Listening to in Dolby Atmos Streaming, via Tidal/Apple/Amazon

[LuvMyQuad]

there are a fair few unique titles, including previously unreleased Quads (possibly worthy of its own thread?) including..

- Jose Feliciano "Compartments", "Feliciano!",
- Harry Belafonte "Live At Carnegie Hall" & "Play Me",
- Johnny Mathis "Love Story", "Me & Mrs Jones", "You've Got A Friend", "Song Sung Blue", "I'm Coming Home", "When Will I See You Again",
- Waylon Jennings "Ladies Love Outlaws",
- Dolly Parton "Bubbling Over",
- Dolly & Porter Wagoner (can't remember the titles, sorry!),
- John Denver "Poems, Prayers & Promises",
- Mahavishnu Orchestra "Between Nothingness And Eternity",
- Harry Nilsson "Nilsson Schmilsson", "Duit On Mon Dei",
- Ray Price "For The Good Times",
- Janis Joplin "Pearl",
- Simon & Garfunkel "Bridge Over Troubled Water",
- Paul Simon "Paul Simon", "There Goes Rhymin' Simon",
- Redbone "Message From A Drum", "Beaded Dreams Through Turquoise Eyes",
- Santana "Borboletta", "Festival",
- Bruce, West & Laing "Why Dontcha",
- Buddy Rich "A Different Drummer",
- Herbie Hancock "Secrets"..

I know there are Billy Joels as well. Piano Man and Turnstiles. They are pretty good too. As are the Simon quads.

 

[César]

David Bowie titles in 360RA are essential to me (Black star, The Next Day, etc.). It's a pity they will disappear without many people having listened to them.

 

[minimumtumbleweed]

David Bowie titles in 360RA are essential to me (Black star, The Next Day, etc.). It's a pity they will disappear without many people having listened to them.

It's a shame, but they are disappearing precisely because very few are really getting any benefit from them. And in contrast, 360RA is blocking legitimate Atmos releases on the platform which are otherwise available on Apple Music.

 

[LennonCobain]

I know there are Billy Joels as well. Piano Man and Turnstiles. They are pretty good too. As are the Simon quads.

I think the Billy Joel quads in 360RA were replaced by the new Spatial Audio 360RA mixes on Tidal.

 

[LennonCobain]

A couple of noteworthy 360RA mixes on Tidal that never were released on Apple Music in Atmos is Men At Work - Down Under and Overkill
https://tidal.com/album/128896406?u
https://tidal.com/album/145221350?u

 

[himey]

I think the Billy Joel quads in 360RA were replaced by the new Spatial Audio 360RA mixes on Tidal.

Was it just Piano Man?

 

[LennonCobain]

Was it just Piano Man?

Turnstiles is just Atmos now, but I believe the 360RA of Piano Man is the new Spatial Audio mix.

 

[Stupy]

there are a fair few unique titles, including previously unreleased Quads (possibly worthy of its own thread?) including....

> Jose Feliciano "Compartments", "Feliciano!",
> Harry Belafonte "Live At Carnegie Hall" & "Play Me",
> - Johnny Mathis "Love Story", "Me & Mrs Jones", "You've Got
>A Friend", "Song Sung Blue", "I'm Coming Home", "When Will
>I See You Again",
> Waylon Jennings "Ladies Love Outlaws",
> Dolly Parton "Bubbling Over",
> Dolly & Porter Wagoner (can't remember the titles, sorry!),
> John Denver "Poems, Prayers & Promises",
> Harry Nilsson "Nilsson Schmilsson", "Duit On Mon Dei",
> Janis Joplin "Pearl",
> Paul Simon "There Goes Rhymin' Simon",
> Redbone "Beaded Dreams Through Turquoise Eyes",
> Redbone "Message From A Drum" - assumed "The Witch Queen of New Orleans"?
> Santana "Borboletta", "Festival",
> Herbie Hancock "Secrets"..

For the above recordings; higher 360RA bit rate was on Deezer (both).

> Mahavishnu Orchestra "Between Nothingness And Eternity",

I have never found the above anywhere but Tidal :-/

> Simon & Garfunkel "Bridge Over Troubled Water",
> Paul Simon "Paul Simon"

These exist (or did exist?) on Amazon in 360RA.

> Ray Price "For The Good Times",
> Bruce, West & Laing "Why Dontcha",
> Buddy Rich "A Different Drummer",

Investigating... all appear on Amazon in 360RA at a higher bit rate.

We live in a digital world... does anything truly disappear?

 

[Stupy]

Turnstiles is just Atmos now, but I believe the 360RA of Piano Man is the new Spatial Audio mix.

... I believe, until I'm corrected, that the new SACD has the Piano Man quad mix ( https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/threads/joel-billy-piano-man-sacd.35641/ ) so that leaves the original Turnstiles quad?

 

[himey]

all appear on Amazon in 360RA at a higher bit rate

How do you get the bitrate? Does it show up on your receiver? Thanks.

 

[MrSmithers]

there are a fair few unique titles, including previously unreleased Quads (possibly worthy of its own thread?) including..

- Jose Feliciano "Compartments", "Feliciano!",
- Harry Belafonte "Live At Carnegie Hall" & "Play Me",
- Johnny Mathis "Love Story", "Me & Mrs Jones", "You've Got A Friend", "Song Sung Blue", "I'm Coming Home", "When Will I See You Again",
- Waylon Jennings "Ladies Love Outlaws",
- Dolly Parton "Bubbling Over",
- Dolly & Porter Wagoner (can't remember the titles, sorry!),
- John Denver "Poems, Prayers & Promises",
- Mahavishnu Orchestra "Between Nothingness And Eternity",
- Harry Nilsson "Nilsson Schmilsson", "Duit On Mon Dei",
- Ray Price "For The Good Times",
- Janis Joplin "Pearl",
- Simon & Garfunkel "Bridge Over Troubled Water",
- Paul Simon "Paul Simon", "There Goes Rhymin' Simon",
- Redbone "Message From A Drum", "Beaded Dreams Through Turquoise Eyes",
- Santana "Borboletta", "Festival",
- Bruce, West & Laing "Why Dontcha",
- Buddy Rich "A Different Drummer",
- Herbie Hancock "Secrets"..

Also additionally I don't think these quads ever made it to ...

Jefferson Airplane - Volunteers
Blood, Sweat & Tears - New Blood
Sly & The Family Stone - Small Talk
Poco - Deliverin’
Friends Of Distinction - Love Can Make It Easier
Edgar Winter - Jasmine Nightdreams
Dave Mason - Split Coconut
Dave Mason - Dave Mason
Dave Mason - It’s Like You Never Left
Nina Simone - Best Of Nina Simone (available on US Apple, not worldwide?)
Tammy Wynette - Tammy’s Greatest Hits
Phoebe Snow - Second Childhood

 

[MrSmithers]

How do you get the bitrate? Does it show up on your receiver? Thanks.

There are 3 levels for streaming MPEG-H (360RA) - L1 at 667 kbps, L2 at 1200 kbps, L3 at 1600 kbps. Tidal chose the lower L1 level whereas Amazon and formally Deezer have/had L3. I think with the quads they are encoded at L2 though, and on Apple they'd most likely be Dolby Digital+ at 640 kbps. The Atmos tracks have a bitrate of 768kbps so quite a bit lower than L3.

It should show up on your AVR if you can access that information... I've only ever seen that info option show on my Blu Ray player though.

 

[fredblue]

> Jose Feliciano "Compartments", "Feliciano!",
> Harry Belafonte "Live At Carnegie Hall" & "Play Me",
> - Johnny Mathis "Love Story", "Me & Mrs Jones", "You've Got
>A Friend", "Song Sung Blue", "I'm Coming Home", "When Will
>I See You Again",
> Waylon Jennings "Ladies Love Outlaws",
> Dolly Parton "Bubbling Over",
> Dolly & Porter Wagoner (can't remember the titles, sorry!),
> John Denver "Poems, Prayers & Promises",
> Harry Nilsson "Nilsson Schmilsson", "Duit On Mon Dei",
> Janis Joplin "Pearl",
> Paul Simon "There Goes Rhymin' Simon",
> Redbone "Beaded Dreams Through Turquoise Eyes",
> Redbone "Message From A Drum" - assumed "The Witch Queen of New Orleans"?
> Santana "Borboletta", "Festival",
> Herbie Hancock "Secrets"..

For the above recordings; higher 360RA bit rate was on Deezer (both).

> Mahavishnu Orchestra "Between Nothingness And Eternity",

I have never found the above anywhere but Tidal :-/

> Simon & Garfunkel "Bridge Over Troubled Water",
> Paul Simon "Paul Simon"

These exist (or did exist?) on Amazon in 360RA.

> Ray Price "For The Good Times",
> Bruce, West & Laing "Why Dontcha",
> Buddy Rich "A Different Drummer",

Investigating... all appear on Amazon in 360RA at a higher bit rate.

We live in a digital world... does anything truly disappear?

great detective work!
Redbone's "Message From A Drum" is aka "The Witch Queen of New Orleans", yes

 

[fredblue]

... I believe, until I'm corrected, that the new SACD has the Piano Man quad mix ( https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/threads/joel-billy-piano-man-sacd.35641/ ) so that leaves the original Turnstiles quad?

really hope Sony Japan get around to doing a MultiCh SACD of "Turnstiles", it would be the Quad's debut on discrete 4-channel disc! maybe for the album's 50th anniversary in 2 year's time

 

[fredblue]

Also additionally I don't think these quads ever made it to ...

Jefferson Airplane - Volunteers
Blood, Sweat & Tears - New Blood
Sly & The Family Stone - Small Talk
Poco - Deliverin’
Friends Of Distinction - Love Can Make It Easier
Edgar Winter - Jasmine Nightdreams
Dave Mason - Split Coconut
Dave Mason - Dave Mason
Dave Mason - It’s Like You Never Left
Nina Simone - Best Of Nina Simone (available on US Apple, not worldwide?)
Tammy Wynette - Tammy’s Greatest Hits
Phoebe Snow - Second Childhood

great finds, thank you!!

in the case of a few of those, some were never released in discrete Quad only on SQ matrix vinyl (i.e. Dave Mason "Split Coconut", Phoebe Snow "Second Childhood") and some were never released in Quad at all..!! (e.g. Blood, Sweat & Tears "New Blood")

 

[Stupy]

Also additionally I don't think these quads ever made it to ...

...

FYI only; thank you all for the lists!

>Jefferson Airplane - Volunteers
>Blood, Sweat & Tears - New Blood
>Sly & The Family Stone - Small Talk
>Poco - Deliverin’
>Edgar Winter - Jasmine Nightdreams
>Dave Mason - Split Coconut
>Dave Mason - Dave Mason
>Dave Mason - It’s Like You Never Left
The above were on Deezer 360RA in higher bit rate.

>Nina Simone - Best Of Nina Simone (available on US Apple, not worldwide?)

There was a version on Deezer in 360RA higher bit rate than Tidal; a completely different track listing to the Amazon Atmos one of the same title. It would do my head in to compare with US Apple lol

>Friends Of Distinction - Love Can Make It Easier
>Tammy Wynette - Tammy’s Greatest Hits
>Phoebe Snow - Second Childhood

I have not looked into these before; looks like all are on Amazon in 360RA though - likely at a higher bit rate.

 

[fripppp]

there are a fair few unique titles, including previously unreleased Quads (possibly worthy of its own thread?) including..

- Jose Feliciano "Compartments", "Feliciano!",
- Harry Belafonte "Live At Carnegie Hall" & "Play Me",
- Johnny Mathis "Love Story", "Me & Mrs Jones", "You've Got A Friend", "Song Sung Blue", "I'm Coming Home", "When Will I See You Again",
- Waylon Jennings "Ladies Love Outlaws",
- Dolly Parton "Bubbling Over",
- Dolly & Porter Wagoner (can't remember the titles, sorry!),
- John Denver "Poems, Prayers & Promises",
- Mahavishnu Orchestra "Between Nothingness And Eternity",
- Harry Nilsson "Nilsson Schmilsson", "Duit On Mon Dei",
- Ray Price "For The Good Times",
- Janis Joplin "Pearl",
- Simon & Garfunkel "Bridge Over Troubled Water",
- Paul Simon "Paul Simon", "There Goes Rhymin' Simon",
- Redbone "Message From A Drum", "Beaded Dreams Through Turquoise Eyes",
- Santana "Borboletta", "Festival",
- Bruce, West & Laing "Why Dontcha",
- Buddy Rich "A Different Drummer",
- Herbie Hancock "Secrets"..

Not quad, but dont forget the unreleased 5.1 of The Byrds Fifth Dimension!

 

[himey]

Not quad, but dont forget the unreleased 5.1 of The Byrds Fifth Dimension!

The version I am listening to now from Tidal appears to be quad? Excellent mix by the way.

 

[benfolds5]

So far it's quite an enjoyable mix.
Lizzo sure get's the most of her flute skills
Looking forward to hear all the other renditions of the great Henry Mancini

 

[fredblue]

The version I am listening to now from Tidal appears to be quad? Excellent mix by the way.

i'm not sure which files those are but they may be the cancelled/previously unreleased Thom Cadley mix that was technically destined to be a 5.1 SACD release but ultimately was more of a 4-channel affair due to a paucity of multitracks?

otoh, the 360RA/Dolby Audio of Byrdmaniax is the 70's 4-channel Quad at it's core