How are you ripping your ATMOS Blu Rays?

[marpow]

I figured out the problem I was having with JRiver. I was using JRiver for the mac and apparently you can't bitstream atmos files on the mac. Works fine on Windows. However, I have a number of mkv files without cover art. I tried to embed cover art using mp3tag and Media Helper but have been unable to do so. How do you do this?

For missing cover art with JRiver I do:
1. MKV file, I am not concerned about cover art as the MKV file on JRiver stores in the video section. The video files when split into chapters or as a whole plays the MKV music and/or video as it would if playing from a Blu Ray player.
2. When storing FLAC files of any kind, stereo, surround, etc, and the rip did not capture cover art, most of the time I go to Discogs, find the album cover, or disc shot, whatever, save image as, add to my desktop. Right click on album, click Cover Art, click Add From File, and done.

Many times, this action will embed in the file, so if you where to remove from your storage and put in another storage you may or may not get the tag.
Usually all the files I have that i add to a second storage, for safe keeping if I didn't get a captured cover art from the intial rip, then I will not have cover art in the safe storage, but I don't care it's always easy to grab cover art.

A note about Discogs cover art, most of the time when an album first comes out what is available are some shitty pictures, but if you go back a month later someone will have put up real nice pictures. Another good source for Hi Res music pictures is HR Audio Net.

Hopefully I answered your question adequately, you can PM me if you want.
I am sure other people do it the same as me or different than me, end result is all that matters.

 

[atrocity]

A note about Discogs cover art, most of the time when an album first comes out what is available are some shitty pictures, but if you go back a month later someone will have put up real nice pictures. Another good source for Hi Res music pictures is HR Audio Net.

Album Art Exchange is often useful, too.

 

[HomerJAU]

Unfortunately, it does not. Still looking for solutions

Named ‘folder.jpg’ ?

 

[yerbas07]

When I rip my Atmos BD it is to have separate files (separate tracks) in TrueHD Atmos 24/48 7.1 m4a formats.
It happens that m4a Atmos is not readable by most known pc players. But my idea of making m4a atmos is so that I can play those files on my Shanling dap. It happens that my Shanling dap moves the time bar, but I don't hear any sound from my headphones.

Is it known why TrueHD Atmos 24/48 7.1 m4a is not supported by pc players and portable daps?

 

[riskylogic]

Kodi plays m4a - that's what I do.

 

[mandrix]

PowerDVD plays m4a. It's a paid app though.

 

[yerbas07]

I'm talking about TrueHd Dolby m4a (24/48) and the difficulty most PC players and DAPs have in reading it. Why this limitation?
By the way, what process do you use to get those Atmos lossless m4a? Just out of curiosity.

 

[mandrix]

I personally rip .iso files and play them in either PowerDVD or JRiver, bitstreamed via HDMI to my AVR.

 

[SeeMoreDigital]

I'm talking about TrueHd Dolby m4a (24/48) and the difficulty most PC players and DAPs have in reading it. Why this limitation?
By the way, what process do you use to get those Atmos lossless m4a? Just out of curiosity.

You might find better support if you muxed Dolby (TrueHD) Atmos streams into the .mka container...

 

[Sal1950]

mka or mkv. Personally I use Makemkv to rip the disc to mkv
Then you can chose what to include and what to leave out of the mkv file to keep that size down.
Leave the 2ch, and TrueHD sections checked, maybe the 5.1? and leave off the rest, or whatever you chose.

 

[LuvMyQuad]

I'm talking about TrueHd Dolby m4a (24/48) and the difficulty most PC players and DAPs have in reading it. Why this limitation?
By the way, what process do you use to get those Atmos lossless m4a? Just out of curiosity.

Kodi reads them with no problem. You can also rip to mkv/mka. Most everything will read those. The only advantage for m4a is you can tag the files. But mka/mkv plus a cue file works just as well, and plays gapless too. m4a will not play gapless.

 

[GOS]

Kodi reads them with no problem. You can also rip to mkv/mka. Most everything will read those. The only advantage for m4a is you can tag the files. But mka/mkv plus a cue file works just as well, and plays gapless too. m4a will not play gapless.

Believe or not, I've never used a cue file, nor do I know how to make one.... I have loads of mkv files and none of them show individual songs, which I find annoying...

 

[SeeMoreDigital]

Believe or not, I've never used a cue file, nor do I know how to make one.... I have loads of mkv files and none of them show individual songs, which I find annoying...

Out of interest... Can you try running one of your .mkv files through an application called MediaInfo, which must be set to text mode and post what it reports 'in full' as a text file.

 

[Sal1950]

Believe or not, I've never used a cue file, nor do I know how to make one.... I have loads of mkv files and none of them show individual songs, which I find annoying...

Isn't Gary's Music Media Helper capable of that?
I'm not logged into Windoz right now to check.

 

[HomerJAU]

I'm talking about TrueHd Dolby m4a (24/48) and the difficulty most PC players and DAPs have in reading it. Why this limitation?

Because most players do not allow the mlpa codec (TrueHD) to be recognised in m4a. Nothing to do with 24/48). Mlpa in m4a was only added to the mpeg spec fairly recently, a few years ago.

I looked at the source code used in VLC and there is a simple case statement that rejects mlpa. I mentioned that here on QQ to users of VLC ages ago to go and log that error but I assume it was never done as the issue is still there years later. The VLC code library is used by other applications or the VLC open source (I suspect JRiver is one, hence same issue with JRiver)

Just to be clear: Kodi and PowerDVD both play TrueHD inc TrueHD Atmos in m4a files.

 

[HomerJAU]

Isn't Gary's Music Media Helper capable of that?

Yes the MMH Chapter Editor will download track titles for an album MKA or MKV file save track titles to the MKA/MKV file chapters and create a CUE file.

 

[HomerJAU]

Out of interest... Can you try running o

MKV files ripped from a disc include unnamed chapters. GOS is saying he does not see the song names.

 

[SeeMoreDigital]

MKV files ripped from a disc include unnamed chapters. GOS is saying he does not see the song names.

I see...

With regard to Blu-ray audio disc back-ups, I must admit that whenever I create a .cue file I have to manually add the song names. Usually I copy and paste the names from the albums Wikipedia page.

 

[HomerJAU]

Try the MMH Chapter Editor and it’s MusicBrainz online lookup to get the song titles:

https://reva.blob.core.windows.net/mmh8/Music Media Helper Documentation.pdf#page49

 

[minimumtumbleweed]

I'm talking about TrueHd Dolby m4a (24/48) and the difficulty most PC players and DAPs have in reading it. Why this limitation?
By the way, what process do you use to get those Atmos lossless m4a? Just out of curiosity.

I have m4as that I rip using the Music Media Helper and they play back no issue on Windows' built in Media Player app. I find that I even have less of that annoying silence at the beginning due to the handshake. And tracks play back gapless so I think it is the best approach currently to playing TrueHD Atmos m4a on PC.

EDIT: Sorry, I miswrote. I'm playing them as mka, not m4a. Better to just use mka as others have said here that m4a may not play gapless.