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In addition If you are like me you could add in those deeper tracks that you love (some are even better than the "hits")!
I know what you mean. I prefer the entire side 2 of The Best Of Bread more than the hit-filled side 1. Side 2 holds together with a a great sequencing of songs. There's power pop on side 2 that is greatly lacking on side 1.

For me I would add "Proper Stranger" and "When Friends Fall Out" while deleting "New Mother Nature" but keeping "No Sugar Tonight".
Proper Stranger is such a great tune that I had forgotten that it wasn't on the best-of compilation.

I would also replace "No Time" with the long version from "Canned Wheat"
Blasphemy! :ROFLMAO: That hit single version was my retirement anthem. Gotta have both versions!
 
Proper Stranger is such a great tune that I had forgotten that it wasn't on the best-of compilation.
It was also the flip side of "No Time", most Guess Who singles were actually double sided hits in Canada. The single version of "When Friends Fall Out" was also a hit but it now sounds slightly odd/different when you're used to the album version.

If I was making a stereo best of I would include a few of the Quality records singles as well! My faves are the rockin' tunes like "Shakin' All Over", "Tossin' & Turning", "Clock On The Wall" and "It's My Pride".
 
Yes those DV releases are value priced! I hope that the rest of Guess Who Quads get released even if they are less than stellar mixes. In particular I want "Power in the Music".
Agree. As you say the Quads are apparently fake mixes, but it would be nice to have high quality SACD stereo versions of those great records.
 
Agree. As you say the Quads are apparently fake mixes, but it would be nice to have high quality SACD stereo versions of those great records.

That's correct, the quad mixes of Artificial Paradise, Flavours and Power in the Music are all poorly-done upmixes of the stereo mixes, and last time we spoke about The Guess Who, Mike told me he had no interest in doing these albums. So Long, Bannatyne and Live at the Paramount were never released in quad; D-V had Sony search for unreleased quad mixes of these two albums, but nothing was found..

In my opinion the Best of, Vol. II quad mix is a must-own (it's on the same D-V disc as the underrated Rockin') if you like those post-Bachman Guess Who albums. Every track on that album was remixed, even the ones from albums that had standalone quad release, and 8 of the 10 tracks are from albums never released in quad: two from a non-album single, three from So Long, Bannatyne, one from Live at the Paramount, and two from Artificial Paradise.

If you want nice stereo masterings of the non-quad albums, the Iconoclassic CDs released over the last 10 years or so (mastered by Vic Anesini) are really good sounding and include some bonus tracks.
 
If I was making a stereo best of I would include a few of the Quality records singles as well! My faves are the rockin' tunes like "Shakin' All Over", "Tossin' & Turning", "Clock On The Wall" and "It's My Pride".
Don't miss out on the heart-warming version of "Pretty Blue Eyes" that may feature Walter Brennan.
 

Enoch Light & The Light BrigadeSPANISH STRINGS

working on a conversion of this one in CD-4 and would love to have it from D-V (maybe a twofer with another similar one.)
It's really a great discrete sounding affair with all sorts of percussion, horns (Doc Severinsen), harpsichord, and other orchestral instruments worked into the pieces in a marvelous Quadraphonic soundscape, along with Tony Mottola's guitar. The only thing that concerns me about some of these Tony Mottola releases is I can sometimes get a kind of lower midrange distortion out of his guitar playing, like heavy strums etc.; it almost sounds like it was recorded too hot, or my CD-4 LP is just not in totally pristine condition somehow. Anyone else have this one or other Mottola CD-4's that can address or confirm this, I'd be interested to hear about it please.

The inside gatefold has a song by song instrument breakdown (I believe directed towards the stereo version though, as it just mentions left or right positions and nothing about front to rear, which there most definitely is that distinction on the Quad.)

*also, no Poll thread for this one that I could find, so I'm posting about it here for a recommendation (I'd vote a 9 if there was a Poll :))


SPANISH STRINGS CD-4 FRONT.jpg

Here's what my converted Sides 1 & 2 wavs look like in Audacity

SIDE 1 SPANISH STRINGS.jpg

SIDE 2 SPANISH STRINGS.jpg
 
I promise no more requests after today, please do not respond to negatives only comment on the possibles. Thank You!!

GEORGE BENSON -
Body Talk. CTI CT-6033 [previously CTSQ-6033] (SQ), CTRQ-6033
(QR), CTQ8-6033 (Q8)
{Originally released in separate Quad and Stereo versions, Later
released in Quad only. The same number appears on the early stereo
version and on the later Quad-only version, which are distinguishable
by the SQ logo on the back side of the Quad-only album jacket.}

Brand X Squared
BRECKER BROTHERS -
Back to Back. Arista AQ-4061 (CD4), 7301-4061H (Q8)
CARAVAN -
Stereo Pop Special 94 '74 Record CN 2277/SQ (SQ)
Stereo Pop Special 124 Week 28 '76 Record CN 2575/SQ (SQ)
{BBC Transcription Services LP's for radio air play}

LARRY CORYELL -
At the Village Gate. Vanguard VSQ-40006 (SQ), L-7406 (Q8),
J-14006 (QR), 4R-12 (QS) [Japan]
Introducing Eleventh House. Vanguard VSQ-40036 (SQ),
1C062-95364Q (SQ) [Germany], J-14036 (QR), L-74036 (Q8)
Offering. Vanguard VSQ-40013 (SQ)

EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER -
Welcome Back My Friends, To the Show That Never Ends
- Ladies & Gentlemen. Manticore QT-3-200 (Q8)

FOCUS -
Live at the Rainbow. Sire 7147-7408H (Q8)
Moving Waves. Sire 7147-7401H (Q8)
Stereo Pop Special 120 '76 Record CN 2537/SQ (SQ) [UK]
{BBC Transcription Services LP for radio air play}

JOHN KLEMMER -
Intensity. MCA 37019 [previously Impulse AS-9244] (QS),
MCAC 37019 (QSC), 8027-9244 (QS8)
Magic & Movement. MCA 37020 [previously Impulse AS-9269] (QS)
Waterfalls. MCA 37018 [previously Impulse AS-9220] (QS), YS-8511-AI
(QS) [Japan]
{The titles above were released only in quad, no stereo version known}

RAMSEY LEWIS -
Movie Album. Cadet 7035-782H (Q8)
The Best Of. Cadet 7035-839H & C7035-839 (Q8)
Upendo Ni Pamoja. Columbia CQ-31096 (SQ), CAQ-31096 (Q8)

CHUCK MANGIONE -
Bellavia. A&M QU-54557 (CD4)
Chase the Clouds Away. A&M QU-54518 (CD4), 8Q-54518 (Q8

JONI MITCHELL -
Court & Spark. Asylum EQ-1001 (CD4), 8Q-1001 (Q8)
The Hissing of Summer Lawns. Asylum EQ-1051 (CD4), 8Q-1051 (Q8)

MILTON NASCIMENTO -
Milagre Dos Peixes. EMI Odeon XQMOFB-3762 [Brazil] (SQ)
{The cover unfolds into a poster}
Cade B/W Sacramento, Pablo. EMI Odeon Q7B-652 (SQ45) [Brazil]
{Included in the album "Milagre Dos Peixes"}

PEREZ PRADO -
4 Channel Latin Best. Philips 4DX-31 (CD4) [Japan], Sung Eum Limited
SEL-100 268 (CD4) [Korea]
4 Channel Perez Prado Best. Philips 4DX-34 (CD4) [Japan]
Funky. Philips 4DX-40 (CD4) [Japan]
Mambo Jambo. Victor CD4W-7007E (CD4) [Japan], NQW-7007 & QW-7007 (Q8) [Japan]
Perez Prado In CD-4. Victor CD4W-7042E [Later JVC CD4W-7042E] (CD4) [Japan],
Vicor International VI-1002 (CD4) [Philippines]
{Includes the re-recorded versions of "Mambo No. 5" (aka 7-11) recorded
by The Gone All Stars as a Top-40 hit in 1958, and Prado's 1958 hit
Patricia.}
Taboo. JVC QW-7023 (Q8) [Japan]

FLORA PURIM -
Stories to Tell. Milestone FPM-4005 (CD4), 7163-4005H (Q8)

LOU REED -
Metal Machine Music/The Amine Beta Ring. RCA [2 LP] CPD2-1101
(CD4), CPT2-1101 (Q8)

MONGO SANTAMARIA -
At Montreux. Atlantic QT-1593 [previously L-71593] (Q8)

SEALS & CROFTS -
Diamond Girl. Warner Brothers BS4-2699 (CD4), WSTQ-2699-QF (QR),
L9B-2699 (Q8)
I'll Play for You. Warner Brothers BS4-2848 (CD4), WSTQ-2848-QF
(QR), L9B-2848 (Q8)
Summer Breeze. Warner Brothers BS4-2629 (CD4), WSTQ-2629-QF
(QR), L9B-2629 (Q8)
Unborn Child. Warner Brothers BS4-2761 (CD4), WSTQ-2761-QF (QR),
L9B-2761 (Q8)

STEELY DAN -
Can't Buy a Thrill. Command CQD-40009 (QS), ABC 7022-758H (Q8)
Countdown to Ecstasy. Command CQD-40010 (QS), ABC C7022-779 & 7022-779H (Q8)
Pretzel Logic. Command CQD-40015 (QS), ABC 7022-808N (Q8), ABC
CQT-40015 (Q8) [Canada], Probe IPZ-82002 (QS) [Japan]
Pretzel Logic. ABC PRO-40015, LLP QD-255 (QSEP)
{Includes-With A Gun; Rikki Don't Lose That Number; Barrytown; Pretzel Logic}

STANLEY TURRENTINE -
Don't Mess with Mr. T. CTI CT-6030 [previously CTSQ-6030] (SQ),
CTRQ-6030 (QR), CT8Q-6030 (Q8)
{Originally released in separate Quad and Stereo versions, Later
released in Quad only. The same number appears on the early stereo
version and on the later Quad-only version, which are distinguishable
by the SQ logo on the back side of the Quad-only album jacket.}
Pieces of Dreams. Fantasy FPM-4002 (CD4), 7163-4002H (Q8)

THIJS VAN LEER -
Introspection. Columbia CQ-32346 (SQ), CAQ-32346 (Q8), CBS QVL327
(SQ) [Australia], CBS Q 64589 9 (SQ) [Netherlands], Epic ECPM-71 (SQ)
[Japan], CBS S 64589 9 (SQ) [Italy]
* Introspection II. Columbia M-34510 (SQ), CBS Q 65915 (SQ) [UK &
Netherlands], CBS SBP 234785 (SQ) [Australia]
{The title above was released only in quad in the U.S., Stereo and
Quad in Europe}

EDGAR WINTER -
Free Ride B/W Frankenstein. Epic JBQ-506 (SQ45)
{Special Coin Operator release}
Jasmine Nightdreams. Blue Sky PZQ-33483 (SQ), ZAQ-33483 (DQ8)
Shock Treatment. Epic PEQ-32461 (SQ), EAQ-32461 (DQ8)
They Only Come Out at Night. Epic PEQ-31584 (SQ), EAQ-31584 (Q8),
CBS/Sony ECPN-28 [previously ECPN-19] (SQ) [Japan]

FRANK ZAPPA [see also THE MOTHERS] -
Apostrophe'. Discreet DS4-2175 (CD4), L9D-2175 (Q8


Okay I threw everything at the wall, most won't stick, what might? There is CTI stuff in there so...
I'm late to the party as usual😁, but you've got some great suggestions there. I'd love to have Brazilian jazz vocalist Flora Purim's Stories to Tell (great release) on multi-channel SACD. Edgar Winter's Shock Treatment would also make for a killer release, as it's underrated in my opinion.
 
I promise no more requests after today, please do not respond to negatives only comment on the possibles. Thank You!!

GEORGE BENSON -
Body Talk. CTI CT-6033 [previously CTSQ-6033] (SQ), CTRQ-6033
(QR), CTQ8-6033 (Q8)
{Originally released in separate Quad and Stereo versions, Later
released in Quad only. The same number appears on the early stereo
version and on the later Quad-only version, which are distinguishable
by the SQ logo on the back side of the Quad-only album jacket.}

Brand X Squared
BRECKER BROTHERS -
Back to Back. Arista AQ-4061 (CD4), 7301-4061H (Q8)
CARAVAN -
Stereo Pop Special 94 '74 Record CN 2277/SQ (SQ)
Stereo Pop Special 124 Week 28 '76 Record CN 2575/SQ (SQ)
{BBC Transcription Services LP's for radio air play}

LARRY CORYELL -
At the Village Gate. Vanguard VSQ-40006 (SQ), L-7406 (Q8),
J-14006 (QR), 4R-12 (QS) [Japan]
Introducing Eleventh House. Vanguard VSQ-40036 (SQ),
1C062-95364Q (SQ) [Germany], J-14036 (QR), L-74036 (Q8)
Offering. Vanguard VSQ-40013 (SQ)

EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER -
Welcome Back My Friends, To the Show That Never Ends
- Ladies & Gentlemen. Manticore QT-3-200 (Q8)

FOCUS -
Live at the Rainbow. Sire 7147-7408H (Q8)
Moving Waves. Sire 7147-7401H (Q8)
Stereo Pop Special 120 '76 Record CN 2537/SQ (SQ) [UK]
{BBC Transcription Services LP for radio air play}

JOHN KLEMMER -
Intensity. MCA 37019 [previously Impulse AS-9244] (QS),
MCAC 37019 (QSC), 8027-9244 (QS8)
Magic & Movement. MCA 37020 [previously Impulse AS-9269] (QS)
Waterfalls. MCA 37018 [previously Impulse AS-9220] (QS), YS-8511-AI
(QS) [Japan]
{The titles above were released only in quad, no stereo version known}

RAMSEY LEWIS -
Movie Album. Cadet 7035-782H (Q8)
The Best Of. Cadet 7035-839H & C7035-839 (Q8)
Upendo Ni Pamoja. Columbia CQ-31096 (SQ), CAQ-31096 (Q8)

CHUCK MANGIONE -
Bellavia. A&M QU-54557 (CD4)
Chase the Clouds Away. A&M QU-54518 (CD4), 8Q-54518 (Q8

JONI MITCHELL -
Court & Spark. Asylum EQ-1001 (CD4), 8Q-1001 (Q8)
The Hissing of Summer Lawns. Asylum EQ-1051 (CD4), 8Q-1051 (Q8)

MILTON NASCIMENTO -
Milagre Dos Peixes. EMI Odeon XQMOFB-3762 [Brazil] (SQ)
{The cover unfolds into a poster}
Cade B/W Sacramento, Pablo. EMI Odeon Q7B-652 (SQ45) [Brazil]
{Included in the album "Milagre Dos Peixes"}

PEREZ PRADO -
4 Channel Latin Best. Philips 4DX-31 (CD4) [Japan], Sung Eum Limited
SEL-100 268 (CD4) [Korea]
4 Channel Perez Prado Best. Philips 4DX-34 (CD4) [Japan]
Funky. Philips 4DX-40 (CD4) [Japan]
Mambo Jambo. Victor CD4W-7007E (CD4) [Japan], NQW-7007 & QW-7007 (Q8) [Japan]
Perez Prado In CD-4. Victor CD4W-7042E [Later JVC CD4W-7042E] (CD4) [Japan],
Vicor International VI-1002 (CD4) [Philippines]
{Includes the re-recorded versions of "Mambo No. 5" (aka 7-11) recorded
by The Gone All Stars as a Top-40 hit in 1958, and Prado's 1958 hit
Patricia.}
Taboo. JVC QW-7023 (Q8) [Japan]

FLORA PURIM -
Stories to Tell. Milestone FPM-4005 (CD4), 7163-4005H (Q8)

LOU REED -
Metal Machine Music/The Amine Beta Ring. RCA [2 LP] CPD2-1101
(CD4), CPT2-1101 (Q8)

MONGO SANTAMARIA -
At Montreux. Atlantic QT-1593 [previously L-71593] (Q8)

SEALS & CROFTS -
Diamond Girl. Warner Brothers BS4-2699 (CD4), WSTQ-2699-QF (QR),
L9B-2699 (Q8)
I'll Play for You. Warner Brothers BS4-2848 (CD4), WSTQ-2848-QF
(QR), L9B-2848 (Q8)
Summer Breeze. Warner Brothers BS4-2629 (CD4), WSTQ-2629-QF
(QR), L9B-2629 (Q8)
Unborn Child. Warner Brothers BS4-2761 (CD4), WSTQ-2761-QF (QR),
L9B-2761 (Q8)

STEELY DAN -
Can't Buy a Thrill. Command CQD-40009 (QS), ABC 7022-758H (Q8)
Countdown to Ecstasy. Command CQD-40010 (QS), ABC C7022-779 & 7022-779H (Q8)
Pretzel Logic. Command CQD-40015 (QS), ABC 7022-808N (Q8), ABC
CQT-40015 (Q8) [Canada], Probe IPZ-82002 (QS) [Japan]
Pretzel Logic. ABC PRO-40015, LLP QD-255 (QSEP)
{Includes-With A Gun; Rikki Don't Lose That Number; Barrytown; Pretzel Logic}

STANLEY TURRENTINE -
Don't Mess with Mr. T. CTI CT-6030 [previously CTSQ-6030] (SQ),
CTRQ-6030 (QR), CT8Q-6030 (Q8)
{Originally released in separate Quad and Stereo versions, Later
released in Quad only. The same number appears on the early stereo
version and on the later Quad-only version, which are distinguishable
by the SQ logo on the back side of the Quad-only album jacket.}
Pieces of Dreams. Fantasy FPM-4002 (CD4), 7163-4002H (Q8)

THIJS VAN LEER -
Introspection. Columbia CQ-32346 (SQ), CAQ-32346 (Q8), CBS QVL327
(SQ) [Australia], CBS Q 64589 9 (SQ) [Netherlands], Epic ECPM-71 (SQ)
[Japan], CBS S 64589 9 (SQ) [Italy]
* Introspection II. Columbia M-34510 (SQ), CBS Q 65915 (SQ) [UK &
Netherlands], CBS SBP 234785 (SQ) [Australia]
{The title above was released only in quad in the U.S., Stereo and
Quad in Europe}

EDGAR WINTER -
Free Ride B/W Frankenstein. Epic JBQ-506 (SQ45)
{Special Coin Operator release}
Jasmine Nightdreams. Blue Sky PZQ-33483 (SQ), ZAQ-33483 (DQ8)
Shock Treatment. Epic PEQ-32461 (SQ), EAQ-32461 (DQ8)
They Only Come Out at Night. Epic PEQ-31584 (SQ), EAQ-31584 (Q8),
CBS/Sony ECPN-28 [previously ECPN-19] (SQ) [Japan]

FRANK ZAPPA [see also THE MOTHERS] -
Apostrophe'. Discreet DS4-2175 (CD4), L9D-2175 (Q8


Okay I threw everything at the wall, most won't stick, what might? There is CTI stuff in there so...
How I would love to get any of those Steely Dan's, I'd be very happy with just the original QUAD mixes, don't even have to be remixed Dolby Atmos, just Quad BD ray or SACD.
 
How I would love to get any of those Steely Dan's, I'd be very happy with just the original QUAD mixes, don't even have to be remixed Dolby Atmos, just Quad BD ray or SACD.
Dutton Vocalion only has access to the RCA/BMG catalog, they won't release material they can't license. The Joni Mitchell titles someone above suggested are already available in Quad ("Quadio") and Dolby Atmos on the Rhino Asylum Albums box set in Blu-ray format. "Summer Breeze" is also already available in Quadio from Rhino on Blu-ray.
 
Before his death, Lou Reed released an SACD of Metal Machine Music and sold it through his online store. While I admire Reed's determination to pursue a new creative direction, Metal Machine Music is no electronic music masterwork.
 
That's correct, the quad mixes of Artificial Paradise, Flavours and Power in the Music are all poorly-done upmixes of the stereo mixes, and last time we spoke about The Guess Who, Mike told me he had no interest in doing these albums. So Long, Bannatyne and Live at the Paramount were never released in quad; D-V had Sony search for unreleased quad mixes of these two albums, but nothing was found..

What would be the odds of gathering the multitracks and making *New* Quad mixes of Paradise, Bannatyne, Flavours, Power and.... dare I say the Full Paramount show?

I mean.... it doesn't seem too out of line. We had two newly mixed tracks for the Raiders Hard & Heavy with Marshmallow and hasn't Mr. Dutton remixed a slew of classical titles? Sure, it may seem like a long shot but.... you never know until you ask! The Paramount show has NEVER been released in it's entirety so, that could be a Vocalion exclusive not only in stereo but also first time in surround. The other albums would also make for fantastic two-fer sets.
 
"Doesn't seem too out of line," eh? For the release of Bobby Bare Sings Shel Silverstein, Plus, Bear Family commissioned stereo mixdowns of six unissued RCA Bare titles stored in the Sony vaults. Sony's charge for retrieving the multi-channel reels, transporting them to a studio, then creating new stereo mixes of those six unissued tracks? $20,000. Mr. Dutton knows the practicality behind making new quad mixes.
 

Enoch Light & The Light BrigadeSPANISH STRINGS

working on a conversion of this one in CD-4 and would love to have it from D-V (maybe a twofer with another similar one.)
It's really a great discrete sounding affair with all sorts of percussion, horns (Doc Severinsen), harpsichord, and other orchestral instruments worked into the pieces in a marvelous Quadraphonic soundscape, along with Tony Mottola's guitar. The only thing that concerns me about some of these Tony Mottola releases is I can sometimes get a kind of lower midrange distortion out of his guitar playing, like heavy strums etc.; it almost sounds like it was recorded too hot, or my CD-4 LP is just not in totally pristine condition somehow. Anyone else have this one or other Mottola CD-4's that can address or confirm this, I'd be interested to hear about it please.

The inside gatefold has a song by song instrument breakdown (I believe directed towards the stereo version though, as it just mentions left or right positions and nothing about front to rear, which there most definitely is that distinction on the Quad.)

*also, no Poll thread for this one that I could find, so I'm posting about it here for a recommendation (I'd vote a 9 if there was a Poll :))


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Here's what my converted Sides 1 & 2 wavs look like in Audacity

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I have this one on both QS and SQ. The QS version, through the Surround Master, sounds extremely discrete! Still, I agree this would be a great album for D-V to release.
 
Before his death, Lou Reed released an SACD of Metal Machine Music and sold it through his online store. While I admire Reed's determination to pursue a new creative direction, Metal Machine Music is no electronic music masterwork.
But Lou must have either pulled one on RCA in '75, and still gets a kick out of the "put on" or else he really thinks it's a modern electronic masterpiece.
He did claim way back that he thought it would have done better had it been a the RCA Red Seal label, like a classical designation for it.

But it's way up there on many folks lists of worst albums of all time.
 
not sure he's getting a kick out of much these days?! 😬 not even the bucket that he kicked a while back 🤷🏻‍♀️
Of course. But I mean at the time of SACD of Metal Machine Music sold through his store, he could have still been being a jerk about it.
I actually think he liked it to some degree.
 
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