of these in 2.0 only, but has anyone heard the Stevie Wonder and Stones HFPA releases? How is the sound quality?
The liner notes about the new format promise that releases will include 5.1 mixes wherever possible, and yet all but one so far don't. That can only be a result of laziness and cheapness on Universal's part. The line about protecting the authenticity of the original stereo mix is a feeble excuse. You have to include a 2.0 mix for those who don't like surround or only have two speakers, but there's more than enough room for both mixes on the discs. The time and money it would take to get 5.1 mixes done is certainly not prohibitive and would make the whole enterprise ten times more worthwhile. I really hope that Universal get with the programme soon. These frist releases remind me of the disappointment of those early Sony SACDs, whacked out as quickie 2.0 releases.
I'm not planning to buy many of these in 2.0 only, but has anyone heard the Stevie Wonder and Stones HFPA releases? How is the sound quality?
CDJapan has only 1 copy left of Marley available for shipment on release date of July 22nd.
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOIMP-6668
Do you know the release date? CDJapan needs to update.
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOIMP-6669
The Stones GRRRRR on blu ray is excellent. considering the age of the original music great sound quality. yes its on 2 channel but some of that stuff was originally mono. the menu on the stones sucks but thats another story.
i'm waiting for my supertramp to arrive, i have the latest remastered red book cd to compare it with.
Caspersozza
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Thanks for the feedback, LedMan. I have the SACDs that the Stones put out ten years ago, which are also 2.0, and I wasn't greatly impressed by those, not least of all because around the same time Bob Dylan released SACDs that sounded immeasurably better than The Stones ones, and mostly with 5.1 mixes too. Do you know if Grrrr sounds noticeably better than the SACDs?
no idea I'm afraid, though I've a feeling once September's UK launch is out the way (with many of the same rock/pop/jazz/classical titles as the French/FNAC trial) in the run upto Christmas Universal UK will start to release their own titles (if the HFPA Facebook page is anything to go by I'd say look out for BD-A's of Queen, Lionel Richie, Nirvana, etc.). I doubt we'll see any 5.1 HFPA's until Warner & EMI start releasing them, whenever that may be.
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The Stevie Wonder HFPA disc being 2.0 only is the biggest disappointment of all.
A couple of months back I met Robert Margouleff in LA. A synth wiz from Tonto's Expanding Headband, Robert and his partner Malcolm Cecil guided Wonder's pioneering use of electronica in soul music, and co-wrote, engineered and produced four of the five classic Wonder albums.
In recent years Margouleff has been making a living doing surround mixes for the film industry in Hollywood, and is a passionate surround guy. I asked him if he had been asked to work his 5.1 magic on any of those classic albums, and he said that quite the contrary, he had offered to provide surround mixes of them all, but encountered total indifference (I forgot to ask if this was from Wonder or Universal).
When I recently heard about Universal introducing a new high res format and putting out Songs in The Key of Life, I thought, at least they've got someone else to do the job then (Margouleff and Cecil had parted company with Wonder just before Songs....). But no, it's another lazy 2.0 quickie. Rats ass!
A couple of months back I met Robert Margouleff in LA. A synth wiz from Tonto's Expanding Headband, Robert and his partner Malcolm Cecil guided Wonder's pioneering use of electronica in soul music, and co-wrote, engineered and produced four of the five classic Wonder albums.
In recent years Margouleff has been making a living doing surround mixes for the film industry in Hollywood, and is a passionate surround guy. I asked him if he had been asked to work his 5.1 magic on any of those classic albums, and he said that quite the contrary, he had offered to provide surround mixes of them all, but encountered total indifference (I forgot to ask if this was from Wonder or Universal).
When I recently heard about Universal introducing a new high res format and putting out Songs in The Key of Life, I thought, at least they've got someone else to do the job then (Margouleff and Cecil had parted company with Wonder just before Songs....). But no, it's another lazy 2.0 quickie. Rats ass!
The Stevie Wonder BD-A is superb.
I hope Universal give the rest of the SW back catalogue the same treatment.
Of the 6 HFPA's I've got so far (Supertramp, Bob Marley, Pierre Henry, Serge Gainsbourg, Stones, Stevie Wonder)
the Stevie's the most impressive-sounding.
The 5.1 Serge Gainsbourg is gorgeous too, shut your eyes and you'd think he was in the room with you, his voice hard in the centre channel is just extraordinary!
If you like a bass workout, the Bob Marley Legend BD-A has huge bass! It also has noticeably varying volume levels from track to track (the old Barry Diament CD doesn't) which makes me think Universal must have sourced the individual tapes for each song separately rather than just do a flat transfer of the compilation album source & mastering.
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Thanks Jasong and Fredblue. I guess I'll be buying Wonder and The Stones after all.
Margouleff's quad of Edgar Winter's "Jasmine Nightdreams" is one of the most stunningly WILD surround music mixes I've ever heard. I love his Isley Brothers work too.
Kudos to you for asking him about the 5.1 Stevie's, SO sad to hear that he wasn't able to perform his magic on the SW classics he produced due to artist/label apathy.
It is a greatly missed opportunity not to have SITKOL in true discrete 5.1.. however, I will say this, the BD-A synthesizes fantastically well through PLII Music (Panorama On). get the BD-A and give it a try! it's so good, you'd swear it was true surround (I guess there must be a ton of out of phase info because vocals and all sorts of things get magically steered back there.. !?).
come on Stevie! give us the Superstition quad mix! 
http://www.wsdg.com/dynamic.asp?id=press/PSNStevieWonder
http://www.wsdg.com/dynamic.asp?id=press/PSNStevieWonder
you're welcome Caspersozza
no-one's as disappointed as me that these new BD-A's haven't had surround mixes, especially where surround exists like Layla, Diana Krall, Barbara, Johnny Hallyday, etc., its just dumb! (I've badgered Universal's Facebook asking why/if/when etc with 5.1's to no avail..!) fortunately even though these things are "only stereo" for the most part they sound really great, so if you like the artists and you like nice-sounding stereo then they're pretty much essential, imho.
I did not pick up any of the Stones SACDs. I've seen some used copies for between $29.99 and $34.99 but these are usually early Stones releases. I did however recently pick up a few of the SHM-SACD albums including Beggar's Banquet, Let It Bleed, and Sticky Fingers but haven't listened to them yet.
if you are paying $29-34 dollar for the stones sacds -you're getting screwed. maybe that price for hot rocks, more hot rocks and the singles collection. i've bought them all on amazon, i have not paid over $15 for any except the hot rocks, more and singles,. the sound quality is good certainly much better then the abkco releases
my supertramp blu ray arrived today, 4 days shipping from the UK. on first listen, here are my impressions. i have the remastered breakfast in america. i played both of them. the cd was louder at the same volume. the blu ray was a smoother sound, more diffused, like it was in the atmosphere. the cd was brighter but the music did appear to be coming from the speakers. i used the dolby setting. the blu ray had a subtler sound, when i raised the volume on the blu ray incredible.
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