RUSH Moving Pictures 40th Anniversary edition (with Richard Chycki Dolby Atmos mix)

[bookofsaturdays]

At this point I’ve decided I’m happy with the original stereo mix. It sounds so good already how can someone improve on that? The drums have a very 3-D sound and while I would love to hear this album in a whole new way it sounds like we’re not going to. 2112 was one of the first MCH releases I bought when getting into the format. Been a massive Rush fan all my life and quite frankly I was appalled at the job they did. Slathered it with way too much reverb and Neil’s drums sounded puny compared to the stereo. Too bad about Hemispheres mix as well, my favourite Rush album

 

[jimfisheye]

Oh wait, I forgot. They already let it burn down!

 

[mrcond]

At this point I’ve decided I’m happy with the original stereo mix. It sounds so good already how can someone improve on that? The drums have a very 3-D sound and while I would love to hear this album in a whole new way it sounds like we’re not going to. 2112 was one of the first MCH releases I bought when getting into the format. Been a massive Rush fan all my life and quite frankly I was appalled at the job they did. Slathered it with way too much reverb and Neil’s drums sounded puny compared to the stereo. Too bad about Hemispheres mix as well, my favourite Rush album ☹

I'm with you. I just listened to 2 different versions of the stereo mix (one from my 40-year old vinyl from the Columbia Record Club, I believe, and the other is the stereo hi-res version on the blu-ray with the first 5.1 mix), and these both beat that first 5.1 and the current Atmos mix streaming on Apple Music by a country mile, as far as a listening experience goes. The stereo is so clean and punchy and virtually 3-D all by itself. No contest for me. Saves me $250 or more.

If they ever release the new version on stand-alone blu-ray or as a download, I will probably buy it, but I'm all set if not.

 

[bookofsaturdays]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone with the capability tried the original stereo through the surround master?

 

[edisonbaggins]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone with the capability tried the original stereo through the surround master?

Of what? MP? Hemi?

 

[bookofsaturdays]

Of what? MP? Hemi?

I was talking about MP but I’d be interested in what Hemispheres sounds like through the SM as well

 

[edisonbaggins]

I was talking about MP but I’d be interested in what Hemispheres sounds like through the SM as well

For Rush, I've mainly run the more layered albums through the SMv3, figuring that would provide the most fun source material. Interesting and pleasing results from both albums, though you wouldn't mistake either for a discrete MC release. "Bigger Stereo" with occasional fun bits featured in the surrounds.
I've toyed with Hemi, P-Waves and maybe MP (can't exactly recall). The fewer layers, the less effective the SMv3 seems to be. Hemi put some synths and some cymbals in the surrounds, for example.

 

[bookofsaturdays]

For Rush, I've mainly run the more layered albums through the SMv3, figuring that would provide the most fun source material. Interesting and pleasing results from both albums, though you wouldn't mistake either for a discrete MC release. "Bigger Stereo" with occasional fun bits featured in the surrounds.
I've toyed with Hemi, P-Waves and maybe MP (can't exactly recall). The fewer layers, the less effective the SMv3 seems to be. Hemi put some synths and some cymbals in the surrounds, for example.

Well can you even call the official MP multichannel mixes discrete? Seems like a no brainer to use the 400 dollars this box set would cost all in and put it towards a SM, which sounds like it can not only give you a decent enough surround experience but can also decode any other 2ch sources you own.

 

[GOS]

You guys are killing me with all this talk. Really, I'm sticking with my purchase...and we'll see how it ends up. I know I own titles that others didn't necessarily like, and I find a lot of enjoyment in. I'm hopeful this is the case, as well.

I just cannot get a box set of Moving Pictures out of my head...and I do need cowbell. lmao

 

[GOS]

And...you will all be wondering...that's for sure. And I will know. (good or bad) hahaha...ahem. Dammit

 

[Perp]

No wonder I got back into spinning vinyl. Reading the last couple of pages has made my head hurt. ‍

 

[LuvMyQuad]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone with the capability tried the original stereo through the surround master?

Well can you even call the official MP multichannel mixes discrete?

My take is, for sure the 5.1 BRD isnt going to win any surround awards, but it does have some discreet moments. I don't get an overwhelming sense of listening to big stereo like I do with other poor mixes. And fidelity wise its pretty good. I prefer it to the stereo tracks through an upmixer. I wish all the Chycki 5.1's were as good as MP. Sadly, they are not. I mean really, what happened with 2112 ????

 

[jimfisheye]

You guys are killing me with all this talk. Really, I'm sticking with my purchase...and we'll see how it ends up. I know I own titles that others didn't necessarily like, and I find a lot of enjoyment in. I'm hopeful this is the case, as well.

I just cannot get a box set of Moving Pictures out of my head...and I do need cowbell. lmao

Any extra content can be an interesting bonus item for a deep dive into a favorite artist's work. Demos, early rough mixes, outtakes... and even poor novelty surround remixes.

Some of us are chasing the surround version of the mix that hits just like the original stereo as opposed to an addendum. That's all. Listening to a remix that mises details in the original can be a little like listening to a cover of the song sometimes.

 

[SyrinxTemple]

I'm only halfway through this thread, but wanted to add a thought. I am old and played football, so I don't know if I'll remember this in a few days...

I recall way way back when Mercury released the Chronicles compilation. I was excited because "A Passage to Bangkok" and "What You're Doing" were left off Exit...Stage Left and All the World's a Stage, respectively and this was the only way to get those songs in digital format. The band had already left for Atlantic Records, and he was asked about this on Rockline (I think). He said, and I am paraphrasing, "We don't have control of that release as it was our previous record company. But, if they are going to release it, we want to help as much as possible."

So, how much of the price point is controlled by Alex, Geddy and Neil's estate is something I am unsure of. Is it strictly Universal Music? I would be willing to bet that it is for the most part. I can't imagine Alex and Geddy saying that $300 sounds right for a bunch of crap that will go in a box in storage for many people. UMe knows it is their most popular album. They also know that the die hards will pay that much for this box.

 

[jimfisheye]

Passage to Bangkok and side two in general is my favorite part of Exit. (Sides 1,3,4 are from a different show.) What release left that off?! Some "war on drugs" related hysteria or something?

The 24 bit master releases of those live albums are complete, FYI.

I remember an "Archives" release that repackaged the first 3 albums.

 

[SyrinxTemple]

Passage to Bangkok and side two in general is my favorite part of Exit. (Sides 1,3,4 are from a different show.) What release left that off?! Some "war on drugs" related hysteria or something?

The original CD releases left those songs off. This was when most CD players could only play 74 minute discs. Now, why they chose that song, I do not know. I love the live version of APtB. More than the studio version. Geddy is playing the rhythm guitar on there.

 

[jimfisheye]

The original CD releases left those songs off. This was when most CD players could only play 74 minute discs. Now, why they chose that song, I do not know. I love the live version of APtB. More than the studio version. Geddy is playing the rhythm guitar on there.

One of Geddy's doubleneck songs live, yes.

I think I remember hearing 1 or 2 of the first CD reissues, turned up my nose and ignored the rest. Must have missed the omission. I've seen other "record club" CD versions do that to double albums though. My favorite track omitted would have definitely gotten my attention!

 

[SyrinxTemple]

I think I remember hearing 1 or 2 of the first CD reissues, turned up my nose and ignored the rest. Must have missed the omission. I've seen other "record club" CD versions do that to double albums though. My favorite track omitted would have definitely gotten my attention!

It was fairly common practice at that time, yes. Don't get me started on the CD release of I Wanna Play for You by Stanley Clarke. Left out songs, parts of songs, etc. And, then put out a disc that was only 60 minutes. I mean WTF?

 

[musicmemorabiliashoppellc]

It was fairly common practice at that time, yes. Don't get me started on the CD release of I Wanna Play for You by Stanley Clarke. Left out songs, parts of songs, etc. And, then put out a disc that was only 60 minutes. I mean WTF?

Sounds like what they used to do with K-Tel Presents 24 Greatest Hits on 1 LP!!!! Yes TRUNCATED versions of all the songs so they could get them all in

 

[jimfisheye]

Bootleg-esque kind of stuff!

I just remembered a high school friend who bought the cheap pre-recorded cassettes. I'm pretty sure these were Rush albums I'm remembering. Bootleg-esque but actually official releases. They didn't want to waste a second of blank tape at the end of one of the sides so they faded a song out and faded it back in on side 2. And the time that it was fading out, flipping the tape, and fading back in was lost. They didn't rewind the source to the dubbing machine a bit before starting side 2. Even most bootleggers weren't this trashy!