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Imbobman said:
TDLDR...? (never saw that acronym before.)
But I did read it all. Excellent article..... @JohnN , at first I thought you wrote this, that made me take back everything I ever said about you😅
I'm rethinking the up coming SB.... Mahomes may just be the best ever!
Remembering the SB he lost to Tampa Bay, I went away thinking just how hard Mahomes had played in a losing effort.
He is truly a once in a generation talent for sure! Thanks for putting that up @JohnN
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RickyPicks is glad that you are now questioning post 5190
 
JohnN said:
We were standing around a podium at a suburban Miami hotel four years ago — maybe seven or eight of us left — listening to Patrick Mahomes explain how it is he plays quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs.

His dad was a big league pitcher. All the family friends were big league players. He grew up around clubhouses, taking ground balls, making throws from shortstop, hitting off the batting tees: It was all baseball all the time.

And then he started playing quarterback, differently than others played quarterback, using all the skills he had picked up playing shortstop and doing infield drills, throwing from angles others hadn’t seen before, seeing things that others didn’t seem to see.
Mahomes is only 28 years old and he is the greatest quarterback I’ve ever seen.
You can have Tom Brady and all his championships. You can have Joe Montana and his brilliant Super Bowl performances. You can have the statistics or the accuracy of Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning or Dan Marino. You can have the blood and guts of Brett Favre or Drew Brees. You can have be the athletic adonis that John Elway was or be the precision surgeon Johnny Unitas happened to be.
You can have all of that.

I’ll take Mahomes, the shortstop playing quarterback like no one has ever played before. He throws overhand when he needs to or has to. He throws sidearm, like he went deep in the hole and had to make the throw to second base. He throws underhand if need be, like he was starting an easy double play. And what he didn’t get from baseball — was football vision. Which is always and often what separates the absolute elite athletes of any sport.
Who had better vision that Wayne Gretzky or Steve Nash? Who had better vision and timing than Montana? Who has better vision now than Steph Curry, still, or LeBron James forever. This is why Nikita Kucherov leads the NHL in scoring and among the many reasons why Connor McDavid will challenge in the second half of the season for the scoring championship.
Mahomes sees what others cannot see. He doesn’t run the way Lamar Jackson or Justin Fields happen to run. Few can. But he has Ben Roethlisberger instincts at a higher level than Roethlisberger ever played. He slides like no one slides in the pocket. He finds openings that few are able to find.

He doesn’t need a Joe Burrow arm to bring the Chiefs back to the Super Bowl again — for the fourth time in five seasons — he just needs to be himself.
The quarterback he talked to us about being five years and two Super Bowl wins ago has grown up at a rather young age. Every year he does something he didn’t do the year before. Every year he finds another way to throw, another angle, another baseball play of some kind, to do differently. He doesn’t have the explosive offence with Tyreek Hill anymore. He has receivers who dropped too many passes this season. He had a beaten up Travis Kelce for a lot of the season, before he was equally brilliant — what a team they are — in the AFC title game on Sunday.

But it all starts with Mahomes and coach Andy Reid, the perfect combination of quarterback and head coach, if any combination in any sport is ever perfect. Reid has absolute understanding of what Mahomes can do — and when he can do it — and Mahomes responds with his remarkable talent and charm.
He doesn’t throw interceptions in big games and big moments. He takes fewer sacks than almost anyone who plays the game, and that’s lining up behind a wonky offensive line. The pass he threw Sunday to Marquez Valdes-Scantling — a basketball version of an alley oop deep downfield — was a pass that almost fell from the sky, softly into the receiver’s hands. Who else can do that?

I’ve had a fortunate view of Super Bowls up close over the years. The first Super Bowl I covered, sitting next to the late Jim Hunt, had Montana playing against Elway.
After that I got to chronicle wins by Brady, wins by Troy Aikman, a win by Rodgers and Manning and somehow wins by the other brother, Eli Manning. I had the opportunity to write about the joy of victories by Steve Young and Kurt Warner and two wins and two losses by Elway, and even the strange triumph of Joe Flacco over Colin Kaepernick.
I once thought Montana was the best big game quarterback I’d ever seen. And he was exceptional. And I once thought, like so many think now, that Brady is the greatest ever because of his array of championships. And I thought nobody could do what Rodgers could do, or throw the way Marino threw.

Opinions and thoughts change over time just as games and sports do. The Chiefs went into Buffalo one Sunday ago and into Baltimore, against the toughest defence in football, and Mahomes didn’t need a cape to be Superman. He was just himself. That was Superman enough to get him to his fourth Super Bowl in five seasons.
Patrick Mahomes. The greatest to ever play.
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https://torontosun.com/sports/football/nfl/simmons-you-can-have-tom-brady-ill-take-patrick-mahomes
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To summarize concisely what the above means to the Niners, "Boys, you in big trouble."

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Bill B said:
The one thing that cracks me up is when fans start to think it's destiny for their team to win. There is no such thing as destiny in football, or any sport, even though there is a romantic notion that there is. From the fan interviews I've seen, there is a certain segment of fans for every playoff team that feel that way from the beginning of the playoffs. By the time you get to the final four, most fans start to think that "it's our destiny, way. That just makes losing worse. It's a game where anything can happen and there are no certainties.
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That is except for the 1969 Miracle Mets. You might recall that series, Bill. And it wasn't a single game elimination tournament. The ultra-powerful Orioles could not put it together for four straight games.

There have also been a number of instances where it was one city's year, such as 1969 for the Jets and Mets, followed shortly after by the Knicks in 1970. (Let's not talk about the Rangers.) This single metro area multiple championship thing has happened 18 times. 2020 would have been a three champion year except for the Rays losing to the Dodgers in the World Series. Sometimes it is just weird.
 
ar surround said:
That is except for the 1969 Miracle Mets. You might recall that series, Bill. And it wasn't a single game elimination tournament. The ultra-powerful Orioles could not put it together for four straight games.

There have also been a number of instances where it was one city's year, such as 1969 for the Jets and Mets, followed shortly after by the Knicks in 1970. (Let's not talk about the Rangers.) This single metro area multiple championship thing has happened 18 times. 2020 would have been a three champion year except for the Rays losing to the Dodgers in the World Series. Sometimes it is just weird.
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I was in 2nd grade so, I remember, but not much. :)

And is a miracle the same as destiny?
 
ar surround said:
@marpow I just read that every time the Niners have beaten a team with a blue uniform in the NFC championship game, they've gone on to win the Super Bowl. So there you have it. Sunday is a lock for the Niners even with The Baby Faced Assassin on the other side.
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....but the Lions had their white uniforms on. So you are fucked Markie
 
Well, there was a little bit of blue, so I think we will win by one point?
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Imbobman said:
TDLDR...? (never saw that acronym before.)
But I did read it all. Excellent article..... @JohnN , at first I thought you wrote this, that made me take back everything I ever said about you😅
I'm rethinking the up coming SB.... Mahomes may just be the best ever!
Remembering the SB he lost to Tampa Bay, I went away thinking just how hard Mahomes had played in a losing effort.
He is truly a once in a generation talent for sure! Thanks for putting that up @JohnN
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Just read it all the way through now at breakfast. Yes, good article thanks @JohnN . Of the gazillion articles I've read about Mahomes this worked from a slightly different angle.

Now the QQ football nerd herd has to get through a weekend without football. Oh, there's the pro bowl but as I said... a weekend without football.
 
I'm not sure how they decide this stuff but the Chiefs will be the "home" team hosting the 49'ers. That means they will have their name (hopefully not Chef's) painted in the end zone. And they get to occupy the Raider's swank locker room too. That's gotta drive some LV Raider's fans nuts.

Nice stadium:

 
From the head of Markie.
Everyone wants to win every game, of course.
Niner fans want a 6th trophy, this being our 8th Super Bowl.
We do not want to be re-classified as the team that can go but can't win.
An extra bonus for True 49er fans, we have always hated the Raiders, even though they where just across the Bridge. True Raider fans have always hated the Niners for the same reason.
Then there are a few who like both teams because that person is from the Bay Area.
As a person who has always hated the Raiders, IF the Niners win, we will get the added bonus of winning the Super Bowl in there stadium.
As Kansas City, also hates the Raiders as a Division rival, the same will hold true for Chiefs fans.

As I write, I am listening to Yes in Atmos, stunning, IV'E SEEN ALL GOOD PEOPLE.
 
marpow said:
From the head of Markie.
Everyone wants to win every game, of course.
Niner fans want a 6th trophy, this being our 8th Super Bowl.
We do not want to be re-classified as the team that can go but can't win.
An extra bonus for True 49er fans, we have always hated the Raiders, even though they where just across the Bridge. True Raider fans have always hated the Niners for the same reason.
Then there are a few who like both teams because that person is from the Bay Area.
As a person who has always hated the Raiders, IF the Niners win, we will get the added bonus of winning the Super Bowl in there stadium.
As Kansas City, also hates the Raiders as a Division rival, the same will hold true for Chiefs fans.

As I write, I am listening to Yes in Atmos, stunning, I'VE SEEN ALL GOOD PEOPLE.
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Great, great song. Because of this I'm convinced not to jinx the Niners. May the best red/read team win.
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marpow said:
From the head of Markie.
As a person who has always hated the Raiders, IF the Niners win, we will get the added bonus of winning the Super Bowl in there stadium.
As Kansas City, also hates the Raiders as a Division rival, the same will hold true for Chiefs fans.
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And in that sense it would no loss for either team!

I found this kinda interesting. Esp mentioning the Chief's/Raiders rivalry :

https://news3lv.com/news/instagram/...nt-stadium-afc-pro-football-championship-nfl#
 
ar surround said:
Brock Purdy. I don't know if anyone had mentioned it earlier...they probably did and I just missed it...but I was really impressed with his second half performance. The kid's got moxie. He made so many key plays and always looked like he was in total control of the situation. Mr. Irrelevant? Bullshit.
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I was impressed too - unfortunately. His view of the field and his decisions were the key to victory along with that helmet bounce
 
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