Wow Bengals came up #32. Vikings #1
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The Bengals were #26 and the Commanders were #32. Miami came in at #2 and The Patriots came in at #29. Interestingly, Belichick got a rating of B-, which may tell us something about the low expectations that players have of their head coach. Their job, after all, is to win, and being liked by the players can be seen as a detriment.
How could the Commanders end up with so many grades of F- ? Do you know of anyone in your life who has ever gotten a grade lower than an F?
You are right. I misread it. It makes more sense .
F- = a little less than complete failure.
I read an article, which I can't find anymore unfortunately, absolutely blasting Belichick as a GM. It stated that the Patriots would have won 11 to 12 Super Bowls had he been a half-decent GM.
I'll make that writer a trade. Let's take those 20 years of Patriots' success, including 9 trips to the SB and 6 victories, and give it to the Jets instead. I would have been ecstatic with the 'shitty' GM. Not to mention that two of the three losses would have been to my second favorite team, the Giants.
Part of his philosophy was to rid the team of any "star" once they started to show signs of decline, especially if they were coming into a pay day. I wish the Bills did more of that. Most teams wait too long and keep too many aging veterans past their prime.
Chiefs plan $800M renovation to Arrowhead Stadium after 2026 World Cup
Even though a roof conceivably could help Kansas City play host to the Super Bowl, Hunt said Wednesday it was never seriously considered for this round of renovations — and in fact, the team prefers to play outdoors in the elements."We certainly feel like it's a competitive advantage for us," he said.
https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-plan-800m-renovation-to-arrowhead-stadium-after-2026-world-cup
Go Bills!
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I don't know what to make of this whole thing. Never even heard about this till now.
It's put together by the NFLPA so you know where they are coming from.
The players have never had it so good! Over paid, they over eat & are way over valued! Wait till they leave football for the real world. Big wake-up call coming... No tears shed here so I'd tell 'em to quit Whining! This all means nothing!
...oh, & Green Bay was rated 3rd so that's good
It's put together by the NFLPA so you know where they are coming from.
The players have never had it so good! Over paid, they over eat & are way over valued! Wait till they leave football for the real world. Big wake-up call coming... No tears shed here so I'd tell 'em to quit Whining! This all means nothing!
...oh, & Green Bay was rated 3rd so that's good
Ya know, it's only the teams that are open air that say that. Has there ever been a team with a dome that has talked about losing a competitive advantage or expressed a desire to go back to open air?
Yep, it's a way to avoid admitting that they cheaped out.
You could not pay me enough to have my brains beat in every week like those lunatics. Brady lasted as long as he did because he knew how to duck and cover. LOLI don't know what to make of this whole thing. Never even heard about this till now.
It's put together by the NFLPA so you know where they are coming from.
The players have never had it so good! Over paid, they over eat & are way over valued! Wait till they leave football for the real world. Big wake-up call coming... No tears shed here so I'd tell 'em to quit Whining! This all means nothing!
...oh, & Green Bay was rated 3rd so that's good
When you stop and realize that eloquent TV announcers like Frank Gifford and Irv Cross had CTE, well, is there anything else left to say?
Imbobman
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If you got the tax payers to Ante up hundreds of millions$ for some stadium roof, would you then want to be the one to say...' It was better without the d*** thing!' ...No, they wouldn't be that honest if that was the case!
FWIW....13 of the last 14 SB winners have been outdoor teams. Seems like some sort of competitive edge..
10 teams have retractable/ fixed roof stadiums, 22 teams are open air. I'd hate the idea of GB ever getting a roof. IMHO, it ruins some of the ambiance & beauty of the game.
...also, for me the 'fly over' that's often done after the national anthem is sort of a joke @ domed Stadiums. No one can directly see it so it's shown via cameras on the big screen!
Wow, sort of a VR thing!
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I know what you mean. The Jets play in an outdoor stadium and have been to 11 Super Bowls in the last 54 years......Oh wait, those are the guys up I-95.
With the Jets record, it would have been better for fans to lose in comfort under a dome than to freeze in the ice bowl of Shea / Met Life.
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a January game at Lambeau is a thing of beauty. It is classic old school football.
Imbobman
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The Jets are an anomaly and they're bringing down the average big time. For them it probably wouldn't matter where they played! If you are going to stink up the place, then it's best to do that outdoors.....
The team up I-95, I'm assuming it's NE?
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GREEN BAY, Wis. – The Detroit Lions ran away with the NFC North for their first division championship since 1993. They are favored to repeat, but the Green Bay Packers are on their heels in the way-too-early odds.
According to FanDuel Sportsbook, the Lions are +145 to win the NFC North. The Packers aren’t far behind at +230. The Minnesota Vikings and Chicago Bears, both of whom have quarterback questions, are further back at +420 and +440, respectively.
By implied probability, the Lions have a 40.8 percent to win the division and the Packers are at 30.3 percent.
The Lions finished with a 12-5 record in 2023, three games better than runner-up Green Bay. Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst isn’t worried about the standings, though.
“We’ve never hung banners for division championships, so it’s never been about that. It’s a nice starting point but I think we’re always looking for bigger things,” he said at the Scouting Combine.
One thing that should help the Packers gain ground is owning five picks in the first three rounds of the draft, with two apiece in the second and third rounds. If Gutekunst can replicate last year’s success, when he snared Jayden Reed, Luke Musgrave and Tucker Kraft with those Day 2 picks, he’ll be able to plug many of the remaining holes on the roster.
On the other hand, the Lions have a lot more money to make moves in free agency. According to updated figures from OverTheCap.com, the Packers are about $14.2 million under the cap. They’re in a much better position than last year, but that’s still well behind the Lions’ $52.5 million. With that additional $38 million, the Lions can sign at least three more impact payers than the Packers.ams will enter 2024 with familiar faces on their rosters. The Packers really don’t have any free agents they believe they must re-sign. However, while Green Bay has a new defensive coordinator with Jeff Hafley replacing Joe Barry, the Lions’ trio of offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn and special teams coordinator Dave Fipp are back.
“The continuity of the staff, the core of the staff, is no different than the core of the players who have been together now since 2021,” Lions coach Dan Campbell said at the Combine. “To me, that’s very important to have. This is the second year in a row I didn’t think I’d have them back between (Johnson) and AG and some of the other coaches. We’re fortunate.
“There’s so many things … you can skip over these steps that have already been done for a three-year period. You’re just so much more efficient and much better. And it happens with the players, too. They know what we expect. You’re out of 101; we’re in the 401.”
The only banner Gutekunst cares about is winning a 14th NFL championship. For the Super Bowl, the Packers opened at +2500 but have moved to +2200. The Lions are +1300, tied with Dallas for the fifth-shortest odds.
For all the favorites, they are set at quarterback. The Packers are bullish on Jordan Love, for obvious reasons, and the Lions believe Jared Goff can get them over the hump after losing to the 49ers in the NFC Championship Game.
“I’ve seen a quarterback who’s gotten better and better and better and has grown every year, and I would say who’s gotten better under pressure every year and really (has) just risen to the challenge,” Campbell said. “And he’s more and more confident, he’s more comfortable.
“I’ve said this before: To me, Jared Goff is a winning quarterback. You can win in this league with that guy, and you can’t say that for a lot of guys. So, I’m glad that he’s here. I’m glad he’s ours.”
According to FanDuel Sportsbook, the Lions are +145 to win the NFC North. The Packers aren’t far behind at +230. The Minnesota Vikings and Chicago Bears, both of whom have quarterback questions, are further back at +420 and +440, respectively.
By implied probability, the Lions have a 40.8 percent to win the division and the Packers are at 30.3 percent.
The Lions finished with a 12-5 record in 2023, three games better than runner-up Green Bay. Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst isn’t worried about the standings, though.
“We’ve never hung banners for division championships, so it’s never been about that. It’s a nice starting point but I think we’re always looking for bigger things,” he said at the Scouting Combine.
One thing that should help the Packers gain ground is owning five picks in the first three rounds of the draft, with two apiece in the second and third rounds. If Gutekunst can replicate last year’s success, when he snared Jayden Reed, Luke Musgrave and Tucker Kraft with those Day 2 picks, he’ll be able to plug many of the remaining holes on the roster.
On the other hand, the Lions have a lot more money to make moves in free agency. According to updated figures from OverTheCap.com, the Packers are about $14.2 million under the cap. They’re in a much better position than last year, but that’s still well behind the Lions’ $52.5 million. With that additional $38 million, the Lions can sign at least three more impact payers than the Packers.ams will enter 2024 with familiar faces on their rosters. The Packers really don’t have any free agents they believe they must re-sign. However, while Green Bay has a new defensive coordinator with Jeff Hafley replacing Joe Barry, the Lions’ trio of offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn and special teams coordinator Dave Fipp are back.
“The continuity of the staff, the core of the staff, is no different than the core of the players who have been together now since 2021,” Lions coach Dan Campbell said at the Combine. “To me, that’s very important to have. This is the second year in a row I didn’t think I’d have them back between (Johnson) and AG and some of the other coaches. We’re fortunate.
“There’s so many things … you can skip over these steps that have already been done for a three-year period. You’re just so much more efficient and much better. And it happens with the players, too. They know what we expect. You’re out of 101; we’re in the 401.”
The only banner Gutekunst cares about is winning a 14th NFL championship. For the Super Bowl, the Packers opened at +2500 but have moved to +2200. The Lions are +1300, tied with Dallas for the fifth-shortest odds.
For all the favorites, they are set at quarterback. The Packers are bullish on Jordan Love, for obvious reasons, and the Lions believe Jared Goff can get them over the hump after losing to the 49ers in the NFC Championship Game.
“I’ve seen a quarterback who’s gotten better and better and better and has grown every year, and I would say who’s gotten better under pressure every year and really (has) just risen to the challenge,” Campbell said. “And he’s more and more confident, he’s more comfortable.
“I’ve said this before: To me, Jared Goff is a winning quarterback. You can win in this league with that guy, and you can’t say that for a lot of guys. So, I’m glad that he’s here. I’m glad he’s ours.”
Amen? 
TDLDR.GREEN BAY, Wis. – The Detroit Lions ran away with the NFC North for their first division championship since 1993. They are favored to repeat, but the Green Bay Packers are on their heels in the way-too-early odds.
According to FanDuel Sportsbook, the Lions are +145 to win the NFC North. The Packers aren’t far behind at +230. The Minnesota Vikings and Chicago Bears, both of whom have quarterback questions, are further back at +420 and +440, respectively.
By implied probability, the Lions have a 40.8 percent to win the division and the Packers are at 30.3 percent.
The Lions finished with a 12-5 record in 2023, three games better than runner-up Green Bay. Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst isn’t worried about the standings, though.
“We’ve never hung banners for division championships, so it’s never been about that. It’s a nice starting point but I think we’re always looking for bigger things,” he said at the Scouting Combine.
One thing that should help the Packers gain ground is owning five picks in the first three rounds of the draft, with two apiece in the second and third rounds. If Gutekunst can replicate last year’s success, when he snared Jayden Reed, Luke Musgrave and Tucker Kraft with those Day 2 picks, he’ll be able to plug many of the remaining holes on the roster.
On the other hand, the Lions have a lot more money to make moves in free agency. According to updated figures from OverTheCap.com, the Packers are about $14.2 million under the cap. They’re in a much better position than last year, but that’s still well behind the Lions’ $52.5 million. With that additional $38 million, the Lions can sign at least three more impact payers than the Packers.ams will enter 2024 with familiar faces on their rosters. The Packers really don’t have any free agents they believe they must re-sign. However, while Green Bay has a new defensive coordinator with Jeff Hafley replacing Joe Barry, the Lions’ trio of offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn and special teams coordinator Dave Fipp are back.
“The continuity of the staff, the core of the staff, is no different than the core of the players who have been together now since 2021,” Lions coach Dan Campbell said at the Combine. “To me, that’s very important to have. This is the second year in a row I didn’t think I’d have them back between (Johnson) and AG and some of the other coaches. We’re fortunate.
“There’s so many things … you can skip over these steps that have already been done for a three-year period. You’re just so much more efficient and much better. And it happens with the players, too. They know what we expect. You’re out of 101; we’re in the 401.”
The only banner Gutekunst cares about is winning a 14th NFL championship. For the Super Bowl, the Packers opened at +2500 but have moved to +2200. The Lions are +1300, tied with Dallas for the fifth-shortest odds.
For all the favorites, they are set at quarterback. The Packers are bullish on Jordan Love, for obvious reasons, and the Lions believe Jared Goff can get them over the hump after losing to the 49ers in the NFC Championship Game.
“I’ve seen a quarterback who’s gotten better and better and better and has grown every year, and I would say who’s gotten better under pressure every year and really (has) just risen to the challenge,” Campbell said. “And he’s more and more confident, he’s more comfortable.
“I’ve said this before: To me, Jared Goff is a winning quarterback. You can win in this league with that guy, and you can’t say that for a lot of guys. So, I’m glad that he’s here. I’m glad he’s ours.”
But I tried.
Imbobman
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Oh Ricky, you have got to be lovin' this!GREEN BAY, Wis. – The Detroit Lions ran away with the NFC North for their first division championship since 1993. They are favored to repeat, but the Green Bay Packers are on their heels in the way-too-early odds.
According to FanDuel Sportsbook, the Lions are +145 to win the NFC North. The Packers aren’t far behind at +230. The Minnesota Vikings and Chicago Bears, both of whom have quarterback questions, are further back at +420 and +440, respectively.
By implied probability, the Lions have a 40.8 percent to win the division and the Packers are at 30.3 percent.
The Lions finished with a 12-5 record in 2023, three games better than runner-up Green Bay. Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst isn’t worried about the standings, though.
“We’ve never hung banners for division championships, so it’s never been about that. It’s a nice starting point but I think we’re always looking for bigger things,” he said at the Scouting Combine.
One thing that should help the Packers gain ground is owning five picks in the first three rounds of the draft, with two apiece in the second and third rounds. If Gutekunst can replicate last year’s success, when he snared Jayden Reed, Luke Musgrave and Tucker Kraft with those Day 2 picks, he’ll be able to plug many of the remaining holes on the roster.
On the other hand, the Lions have a lot more money to make moves in free agency. According to updated figures from OverTheCap.com, the Packers are about $14.2 million under the cap. They’re in a much better position than last year, but that’s still well behind the Lions’ $52.5 million. With that additional $38 million, the Lions can sign at least three more impact payers than the Packers.ams will enter 2024 with familiar faces on their rosters. The Packers really don’t have any free agents they believe they must re-sign. However, while Green Bay has a new defensive coordinator with Jeff Hafley replacing Joe Barry, the Lions’ trio of offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn and special teams coordinator Dave Fipp are back.
“The continuity of the staff, the core of the staff, is no different than the core of the players who have been together now since 2021,” Lions coach Dan Campbell said at the Combine. “To me, that’s very important to have. This is the second year in a row I didn’t think I’d have them back between (Johnson) and AG and some of the other coaches. We’re fortunate.
“There’s so many things … you can skip over these steps that have already been done for a three-year period. You’re just so much more efficient and much better. And it happens with the players, too. They know what we expect. You’re out of 101; we’re in the 401.”
The only banner Gutekunst cares about is winning a 14th NFL championship. For the Super Bowl, the Packers opened at +2500 but have moved to +2200. The Lions are +1300, tied with Dallas for the fifth-shortest odds.
For all the favorites, they are set at quarterback. The Packers are bullish on Jordan Love, for obvious reasons, and the Lions believe Jared Goff can get them over the hump after losing to the 49ers in the NFC Championship Game.
“I’ve seen a quarterback who’s gotten better and better and better and has grown every year, and I would say who’s gotten better under pressure every year and really (has) just risen to the challenge,” Campbell said. “And he’s more and more confident, he’s more comfortable.
“I’ve said this before: To me, Jared Goff is a winning quarterback. You can win in this league with that guy, and you can’t say that for a lot of guys. So, I’m glad that he’s here. I’m glad he’s ours.”
My opinion, the Lions should be favored, they are a better team... but you never know what could happen.
Say Goff goes down or some other key player? I hope not but if so then 'Thank you very much'!
GB maybe then could regain the NFC North top spot!
NOT REALLY! The Packers, last year, may well have just been a fluke. A good friend of mine already has them in the SB next year.
...that's fantasy world stuff to me! But fun to talk about!
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