Elton John "Madman Across The Water" 50th Anniversary Box Set (3 CDs & 5.1 Blu-Ray)

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That statement might have meant something at one time...but not anymore....the reality is that not many companies are even interested in physical discs anymore....and the list of those interested in surround discs is even smaller......we are nearing the end of an era...now companies know that customers will pay for streaming or downloads....why would they want to bother with all the headaches of physical discs...
I'm a tad less skeptical, businesses are there to make money and when their strategy to make money doesn't work they can either adapt or stop being an entity (ie -- stop selling the thing, or fold as a business). It's not optimistic to think low sales could impact future releases being pared-down. It's just basic economics applied to our discussion. There's likely a 50/50 chance for either outcome based on the current state of the market(?).

Whether or not there's enough willingness, consumer demand, and margin to continue producing physical media is probably an underlying factor but the idea that "physical surround music is going away" has been espoused for many years to the point it's become a trope on music discussion boards. I'm of the thinking they may be eyeing streaming as an end state, however that's not going to be tomorrow and when it does happen I'll be ready with my library of discs to weather that storm. Controlling our access to music and attaching a subscription to it is going to be a cash cow when it's finally an acceptable norm to all music listeners.
 
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I'm a tad less skeptical, businesses are there to make money and when their strategy to make money doesn't work they can either adapt or stop being an entity (ie -- stop selling the thing, or fold as a business). It's not optimistic to think low sales could impact future releases being pared-down. It's just basic economics applied to our discussion. There's likely a 50/50 chance for either outcome based on the current state of the market(?).

Whether or not there's enough willingness, consumer demand, and margin to continue producing physical media is probably an underlying factor but the idea that "physical surround music is going away" has been espoused for many years to the point it's become a trope on music discussion boards. I'm of the thinking they may be eyeing streaming as an end state, however that's not going to be tomorrow and when it does happen I'll be ready with my library of discs to whether that storm. Controlling our access to music and attaching a subscription to it is going to be a cash cow when it's finally an acceptable norm to all music listeners.
I hope you are right...in any event...I'm riding this wave until it stops...this hobby has been on life support before...then Audio Fidelity stepped up...then Dutton surfaced...now Rhino....I hope it continues:)
 
That statement might have meant something at one time...but not anymore....the reality is that not many companies are even interested in physical discs anymore....and the list of those interested in surround discs is even smaller......we are nearing the end of an era...now companies know that customers will pay for streaming or downloads....why would they want to bother with all the headaches of physical discs...
They just follow trends the more vapid the better I suspect - as I keep seeing cassette releases which must cost more to make than a BDA!
 
They just follow trends the more vapid the better I suspect - as I keep seeing cassette releases which must cost more to make than a BDA!
Yes trends seem to rule the day...look at vinyl...suddenly it became a "thing" again....the 20 somethings thought it was cool....and companies responded...even brick and mortar stores started stocking them
 
I saw several posts asking if this recent sale of this title would have the corrected BDA or not. Before I rip mine open, is there something on the outside of the box that I need to look for to tell me? Or do I have to open it, and rip it to know?
 
I saw several posts asking if this recent sale of this title would have the corrected BDA or not. Before I rip mine open, is there something on the outside of the box that I need to look for to tell me? Or do I have to open it, and rip it to know?
Did anyone actually get the repaired version in the set?
 
Did anyone actually get the repaired version in the set?
I guess I don't know. Just trying to get down to the original issue on this BDA. Mine does say DTS HD High Resolution 5.1 audio on the back of the box. Maybe the issue was labeled as DTS HD on the box, but the BDA only contains lossy. I'd prefer to not have to read all 23 pages if I don't have to.
 
outwardly they appear the same 🤯🤦‍♀️

however.. 👀

original defective Blu-ray

"EL52851-01" in the hub

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replacement corrected Blu-ray

"EM75446-01" in the hub

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I guess I don't know. Just trying to get down to the original issue on this BDA. Mine does say DTS HD High Resolution 5.1 audio on the back of the box. Maybe the issue was labeled as DTS HD on the box, but the BDA only contains lossy. I'd prefer to not have to read all 23 pages if I don't have to.
the album itself on the original BD erroneously has no Lossless DTS HD MA 5.1, only Lossy DTS 5.1.

edit: also the original Blu-ray erroneously omits the Bonus Track Mick Ronson Vn. of "Madman Across The Water" and duplicates the album version! 🤦‍♀️

the replacement corrects that as well.
 
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I guess I don't know. Just trying to get down to the original issue on this BDA. Mine does say DTS HD High Resolution 5.1 audio on the back of the box. Maybe the issue was labeled as DTS HD on the box, but the BDA only contains lossy. I'd prefer to not have to read all 23 pages if I don't have to.
To the best of my knowledge the boxes all contain the defective blu ray, you have to email Universal for the replacement with proof of purchase or a photo of you with the set, not knowing if they’re still doing replacements is putting me off buying, I got the defective blu ray off of ebay for next to nothing and am happy with it but wouldn’t be averse to having the corrected version at a great price
 
That’s the only reason I’ve been holding off, figured they were perhaps dumping the last of a defective box set to clear inventory.

But the question remains, will they ever put the corrected disc into a new batch of this set; and will they have some way to outwardly differentiate it, if they do?
 
I guess I don't know. Just trying to get down to the original issue on this BDA. Mine does say DTS HD High Resolution 5.1 audio on the back of the box. Maybe the issue was labeled as DTS HD on the box, but the BDA only contains lossy. I'd prefer to not have to read all 23 pages if I don't have to.
As the other posters have noted, none of the sets have the repaired disc. You have to send for it sadly.
 
OK, confirmed. Just opened my copy, and my disc matches the numbers above. So, I have the defective disc with incorrect version.
Let us know if you make the effort to go back through this thread for instructions on how to request the replacement disc, GOS. (I buckled and ordered the set from Amazon, too. Mine should arrive tomorrow or Tuesday.) If UMe are selling off remaining inventory of the box, then they're probably sitting on a supply of the replacement discs, too. I hope so!
 
Let us know if you make the effort to go back through this thread for instructions on how to request the replacement disc, GOS. (I buckled and ordered the set from Amazon, too. Mine should arrive tomorrow or Tuesday.) If UMe are selling off remaining inventory of the box, then they're probably sitting on a supply of the replacement discs, too. I hope so!
They apparently do. One customer on SDE site confirmed it yesterday in the comments section:

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