RUSH Moving Pictures 40th Anniversary edition (with Richard Chycki Dolby Atmos mix)

[edisonbaggins]

To try to be fair... I honestly think R. Chycki nailed the Atmos mix for The Tragically Hip Road Apples.
I'd love to learn that he's nailed MP too.
If it's the dreck I recently heard on Apple Music, this is not the case. Perhaps the new mixes are yet to be unveiled though...

 

[salsdali]

Perhaps the new mixes are yet to be unveiled though...

Geddy is so tight there is no way he would pay two mixers to make two different atmos mixes

 

[edisonbaggins]

Geddy is so tight there is no way he would pay two mixers to make two different atmos mixes

It's not the band. They sold their rights. It's UMe.
And I didn't say two different mixers...

 

[JimHansonDC]

To try to be fair... I honestly think R. Chycki nailed the Atmos mix for The Tragically Hip Road Apples.
I'd love to learn that he's nailed MP too.
If it's the dreck I recently heard on Apple Music, this is not the case. Perhaps the new mixes are yet to be unveiled though...

I am truly hopeful as @marpow noted the promo for the set says "A fourth bonus disc is a Blu-ray Audio disc with the core album newly mixed from the original multi-tracks in Dolby Atmos (a Rush catalog first!),"

I can't believe the Atmos mixes I heard on the streaming services are newly mixed from the multis. There were no discrete instrument placements anywhere. All of the channels were some version of a frequency isolation split. It would be a waste to use the multis to generate that as it essentially an upmix.

I'm gonna buy this stupid box of crap and if it is actually just more garbage. I will gather some truckers and blockade the label.

 

[salsdali]

It's not the band. They sold their rights. It's UMe.
And I didn't say two different mixers...

so why would UMe pay for two different mixes?

are you saying the apple version is an upmix payed for by UMe and the physical mix will be a real atmos mix from Chycki but released within months of each other. Why would UMe do that? I'm genuinely curious?

 

[leahypc]

I haven't seen anything that definitively indicates a new 5.1 mix. I think it's entirely possible—if not probable—that the 5.1 will be the same Chycki mix from 2011. Only the Atmos is guaranteed to be new (aside from the previously released streaming tracks).

I know what you mean - I was skeptical about it but for now I'm just going with the description on the udiscovermusic site: 'Blu-ray Audio disc presents the first-ever Dolby Atmos & new 5.1 surround album mix'. If that's not true, well you could say it's false advertising.

 

[musicmemorabiliashoppellc]

I know what you mean - I was skeptical about it but for now I'm just going with the description on the udiscovermusic site: 'Blu-ray Audio disc presents the first-ever Dolby Atmos & new 5.1 surround album mix'. If that's not true, well you could say it's false advertising.

True but you and who’s army are going into a courtroom, with EXPENSIVE entertainment lawyers, to take on this corrupt industry? Just sayin’ I’d be part of that but don’t have the BIG$$$

Believe me just about EVERY INDUSTRY you can name in this day and age are

 

[leahypc]

I don't actually think that Rich Chycki is absolutely awful with his surround mixing - I actually don't mind the existing Moving Pictures mixes from 2011 and I do also think Fly By Night is okay enough. I just don't think of him as being particularly good at it, for reasons I can't really articulate particularly well. I would like to check out the Tragically Hip title that he did, though, regardless. It just amazes me that they couldn't at least just try someone else, if Steven W. wasn't available. What about Stephen W. Tayler? Or Jakko, or maybe even Bruce Soord? You get the idea. It seems like they don't see that they're putting themselves at a disadvantage by coming up with this extravagant box with an extravagant price, and just having the same guy running at it again. He - and Universal - must be aware of all the negative criticisms out there, or at least they should be.

 

[edisonbaggins]

so why would UMe pay for two different mixes?

are you saying the apple version is an upmix payed for by UMe and the physical mix will be a real atmos mix from Chycki but released within months of each other. Why would UMe do that? I'm genuinely curious?

Steven Wilson has done 3 remixes of ItCotKC.
I'm not saying anything I'm not saying, lol!

 

[jimfisheye]

Mixing is subjective. There can be nuanced balances going on that are an extension of the musicians playing together. A half db too loud or quiet on a mix element can change things sometimes. You can explain and demonstrate general fidelity to a lot of people but the subjective/creative mix details are another matter. Steve Wilson has really good perception when he listens to an original mix. Also they never said they'd deliver new mixes with such and such details on point, they just said new mixes. No suing.

The original mixes of these albums are really well done. A new mix that's only good or really good isn't good enough. That's what they're working with here. There are a enough albums where this level of remix would be the best upgrade ever over the original.

 

[SyrinxTemple]

My rant from the Rush Facebook post:

Where to begin...first of all, Richard Chycki? That is an immediate red flag. He can't mix surround and now he's going to do Atmos? Please use ANYONE else to do your remixes. I realize Steven Wilson can't do them all, but at least someone competent.

Second, the average fan doesn't give a sh*t about stupid crap like luggage tags. Maybe leave that crap out and sell the Super Deluxe edition for like $300. I know this is more Universal Music crap than anything to do with Geddy and Alex. So, I'll buy the vinyl edition, save the $250 and download the surround version through other means. Not that it will be worth a crap with Chycki doing it. That's right Universal Music, I will be downloading this from my favorite Russian site. Don't like it? Tough shit, you greedy f***ers.

 

[SyrinxTemple]

I hope the MP live tapes fared better than the Permanent Waves ones, used for the previous deluxe set, did...

I know Rush had planned to release a live album after the Permanent Waves tour, changed their mind and decided to record Moving Pictures. My guess, when this was released, was that THIS was the live album they never released. I don't have the box set, so was this mixed by Terry Brown back in the day or is this a current mix of that live material? It sounds a bit like Exit...Stage Left....kind of dry with more of a studio sound. Seems like they were set in the mindset of doing a completely different live recording than All The World's A Stage.

 

[musicmemorabiliashoppellc]

I know Rush had planned to release a live album after the Permanent Waves tour, changed their mind and decided to record Moving Pictures. My guess, when this was released, was that THIS was the live album they never released. I don't have the box set, so was this mixed by Terry Brown back in the day or is this a current mix of that live material? It sounds a bit like Exit...Stage Left....kind of dry with more of a studio sound. Seems like they were set in the mindset of doing a completely different live recording than All The World's A Stage.

My favorite live album of RUSH is ATWAS. I was at Massey Hall for both shows in the 1st balcony….why don’t they remix it in any multi-channel format, are they multi-tracks missing?

 

[SyrinxTemple]

My favorite live album of RUSH is ATWAS. I was at Massey Hall for both shows in the 1st balcony….why don’t they remix it in any multi-channel format, are they multi-tracks missing?

Good question! I love ATWAS, too. Awesome you were at one of those shows. I would love a multichannel remix, also. I know they released one of the songs (Something For Nothing, maybe?) from another night on the 2112 Deluxe. That makes me think the multitracks are there. Of course it was only one song, so I definitely could be wrong.

 

[musicmemorabiliashoppellc]

Good question! I love ATWAS, too. Awesome you were at one of those shows. I would love a multichannel remix, also. I know they released one of the songs (Something For Nothing, maybe?) from another night on the 2112 Deluxe. That makes me think the multitracks are there. Of course it was only one song, so I definitely could be wrong.

Yes I have that set as well and there is at least one song on the 3disc set? So I wonder as well if someone is going to pull a rabbit from a hat

 

[rugene]

As much as I love this band, I won't pay 300$ for some new packaging of their classic album with a disappointing 5.1 mixe and live material that we will hear in streaming somewhere. I am sure some fans will be craving for the new photos in the hardcover book.

 

[LuvMyQuad]

Thanks, but is there only one version of the original set? Is there a version with DVD audio and one version with blu-ray? Or are they the same thing?

I didn't see where anyone answered you. It was released as both DVDA and BluRay at the same time. The mix is the same, just the format is different. The formats are both lossless. Its generally easier to find a player that will play the BlueRay, as DVDA is a dead format now.

 

[JulesRules]

The Rush stereo mixes are all on point and much more accomplished than average.

Vapor Trails and Clockwork Angels would like to have a word with you. Ironically the only good sounding Rush album after the reunion, Snakes & Arrows, was mixed by Richard Chycki [I don't know anything about the 5.1, though], and his single mixes of "Caravan" and "BU2B" also sounded far better than the later album versions.

...the super limited Tears for Fears atmos disc that no one can buy of a new album that probably, let’s be real, sucks...

If Steven thinks it's as good as any of their work, that's an indication that it won't suck...

 

[bookofsaturdays]

What a shame. I’d pay good money for a box set of SW remixes of the entire Rush catalog, live albums included. They could even split them up like they did with the Sector boxes. My question is why didn’t they give Steven (or someone close to his level of mixing genius) a chance at this record? They did that with AFtK, Chycki did the first mix to less than stellar results and then we got a SW remix, albeit locked in a box set (still haven’t heard that mix ). Just further proof that these major labels, Universal, Warners etc. aren’t listening to what the fans are saying. As a Canadian I think this whole thing is just an insult to the legacy of this monumental album.

 

[JediJoker]

Vapor Trails and Clockwork Angels would like to have a word with you.

I think both got hit with the ugly stick in mastering more than mixing.