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King Crimson in 5.1?!
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The subwoofer was the last speaker I purchased for my system and for a while I debated whether I needed one. After listening to 5.1 for about 5 years now, I really feel it takes a subwoofer to lay down that base for the sound structure. I know I sure miss it on the albums that don't have the LFE channel.
daved64
2K Club - QQ Super Nova
Dudes, here is a thread I just started to talk about LFE. Let's keep this for KC 5.1 talk. Yer borin' the shit out of me!
https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/showthread.php?p=97246#post97246
https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/showthread.php?p=97246#post97246
That suggests maybe your non-sub loudspeakers aren't outputting enough low bass, not that you need *encoded LFE content in music*. Needing a subwoofer is not the same as needing LFE.
Anyway I know dave gets bored easily, so it's best we move this LFE geekery now and use this thread to talk about KC discs that haven't come out yet.
daved64
2K Club - QQ Super Nova
We can try to get to 10 pages like other unreleased music has on other forums.:banana:
Edit, make that 10,000!!!
Ge Someone
1K Club - QQ Shooting Star
Yes, the other reason is because we've been there before in this thread (look here). There is not much more we could say about it before we hear those mixes.
In about 7 weeks I will recieve a Burning Shed post containing King Crimson - Red as a DVD- Audio release with extras. Damn!
Back on top(ic)......
Back on top(ic)......
Same here quite exciting isnt it ?
I see that the pre-order of Red on Amazon.com is $32.99. The Burning Shed price is much better than that. Here's the link if you're interested:
http://www.burningshed.com/store/kingcrimson/collection/313/
http://www.burningshed.com/store/kingcrimson/collection/313/
ArnoldLayne
Senior Member
Amazon UK has put preorder at 11.98 but doesn't specify that it's DVD-A. I will stick with BurningShed for all albums. Let's see if the next two will be available soon...
neil wilkes
2K Club - QQ Super Nova
ITCOTCK will be released on it's 40th anniversary.
I get shot at dawn if I miss this deadline, so it will happen on time as I feel sure I wouldn't like that much.
Lizard will follow shortly afterwards.
ArnoldLayne
Senior Member
I posted the news at a spanish forum about these releases, to promote them a little over here too. The people were wondering about the additional audio formats. I've understood DTS is included but I haven't seen any first-hand confirmation that it is 96/24. Neil Wilkes, would it be possible that you enlighten us about this?
Many Thx
AL
PS: Don't worry about sending me my commision. Save it up for a ballistic vest instead, just in case
Many Thx
AL
PS: Don't worry about sending me my commision. Save it up for a ballistic vest instead, just in case
neil wilkes
2K Club - QQ Super Nova
There is no studio version of this title - it only exists as one of the improvisations on "The Great Deceiver".
(It's also "A Journey", not just "Journey" - as was pointed out to me on RC1)
The version of "Providence" is the full one - whereas the version on Red itself is almost 2 1/2 minutes shorter as the tape ran out on the recorder that was used - you can hear the sudden fade-out (later on, a second tape had been found with the additional music, and this is what appeared on TGD).
@ArnoldLayne
Content is as follows for all albums.
1 - 24/48 MLP Lossless 5.1 (Audio Players)
2 - 24/96 MLP Lossless Stereo (Audio Players)
3 - DTS 5.1 from 24/48 source files (Audio & Video players)
4 - 24/48 LPCM (Audio & Video Players)
Bonus content will always be in both stereo formats, and may or may not also be in 5.1.
Video content will always have 24/48 LPCM audio.
ArnoldLayne
Senior Member
Thanks, I have passed the information to the Spanish guys
I think that the version of "Providence" on TGD , while historically interesting, does goes on about 2.5 minutes too long : I agree with the edit on Red ...IMHO
re: A Journey to the Centre of the Cosmos: while it is listed as an improve on the TGD box set, it is actually introduced by title as a work in progress. I am sure there are parts that are structured and improvised.
Looking at the set lists available on http://www.geocities.com/kcrimsonlive/kclive32/index.htm I see that " A Journey" was first listed on 3/29/74 and possibly one or two more times prior to the Providence gig on 6/30/74.
I have not heard these earlier performances, they may be " A Journey" in name only
And to these ears, the opening movements of A Journey is very similar in structure ( but a different key?) to the improve "Asbury Park."
Were the live tracks from Red available from a multi track or just a stereo source?
re: A Journey to the Centre of the Cosmos: while it is listed as an improve on the TGD box set, it is actually introduced by title as a work in progress. I am sure there are parts that are structured and improvised.
Looking at the set lists available on http://www.geocities.com/kcrimsonlive/kclive32/index.htm I see that " A Journey" was first listed on 3/29/74 and possibly one or two more times prior to the Providence gig on 6/30/74.
I have not heard these earlier performances, they may be " A Journey" in name only
And to these ears, the opening movements of A Journey is very similar in structure ( but a different key?) to the improve "Asbury Park."
Were the live tracks from Red available from a multi track or just a stereo source?
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Here is some more information from steve wilson on working on KC project:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Steven-Wilson-On-Remixing-King-Crimson-20442.aspx
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Steven-Wilson-On-Remixing-King-Crimson-20442.aspx
kap'n krunch
2K Club - QQ Super Nova
Cool! Very concise summary.
neil wilkes
2K Club - QQ Super Nova
ALL these are from multitracks.
Providence, as I explained, was not edited but the tape ran out, and the second set was thought to be lost & did not surface until later.....
"ALL these are from multitracks."
Great !
so there exists a future possibilty that the entire Providence show could be released in 5.1. ( I know it depends on cost and demand)
What about the the live tracks on S&BB ? (and the complete show from November 23rd 1973 concert at the Concertgebouw, Amsterdam.)
* my first surrond sound receiver had a surrond sound option of the Concertgebouw Hall.
and are there multi tracks form Asbury Park, NJ, June 28th, 1974?
Great !
so there exists a future possibilty that the entire Providence show could be released in 5.1. ( I know it depends on cost and demand)
What about the the live tracks on S&BB ? (and the complete show from November 23rd 1973 concert at the Concertgebouw, Amsterdam.)
* my first surrond sound receiver had a surrond sound option of the Concertgebouw Hall.
and are there multi tracks form Asbury Park, NJ, June 28th, 1974?
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