RUSH Moving Pictures 40th Anniversary edition (with Richard Chycki Dolby Atmos mix)

[marpow]

Ordered. 317.90 to my door. Someone had to do it and now I don't have to read this thread anymore.

 

[Tom2112]

This title is $10 cheaper on the Rush site. Now, don't everyone trip over each other for that savings. lmao
Anyway, $289.99 with free shipping. Where would it ship from? Do we know?

This title is $10 cheaper on the Rush site. Now, don't everyone trip over each other for that savings. lmao
Anyway, $289.99 with free shipping. Where would it ship from? Do we know?

AFAIK all items ordered through Rush Backstage are shipped from Crozet, Va. My last two orders came from there. 2112 Blue vinyl and Icon Clear vinyl Canadian pressing.

 

[fcormier]

The mastering didn't help. But Snakes & Arrows was also brickwalled (it's actually louder than Clockwork Angels) and still sounds better. It doesn't have the indistinctness and bass cloud of Clockwork Angels. The difference between the two is the mixer.

Terry Brown's production was a part of the Rush sound, their fingerprint... I think Signals is the last one that has it. However, I enjoy later albums - especially Presto and Counterparts - quite a lot.

I guess my point was that however great the vintage mixes are, the new remasters and remixes have to be seen within the context of the newer material. Thankfully the Magee remasters are not affected by this, but they are already the third round of remasters!

To my ears, the brickwalling started at Counterparts and got worse with each album. It's not in the levels or dynamic range that I hear it, but in the saturation of the sound, everything sounds louder. There's distortion in the bass and more and bigger distortion on the guitar.

 

[JulesRules]

To my ears, the brickwalling started at Counterparts and got worse with each album. It's not in the levels or dynamic range that I hear it, but in the saturation of the sound, everything sounds louder. There's distortion in the bass and more and bigger distortion on the guitar.

I think it worked on Counterparts, as that was an era where rock music started to sound meatier again. By Test for Echo, it was already working against the music, although it sounds like a breeze compared to the band's post-millennium albums

 

[musicmemorabiliashoppellc]

To all concerned here is my response to the email I sent to RUSH concerning the new Moving Pictures SDE


email.

Brian McCann (Musictoday) Feb 16, 2022, 11:29 EST We appreciate that you've taken the time to contact us! We do not capture payment when an order is placed, however, we do receive authorization when it is placed. This authorization typically ensures that the card user is who they say they are (billing and CSV checks) but also let's us know that there are funds available for your purchase. These temporary authorization typically "fall off" your account in 3-5 business days (non US banks may take 7-10 business days). We will not capture funds until an order is ready to ship. Even if the order is not successfully placed, you may see the temporary authorization. Reaching out to your financial institution should be able to confirm an authorization vs a capture. As for our return policy, you are more than welcome to return the item upon receipt for 30-days past the date of receipt. We can cover returning shipping with a pre-paid label should the item be defective or damaged in some way upon arrival to you. And finally this should be shipping from our warehouse facility which is located in Crozet, VA just outside of Charlottesville. I do hope all this information helps to answer the questions you had! Please feel free to reach out if you have any further questions or concerns. Sincerely, Brian Customer Service Here is my follow up question Hello Brian Thanks so very much for your excellent communications about the Rush Moving Pictures 40th Anniversary box set was much appreciated Just want to confirm that because Richard Chycki’s past performance on mixing other RUSH multi- channel discs being SUB PAR in quality, would that be reason enough to return the product if it DOES NOT meet my expectations? Your quick and kind response would be much appreciated in this matter. Thanks for your concern in this matter

 

[edisonbaggins]

I returned the Hemispheres 40th Anniversary set to Amazon as defective. Just said the blu-ray didn't perform properly. No further questions asked...

 

[jimfisheye]

Here is my follow up question Hello Brian Thanks so very much for your excellent communications about the Rush Moving Pictures 40th Anniversary box set was much appreciated Just want to confirm that because Richard Chycki’s past performance on mixing other RUSH multi- channel discs being SUB PAR in quality, would that be reason enough to return the product if it DOES NOT meet my expectations? Your quick and kind response would be much appreciated in this matter. Thanks for your concern in this matter

Damn...

But you're really not wrong to just come right out with that!
If more people complained and made returns there wouldn't be so many lazy releases.

 

[GOS]

Udiscover just emailed me a 20% off coupon, and I applied it to Moving Pictures (yes, I fully understand it's still too much money) and got my shipped total for $251.99

 

[GOS]

Thankfully, I've already placed my order...I'm done with the worrying. Well, sort of. lmao

 

[Guy Robinson]

Even if this is the best surround mix ever it's not worth that much and this is one of my all time favorite albums.

 

[GOS]

Wow... looks like the claws are coming out in this thread.

Yeah, you're right. I sunk my claws into Moving Pictures and can't wait to try it out....lol

 

[huggies66]

Unless/Until vendors make it viable to pre-listen to the content, yea, I have every right to return the crap if I don't like it. Would you buy a piece of art sight unseen?

 

[marcb]

Mixing (or mastering) artist is not a job description. Mixing (and mastering) engineer is...

Mixing is art just as much as, say, architecture is art. There are certainly technical/engineering aspects to those jobs, but there are also clearly artist aspects too.

They may not have “artist” in the job title - but neither does musician, actor, producer, director, dancer, etc.

 

[jimfisheye]

You can't just release something substandard compared to already established levels of quality and not expect to be called out on it. If this was some garage band with albums that sounded home recorded and poorly, these remixes might be well received. Considering the sound of the originals though, you can't expect anyone familiar with the recording to accept this any more than a BMW owner would accept a new Yugo to replace it.

It's still subjective getting into the nuance of a mix but setting the bar is setting the bar. You can't just turn back and hope no one notices.

If this is bureaucracy gone wild with big labels running the show for some of these big name bands... Well guys, your homeboys are embarrassing you with these reissues and your name is on all of it. Might want to step in?

 

[edisonbaggins]

Mixing is art just as much as, say, architecture is art. There are certainly technical/engineering aspects to those jobs, but there are also clearly artist aspects too.

They may not have “artist” in the job title - but neither does musician, actor, producer, director, dancer, etc.

I'm glad you brought up the example of architecture.
While there are artistic aspects to designing, say, a building or a bridge, their are engineering aspects too.
If the edifice looks cool, but falls down, the architect has not done their job.
In the case of Hemispheres, Chycki, or someone else in the signal chain, did not do their job.
There is subjectivity in many elements of this discussion. To me, a blu-ray audio needs to play a competently mixed and/or mastered album for me. Since Hemispheres 40th didn't, it got returned.
There are probably few members here who wanted a decent Hemispheres 5.1 more badly. The fact that I have returned exactly one release on grounds of botched engineering should offer some credence to the point that this isn't simply a case of taste, for me.
I have plenty of multichannel albums that I don't like in my collection. I often resell them. But I could not do that, in good conscience, with Hemispheres. Thus the return.
Shalom

 

[marcb]

I'm glad you brought up the example of architecture.
While their are artistic aspects to designing, say, a building or a bridge, their are engineering aspects too.
If the edifice looks cool, but falls down, the architect has not done their job.
In the case of Hemispheres, Chycki, or someone else in the signal chain, did not do their job.
Their is subjectivity in many elements of this discussion. To me, a blu-ray audio needs to play a competently mixed and/or mastered album for me. Since Hemispheres 40th didn't, it got returned.
There are probably few members here who wanted a decent Hemispheres 5.1 more badly. The fact that I have returned exactly one release on grounds of botched engineering should offer some credence to the point that this isn't simply a case of taste, for me.
I have plenty of multichannel albums that I don't like in my collection. I often resell them. But I could not do that, in good conscience, with Hemispheres. Thus the return.
Shalom

Comparing a building falling down to an atmos mix with half of the elements missing is a more apt analogy.

Comparing a building falling down to a mix you don’t like is rationalizing.

 

[jimfisheye]

So it's decided then. We blow up the record company building!

 

[LuvMyQuad]

Yeah, I'll bet we get good mixes after that. They'll be too scared to put out crap then.

 

[edisonbaggins]

Comparing a building falling down to an atmos mix with half of the elements missing is a more apt analogy.

Comparing a building falling down to a mix you don’t like is rationalizing.

We all rationalize every day. Hemispheres 5.1 doesn't do it's job. If you disagree, I'm good with that. Like I've said, I'm 100% good with my decision to return it.

 

[musicmemorabiliashoppellc]

So it's decided then. We blow up the record company building!

TFF!!!!!