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And ATMOS wouldn't be NIFTY without some TAYLOR SWIFTY
Upmixes no matter how good and how much real separation achieved, do not make me feel that I am in the studio with the recording team listening to the group put down their final over-dubs while listening to the playback of sub-groups off the mixing board. Good 5.1 or quad really get one closer to the studio performance as it really is.
I’m not sure upmixes can ever be so authentic. Maybe it depends on how well it’s done.
I’ve really enjoyed the fact that 2016, 17, 18, and 19 brought us quite a bit of the real stuff. I’d hate for Dolby to come along and show that real 5.1 from multitrack tapes is the old way to do it, and now there is a much less expensive way that is so good nobody can tell the difference. Who needs to bother with multis when you have the new Dolby method! On a “sound bar” nobody could yell the difference is what they will tell us.
Thank you so much, my friend, for including me in such esteemed company as holland123, but he's the upmix master (the only way I know how to do upmixes is with SpecWeb, lol). The stuff I've shared with you are mixes from multitracks and stemsYou are wrong if you think upmixes can't sound authentic..and actually calling some of these titles done by Holland123 or skherbeck upmixes is a disservice..the idea that just because a job is done by so called "professionals" with more resources that it is better has been disproven on a much too regular basis..
I haven’t heard Holland123’s work, so far as labeled as such. So no you are wrong in me labeling his work as anything, up or down mixes or discreet stems. He even agreed that they are a rough ride without speaking of any titles in particular. Skherbeck mixing studio or extraction tools - no never heard them.You are wrong if you think upmixes can't sound authentic..and actually calling some of these titles done by Holland123 or skherbeck upmixes is a disservice..the idea that just because a job is done by so called "professionals" with more resources that it is better has been disproven on a much too regular basis..
But there s a mountainous difference between stems and separations. It is far more work to separate sounds than it is to just mix multis.Others have already done the RockBand sync-ups right. I think a have a few dozen of them in surround. Never heard one reach Steven Wilson quality in the channel assignment. It should be easy to do if one has the good taste and time to do it. The complete Abbey Road Album was one of the best I’ve heard.
Actually, no. It's not a term which reflects quality but rather is one that describes the origin of the material.You are wrong if you think upmixes can't sound authentic..and actually calling some of these titles done by Holland123 or skherbeck upmixes is a disservice..the idea that just because a job is done by so called "professionals" with more resources that it is better has been disproven on a much too regular basis..
There is plenty of compelling music being made today. I hope that Universal/Dolby consider artistic merit as well as commercial popularity. Was "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots" the biggest hit of 2002? Was "American Beauty" the biggest album of 1971? (That would be the Jesus Christ Superstar soundtrack.) Good music is made in every era including the current one. You just have to know how to find it. Same as it ever was.And ATMOS wouldn't be NIFTY without some TAYLOR SWIFTY
I know, but it is not well known how many or which Rockband elements are extractions and which as multis. That is all we were discussing. And at the same time, mixing something into compelling 4.0 or 5.1 etc. is a real art not everyone has the skill or good taste. H123's work was not in question. But mixing can be very involved, maybe just as much work?But there s a mountainous difference between stems and separations. It is far more work to separate sounds than it is to just mix multis.
I haven’t heard Holland123’s work, so far as labeled as such. So no you are wrong in me labeling his work as anything, up or down mixes or discreet stems. He even agreed that they are a rough ride without speaking if any titles in particular. Skherbeck mixing studio or extraction tools - no never heard them.
You know what, you should leave me alone and not comment when you have no positive things to say to me. You sound bitter and aggravated and it’s not due to my forum presence. You are old and bitter.
I did get a triple bakers dozen Rockband and Guitar Hero assorted sync-ups (songs) from who knows where, and none of them are captivating in a Steven Wilson way. And only the one album I mentioned (Beatles) was quite compelling for a fan mix.
Surely there are some out there that a really “interesting” and “fun” in a most discreet way. Holland may be the author of some of these, it’s not known. In fact it’s not really open for discussion about who did what in the underground world of pirated material. Surely you should know this by now.
Actually, no. It's not a term which reflects quality but rather is one that describes the origin of the material.
I haven’t heard Holland123’s work, so far as labeled as such. So no you are wrong in me labeling his work as anything, up or down mixes or discreet stems. He even agreed that they are a rough ride without speaking of any titles in particular. Skherbeck mixing studio or extraction tools - no never heard them.
You know what, you should leave me alone and not comment when you have no positive things to say to me.
I did get a triple bakers dozen Rockband and Guitar Hero assorted sync-ups (songs) from who knows where, and none of them are captivating in a Steven Wilson way. And only the one album I mentioned (Beatles) was quite compelling for a fan mix.
Surely there are some out there that a really “interesting” and “fun” in a most discreet way. Holland may be the author of some of these, it’s not known. In fact it’s not really open for discussion about "who" did what in the underground world of pirated material. Surely you should know this by now.
I don't disagree with any of that, I was just clarifying the difference.I know, but it is not well known how many or which Rockband elements are extractions and which as multis. That is all we were discussing. And at the same time, mixing something into compelling 4.0 or 5.1 etc. is a real art not everyone has the skill or good taste. H123's work was not in question. But mixing can be very involved, maybe just as much work?
"Better" is a problematic term at best. That said, I'm sure even the most prolific upmixer would jump at the chance to have the multis if they were available. That's not a knock on upmixes, just an acknowledgement of reality.not every professional mix is better than an upmix/non studio mix....that's the problem....
Do discs with “Dolby Atmos” mixes usually have 5.1 mixes as well? Or 7.1 mixes? I have no plans to buy more speakers, but I would purchase music mixed in 7.1 that I could reduce to 5.1 manually using Audacity.
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