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Butkus was awesome! In today's NFL, he'd be suspended every other week.
I love watching old nfl games from the 1950-'60s. Late hits out of bounds were very common. Cheap shots galore (well, that's what we'd call them nowdays), but hardly ever any fights, etc.
I heard somebody say that ' today's players are better athletes but not necessarily better football players'. By and large I agree....
 
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A storm of biblical proportions. 57 dead, 27 in Erie County NY. People found dead in or near their vehicles. :(
Except for the city of Buffalo itself and a few expressways, all driving bans have been lifted. Buffalo still has major problems with residents trying to venture out onto streets that have not been touched yet. They get stuck and are left in the middle of the road, so plows and emergency vehicles cant pass. The fatalities you talked about happened to do this in the middle of a blizzard. They died either from exposure or CO poisoning from their running car when the wind and snow blocked their exhaust pipes. Even those that called for help couldn't be reached because of the blizzard itself and the blockages from abandoned cars. Keep in mind a lot of these people are doing foolish things like going out in 2WD sedans. Several stores in the downtown area have been looted.

There is a travel ban in place in Buffalo but it is being ignored and knowingly violated by the population. The problem is so bad the state has called in 100 military police to manage the traffic situation.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.
 
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I just saw GB is favored by 3 1/2 over Minnesota. That seems backwards🤔.
I can see GB getting blown out!
The last 3 games they've been winning ugly! 2 against bad teams ( Chicago/ LA rams) & 1 stupid team -Miami. Why did Miami give up trying to run? GB can't stop the run!
Miami's 4 possessions in the 2nd half were:
1. missed fg
2. Interception
3. Interception
4. Interception
....game over!
 
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I just saw GB is favored by 3 1/2 over Minnesota. That seems backwards🤔.
I can see GB getting blown out!
The last 3 games they've been winning ugly! 2 against bad teams ( Chicago/ LA rams) & 1 stupid team -Miami. Why did Miami give up trying to run? GB can't stop the run!
Miami's 4 possessions in the 2nd half were:
1. missed fg
2. Interception
3. Interception
4. Interception
....game over!
I agree with you but it is a division game and it is in GB and it will be January.
Apparently most bettors agree. Even with the current -3½ point spread 62% of bettors are betting on GB.
 
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Hey Ricky @cbmmm3 , this guy just dissed us. No mention of the Lions or the Jets in his top 9 picks to win this February's Super Bowl. He's a real heathen! :ROFLMAO:

I just saw GB is favored by 3 1/2 over Minnesota. That seems backwards🤔.
Green Bay is one of those nationwide "bandwagon" teams like Dallas and Notre Dame. They win a few games in a row and hoards of people suddenly jump on the bandwagon.

I'm so sick of hearing "The Pack is Back" all over New Jersey for 60+ years now. You'd think that Green Bay was a town just outside of New Brunswick, NJ. No. Wait. South Bend is just outside of New Brunswick; Green Bay is the next town over. The Pack isn't back. They've never left because they've never had lousy ownership and management like the Lions and Jets. An auto magnate and a petroleum magnate...two of a kind.

The Vikings won't blow out GB this weekend because they are the NFC's version of the Chiefs. They play down to the competition and strive for the title, Masters of Brinkmanship.
 
No, I'm not one of those rabid fans who thinks GB fans are garbage. Jesus, it's sports. I have a LOT of super friends in the GB, down to West Bend area. But, I do know that some fans take it way too far and I don't really want to give any props to them. I mean, hatred? I dunno...how weird.
 
I know we are mainly talking NFL stuff here, but college basketball/football is kind of a big deal where I live too. For me that means mainly KU Jayhawks and they made it to their first bowl game since 2008. They started off terrible and the half time score was 31-13 favoring the Arkansas Razorbacks.

Some how KU chiseled away and at the end was tied 38-38 & into overtime. Not once, not twice, but THREE OT sessions! Gadzooks! Ultimately Arkansas prevailed at 55-53. Damn what a game. You can drink a lot of beer in 3 OT's.
 
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Something to do while killing time before a special breakfast that Mrs Surround has promised to make for us this morning:

Bird Teams:
Ravens
Eagles
Seahawks
Cardinals
Falcons

Big Cat Teams:
Bengals (a.k.a. The Bungles...I wouldn't call them that today)
Jaguars (or simply The Jags)
Lions
Panthers

Other Animal Teams:
Dolphins (a.k.a The Fish)
Broncos (a.k.a. Orange Crush)
Colts
Rams
Bears (a.k.a. Da Bears)

People Teams:
Bills (Watch out...they have a big mafia)
Patriots (simply The Pats)
Chiefs
Raiders (You can take the Raiders out of Oakland, but you can't take Oakland out of the Raiders)
Steelers (a.k.a. The Steel Curtain)
Browns (Version 2.0)
Texans
Cowboys (a.k.a. America's Team)
Commanders (formerly The Team Which Must Not Be Named)
49ers (simply The Niners)
Vikings (a.k.a. The Purple People Eaters)
Packers (simply The Pack)
Buccaneers (formerly The Succaneers pre-GOAT)
Saints (Who Dat?)

Mythical Creature Teams:
Titans (But they used to be called The Oilers)
Giants (a.k.a G-Men)

Thing Teams:
Jets (a.k.a Gang Green)
Chargers (a.k.a. The Bolts)

Any other noteworthy nicknames? And @cbmmm3 , when it comes to Lions nicknames, please remember that this is a family venue.
 
Something to do while killing time before a special breakfast that Mrs Surround has promised to make for us this morning:

Bird Teams:
Ravens
Eagles
Seahawks
Cardinals
Falcons

Big Cat Teams:
Bengals (a.k.a. The Bungles...I wouldn't call them that today)
Jaguars (or simply The Jags)
Lions
Panthers

Other Animal Teams:
Dolphins (a.k.a The Fish)
Broncos (a.k.a. Orange Crush)
Colts
Rams
Bears (a.k.a. Da Bears)

People Teams:
Bills (Watch out...they have a big mafia)
Patriots (simply The Pats)
Chiefs
Raiders (You can take the Raiders out of Oakland, but you can't take Oakland out of the Raiders)
Steelers (a.k.a. The Steel Curtain)
Browns (Version 2.0)
Texans
Cowboys (a.k.a. America's Team)
Commanders (formerly The Team Which Must Not Be Named)
49ers (simply The Niners)
Vikings (a.k.a. The Purple People Eaters)
Packers (simply The Pack)
Buccaneers (formerly The Succaneers pre-GOAT)
Saints (Who Dat?)

Mythical Creature Teams:
Titans (But they used to be called The Oilers)
Giants (a.k.a G-Men)

Thing Teams:
Jets (a.k.a Gang Green)
Chargers (a.k.a. The Bolts)

Any other noteworthy nicknames? And @cbmmm3 , when it comes to Lions nicknames, please remember that this is a family venue.
never mind football, what time is breakfast being served ? me and Mrs cbmmm3 are hungry. we'll start driving east........ ;)
 
Something to do while killing time before a special breakfast that Mrs Surround has promised to make for us this morning:

Bird Teams:
Ravens
Eagles
Seahawks
Cardinals
Falcons

Big Cat Teams:
Bengals (a.k.a. The Bungles...I wouldn't call them that today)
Jaguars (or simply The Jags)
Lions
Panthers

Other Animal Teams:
Dolphins (a.k.a The Fish)
Broncos (a.k.a. Orange Crush)
Colts
Rams
Bears (a.k.a. Da Bears)

People Teams:
Bills (Watch out...they have a big mafia)
Patriots (simply The Pats)
Chiefs
Commanders (The Team Which Must Not Be Named)
Nice list....Oh, did you meant to say Redskins? I'm not PC. Commanders is a dumb sounding team name!

49ers (simply The Niners)
Vikings (a.k.a. The Purple People Eaters)
Packers (simply The Pack)
Buccaneers (formerly The Succaneers pre-GOAT)
Saints (Who Dat?)

Mythical Creature Teams:
Titans (But they used to be called The Oilers)
Giants (a.k.a G-Men)

Thing Teams:
Jets (a.k.a Gang Green)
Chargers (a.k.a. The Bolts)

Any other noteworthy nicknames? And @cbmmm3 , when it comes to Lions nicknames, please remember that this is a family venue.
 
Something to do while killing time before a special breakfast that Mrs Surround has promised to make for us this morning:

Bird Teams:
Ravens
Eagles
Seahawks
Cardinals
Falcons

Big Cat Teams:
Bengals (a.k.a. The Bungles...I wouldn't call them that today)
Jaguars (or simply The Jags)
Lions
Panthers

Other Animal Teams:
Dolphins (a.k.a The Fish)
Broncos (a.k.a. Orange Crush)
Colts
Rams
Bears (a.k.a. Da Bears)

People Teams:
Bills (Watch out...they have a big mafia)
Patriots (simply The Pats)
Chiefs
Raiders (You can take the Raiders out of Oakland, but you can't take Oakland out of the Raiders)
Steelers (a.k.a. The Steel Curtain)
Browns (Version 2.0)
Texans
Cowboys (a.k.a. America's Team)
Commanders (formerly The Team Which Must Not Be Named)
49ers (simply The Niners)
Vikings (a.k.a. The Purple People Eaters)
Packers (simply The Pack)
Buccaneers (formerly The Succaneers pre-GOAT)
Saints (Who Dat?)

Mythical Creature Teams:
Titans (But they used to be called The Oilers)
Giants (a.k.a G-Men)

Thing Teams:
Jets (a.k.a Gang Green)
Chargers (a.k.a. The Bolts)

Any other noteworthy nicknames? And @cbmmm3 , when it comes to Lions nicknames, please remember that this is a family venue.
Actually the Bills are an interesting case. The city name is also the name of an animal which graces their helmets. They could be included as an animal team. Weird, wild, stuff. :D
 
Oop's looks like I need to predict.

Niners beat Raiders for 9 wins in a row.

I hope:
New Orleans beats Eagles.
Green Bay beats Vikings.
Buffalo beats Cinci.

Why: I want SF to be #1 seed in NFC and I want SF to play Bills in Superbowl.
 
Oop's looks like I need to predict.

Niners beat Raiders for 9 wins in a row.

I hope:
New Orleans beats Eagles.
Green Bay beats Vikings.
Buffalo beats Cinci.

Why: I want SF to be #1 seed in NFC and I want SF to play Bills in Superbowl.

Yes, wishful thinking for a win by the poor New Orleans against the mighty Eagles. Green Bay over the Vikings is still possible, This team does play well in cold weather and I don't have a clue who's going to win between the Cincinnati Bengals and the Bills.
 
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